If you can't keep up security, shoot your inmates

[dIZZyBlIZZy]

CNN report

More than 150 inmates were involved in a riot in the prison's maximum-security yard Wednesday afternoon, said officials with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

Eleven inmates were taken to Sacramento area hospitals, and nine of them were treated and released, officials said. Two remained hospitalized in stable condition Thursday: one has a gunshot wound to the leg and the other has facial injuries and a possible broken shoulder not related to gunshots, authorities said.

I gotta wonder a lot of things:

1. Were the inmates maxed out (not all inmates in a max facility are classified maximum security)?
2. If they were, why would there be 150 at the same outdoor rec yard?
3. How did the use of nonlethal rounds fail?
4. Why was CS gas not used?
5. With a riot that large, why would you go to OC spray over CS?
6. If this is STG related (very possible), will you hide it like California always does (still can't admit California has a gang problem with their prisons)?
7. If deadly force was legitimately authorized, then why do you shoot seven shots at a 150 inmate riot and only hit one?

Is it just me, or is there something fishy about this. It seems like a major breach combined with a security command that has no concept of reestablishing control.

 

[Bugfatty300]

If deadly force was legitimately authorized, then why do you shoot seven shots at a 150 inmate riot and only hit one?

Just a guess but it sounds like they were mostly warning shots. The shot that struck an inmates leg could have been intentional or the officer just didn't know what he was doing.

 

[amadeus]

You left out a question: who the hell are those people and why are they in prison?

 

[Silurian]

From Sacramento Bee

Inmates stabbed each other during the fight, and some employees suffered minor injuries as they intervened. The outbreak was in a maximum security area of the California State Prison, Sacramento.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/07/4107220/guards-open-fire-during-calif.html#ixzz1g2DdICCD

If the inmates are fighting each other with knives and it cannot be stopped otherwise then shooting near them is legitimate.

What should be asked is why this riot happened after the earlier riot in May.

Unfortunately they cannot bring in Johnny Cash any more.

 

[dIZZyBlIZZy]

Just a guess but it sounds like they were mostly warning shots. The shot that struck an inmates leg could have been intentional or the officer just didn't know what he was doing.

If deadly force is ordered you do not fire warning shots, if not, you do not fire any shots. Wonder how they set up weapons qualifications.

You left out a question: who the hell are those people and why are they in prison?

We probably already know why in general.

From Sacramento Bee



http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/07/4107220/guards-open-fire-during-calif.html#ixzz1g2DdICCD

Thanks for the extra info.

If the inmates are fighting each other with knives and it cannot be stopped otherwise then shooting near them is legitimate.

Shoot one can of CS into the rec yard and they will no longer be fighting and all those shanks will be on the ground out of their hands.

What should be asked is why this riot happened after the earlier riot in May.

Which goes into why California DoC does not want to release STG information on inmates.

Unfortunately they cannot bring in Johnny Cash any more.

ABC said that it wasn't the same facility.

 

[Bugfatty300]

If deadly force is ordered you do not fire warning shots, if not, you do not fire any shots. Wonder how they set up weapons qualifications.

Correct but in prisons warning shots are not unheard of.

For instance last week:

Oregon State Penitentiary staff responded to inmate fights unfolding in various parts of the institution's yard with four warning shots and pepper spray this afternoon at about 1:30 p.m, according to officers.

Plus the latest articles on this incident in the OP specifically mention warning shots in conjunction with the shots that hit inmates.

 

[Ayn Rand]

Wow, guards had a great opportunity and they blew it

Spoiler :

 

[Rashiminos]

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"nine of them"
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"Eleven inmates"

Excuse the brevity, but you will either get this, or you won't. Some of those things served a purpose, and some did not, and therein the answers to the questions might be found.

 

[Silurian]

ABC said that it wasn't the same facility.

Its next door to Folsom, not that that is totally relevent.