I'm not a scientist man!

[Ziggy Stardust]

Just some random obfuscation. In your vision a very small part of it is actually in focus (about a thumbnail at arm's length), to deal with this your eyes are constantly shifting and building up a picture which creates your perception. But when you're looking at one part of the picture, the other parts are static and do not react on visual input until that part is 'refreshed'.

More disturbingly, only 10% of your visual perception is caused by actual photons hitting your receptors, which means your brain fills in the remaining 90% with assumptions based on your experiences.

 

[Borachio]

Yes. I think that's true.

But there's also some kind of response for movement, I believe. Triggering a more immediate refresh for the part affected. Dunno really.

Peripheral vision is interesting.

 

[Crezth]

That's easy. Everything we see is a projection of reality as it happens on the edge of our universe. Nothing we do influences this, we don't even actually 'do' anything, since as a part of the observable reality we are also projections of our real selves in whichever way they (we) exist.

Nah, reality is nothing but giant tortoises.

 

[peter grimes]

Nah, reality is nothing but giant tortoises.

But what are those tortoises standing on, smart guy?

For that matter, were the tortoises hatched from eggs? Where did the eggs come from?

 

[Borachio]

Tortoises all the way down.

Tortoises have always been. Egg or no egg.

 

[Global Skeptic]

Tortoises all the way down.

Tortoises have always been. Egg or no egg.

In philosophy it is metaphysics or rather meta-cognition all the way down.

 

[Antilogic]

Nope, that's just your personal demons and an abused childhood coming out. Real Philosophy (TM) is comprised exclusively of infinite stacks of tortoises.

 

[Borachio]

Aren't there some elephants in the mix? I forget.

 

[Global Skeptic]

Nope, that's just your personal demons and an abused childhood coming out. Real Philosophy (TM) is comprised exclusively of infinite stacks of tortoises.

Nice Even if I am wrong in some cases(which I undoubtedly am), it doesn't follow I am all the time. As for your connection between me as a person and me as a philosopher, I would like to here more. I might actually learn something and that would be nice.

 

[Antilogic]

I can't say for certain, but I can confirm while the stacks of turtles are infinite, there are only 4 such stacks. One is named after each Ninja Turtle.

 

[Borachio]

I thought they were all named A'Tuin.

 

[Leoreth]

And here I thought that the planes are infinite, and at the center of the planes there is an infinitely tall pillar, and on top of the pillar stands the city of Sigil.

 

[Borachio]

Oooh. How can anything be at the top of an infinitely tall pillar?

 

[El_Machinae]

The same way we can be at the bottom of an infinitely long timeline.

 

[Borachio]

I thought we were at an indeterminate position on an infinite timeline.

 

[El_Machinae]

No, we're 13.7 billion years after the beginning of the timeline.

 

[Antilogic]

Depends on where the "origin" is. It's all arbitrary any way.

 

[Borachio]

No, we're 13.7 billion years after the beginning of the timeline.

Oh come now. That's not what they say, unless I'm sorely mistaken. They say it has no meaning to talk about before the Big Bang because such a time is unobservable. Not that time began then. There's simply no way to know.

 

[kochman]

Observable time is a human construct.

 

[Borachio]

So no human observer = no time? or no observable time?

I'm not sure what this means, or what the implications are.