Improving my map of Greece
- Thread starter MaisseArsouye
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Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Most of the Chalcidice though was eventually carved up by Spartan and Athenian interests after the decline of Chalcis and Eritrea though. Then the Chalcidice came under control of Olynthia, before the League was founded. Besides, many Greek states founded colonies everywhere.
You could combine Ephesus and Miletus into Ionia, and then leave the last slot open for Achaea, Phokis, or the Amphiktiony.
I also reckon you should replace Achaean Phthiotis with Thessaly.
You could combine Ephesus and Miletus into Ionia, and then leave the last slot open for Achaea, Phokis, or the Amphiktiony.
I also reckon you should replace Achaean Phthiotis with Thessaly.
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
I think I will let Chalcidice as a separated civ. I know it's not really acurate, but it will be better for the gameplay.
That would make only 6 civs in Turkey and 7 in Peloponnese. And Thebe, Athinaï and Aetolia are close too. I don't know if the game would still be balanced...
What would be its leader, traits and capital city ? Would it be Larissa ? I would really like to have Achilles in
I agree with your points, we can merge little civs into larger ones. But a balanced gameplay is essential to me. I don't want to have every civs located in a single area.
Mongoloid Cow said:
That would make only 6 civs in Turkey and 7 in Peloponnese. And Thebe, Athinaï and Aetolia are close too. I don't know if the game would still be balanced...
Mongoloid Cow said:
What would be its leader, traits and capital city ? Would it be Larissa ? I would really like to have Achilles in
I agree with your points, we can merge little civs into larger ones. But a balanced gameplay is essential to me. I don't want to have every civs located in a single area.
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
True. But you could always give the crowded regions more resources and stuff OK, maybe not.
As for the whole Thessaly thing, it is just Achaean Phthiotis included whilst the other provinces aren't isn't logical IMO. You could always make Achilles an MGL
OK, maybe not. As for the whole Thessaly thing, it is just Achaean Phthiotis included whilst the other provinces aren't isn't logical IMO. You could always make Achilles an MGL
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
varwnos said:
δεν ειναι ενα "μοδ", this is not really a mod. You and I know how difficult it is to make a mod
No, I didn't put Doris in? Should I ?
Please, people, tell me what would be your selection of 31 civs.
It was just a joke Doris was a very small nation in south-central Greece.However you could have Argos in, i dont remember if it was in your list. You have Mycenae, but perhaps you should replace them with Argos, since Mycenae had other cities which later became independent and powerfull (i think Athens was one of them as well). But i dont insist
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
Both Mycenai and Argos are in.
Here's my second proposal. Actually, I don't think I will change anything to this list, except for those in italic : Thessalia, Phthia and Iolcos. I want 3 civs between Thebes and Chalkidike, but I still hesitate. The rest of the map seems balanced to me.
northern Greece : 5
Illyria, Thrakia, Makedonia, Chersonesos, Chalkidike
central Greece : 7
Athinaï, Thebes, Epirus, Aetolia, Thessalia, Phthia, Iolcos
Peloponnese : 6
Mycenai, Sparta, Argos, Corynth, Elis, Messenia
Turkey : 7
Troy, Phrigia, Lydia, Bithynia, Ionia, Eolia, Caria
islands : 6
Ithika, Kerkira, Kriti, Euboea, Dodecanision ( Samos+Rhodes ), Kyklades
@Varwnos : παρακαλω, could you give me the correct greek names ?
Here's my second proposal. Actually, I don't think I will change anything to this list, except for those in italic : Thessalia, Phthia and Iolcos. I want 3 civs between Thebes and Chalkidike, but I still hesitate. The rest of the map seems balanced to me.
northern Greece : 5
Illyria, Thrakia, Makedonia, Chersonesos, Chalkidike
central Greece : 7
Athinaï, Thebes, Epirus, Aetolia, Thessalia, Phthia, Iolcos
Peloponnese : 6
Mycenai, Sparta, Argos, Corynth, Elis, Messenia
Turkey : 7
Troy, Phrigia, Lydia, Bithynia, Ionia, Eolia, Caria
islands : 6
Ithika, Kerkira, Kriti, Euboea, Dodecanision ( Samos+Rhodes ), Kyklades
@Varwnos : παρακαλω, could you give me the correct greek names ?
you could change some of those to the following:
Thevai (since you have Athinai)
Epeiros (Epirus)
Sparte (it sounds strange, since a is dorian, but i think it was called Sparte and not Sparta, at least we always say Sparte and not once Sparta)
Korinthos (Corinth)
Troia (Troy)
Aiolia (Eolia)
Karia (Karia)
Ithake (Ithaka)
Krete (better this way i think, i use E to replace Heta, and Iota for I)
Euboia (Euboea)
Dodekanesa (Dodecanese) But Samos is, i think, in the Cyclades. I would suggest that Rhodos is in some league with the asia minor civs, and you have Samos, Melos, Delos and some other in the cycladic civ. Rodos had 3 cities, but i dont know if it can be a very important civ in your game.
A possible replacement would be Megara. Infact Megara are very important, and were a main power in the age of colonisation.
Thevai (since you have Athinai)
Epeiros (Epirus)
Sparte (it sounds strange, since a is dorian, but i think it was called Sparte and not Sparta, at least we always say Sparte and not once Sparta)
Korinthos (Corinth)
Troia (Troy)
Aiolia (Eolia)
Karia (Karia)
Ithake (Ithaka)
Krete (better this way i think, i use E to replace Heta, and Iota for I)
Euboia (Euboea)
Dodekanesa (Dodecanese) But Samos is, i think, in the Cyclades. I would suggest that Rhodos is in some league with the asia minor civs, and you have Samos, Melos, Delos and some other in the cycladic civ. Rodos had 3 cities, but i dont know if it can be a very important civ in your game.
A possible replacement would be Megara. Infact Megara are very important, and were a main power in the age of colonisation.
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
It's was a very difficult choice ! It breaks my heart, but I have to let some very good ideas 
Megara, Samos, Achaea, Akarnania, Mytileni, Lycia,... I know I didn't keep the most important, but I didn't want to have a crowded Peloponnese.
The final civ list is in post#1.
Now, I need complete informations about those civs :
leader
traits ( + often builds... )
favourite / shunned gov.
military and gret leaders
scientific leaders
city list
We may also work on "rejected" civs. Maybe someone could need it. But please give priority to the 31 civs of the list.
Megara, Samos, Achaea, Akarnania, Mytileni, Lycia,... I know I didn't keep the most important, but I didn't want to have a crowded Peloponnese. The final civ list is in post#1.
Now, I need complete informations about those civs :
leader
traits ( + often builds... )
favourite / shunned gov.
military and gret leaders
scientific leaders
city list
We may also work on "rejected" civs. Maybe someone could need it. But please give priority to the 31 civs of the list.
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Here's some city lists for you. No doubt Varwnos will improve them, but it is just a start...
Locria (I know you decided not to include it, its's just I'm partial towards it)
Opus
Amphissa
Larymna
Thronium
Antikyra
Naupactus
Thermopylae*
Oeantheu
Cnemides
Halae
Eupalium
Daphnus
Alope
Myonia
Erythrae
Tritaea
Phaestus
Macynia
Oeneon
Cynus
Chalaman
Seanphea
* Thermopylae ws the border between Epicnemidian Locria and Malis.
Thebes / Boeotia
Thebes
Orchomenos
Plataea
Haliartus
Coponea
Tanagra
Delium
Leuctra
Thespiae
Chaeronia
Anthedon
Lebadea
Copan
Creusis
Oenophyta
Thisbae
Siphae
Acraephia
Chalia
Glisas
Aspledon
Eleon
Audis
Chorsiae
Hyle
Mycalessus
Thessaly (Exclusive of Magnesia, Malis and Achaean Phthiotis)
Larissa
Crannon
Mylae
Ithome
Aegimum
Phaloria
Trikka
Olooson
Gomphi
Scotussa
Pharsalus
Pythium
Cierium
Euhydrium
Atrax
Gyrton
Gonnus
Malloea
Cyretae
Phalanna
Phaeca
Pireseae
Argura
Metropolis
Eritrium
Sycurium
Euryhydrium
Proerna
Pharcalon
Petinaeum
Mopsium
Ericinium
Axorus
Doliche
Argura
Lapathus
Phthia (Exclusive of lands later given to Malis; Inclusive of all Achaean Phthiotis)
Phthia
Pherae
Pegasae
Pletium
Demetrias
Thaunmaei
Halus
Pteleum
Melitaea
Phylace
Antron
Alope
Pyrasus
Xyniae
Itanus
Aetolia
Calydon
Pleuron
Eleaus
Pylene
Pamphia
Thestium
Agrinion
Aegitium
Callium
Oechalia
Aperantia
Trichonium
Cohope
Ithoria
Chalcidice
Olynthia
Potidaea
Stagira
Acanthus
Stratonicea
Apollonia Chalcidice
Singus
Mende
Sane
Scione
Torone
Cleonae
Dium
Charadrus
Aenea
Sermyle
Cassandreia
Acrothoi
Thyssus
Theraminus
Spartalus
Scolus
Mecyberna
Gigonus
Scapsa
Aphytas
Gallepsus
Sarte
Olophyxus
Caprus
Corinth
Corinth
Lechthaeum
Peraea
Oenoe
Schoenus
Sidus
Crommyon
Senechreae
Solygea
Tenea
Mycenae
Mycenae
Tyrins
Medea
Pylos
Ah, well. There's a start...
Locria (I know you decided not to include it, its's just I'm partial towards it
)Opus
Amphissa
Larymna
Thronium
Antikyra
Naupactus
Thermopylae*
Oeantheu
Cnemides
Halae
Eupalium
Daphnus
Alope
Myonia
Erythrae
Tritaea
Phaestus
Macynia
Oeneon
Cynus
Chalaman
Seanphea
* Thermopylae ws the border between Epicnemidian Locria and Malis.
Thebes / Boeotia
Thebes
Orchomenos
Plataea
Haliartus
Coponea
Tanagra
Delium
Leuctra
Thespiae
Chaeronia
Anthedon
Lebadea
Copan
Creusis
Oenophyta
Thisbae
Siphae
Acraephia
Chalia
Glisas
Aspledon
Eleon
Audis
Chorsiae
Hyle
Mycalessus
Thessaly (Exclusive of Magnesia, Malis and Achaean Phthiotis)
Larissa
Crannon
Mylae
Ithome
Aegimum
Phaloria
Trikka
Olooson
Gomphi
Scotussa
Pharsalus
Pythium
Cierium
Euhydrium
Atrax
Gyrton
Gonnus
Malloea
Cyretae
Phalanna
Phaeca
Pireseae
Argura
Metropolis
Eritrium
Sycurium
Euryhydrium
Proerna
Pharcalon
Petinaeum
Mopsium
Ericinium
Axorus
Doliche
Argura
Lapathus
Phthia (Exclusive of lands later given to Malis; Inclusive of all Achaean Phthiotis)
Phthia
Pherae
Pegasae
Pletium
Demetrias
Thaunmaei
Halus
Pteleum
Melitaea
Phylace
Antron
Alope
Pyrasus
Xyniae
Itanus
Aetolia
Calydon
Pleuron
Eleaus
Pylene
Pamphia
Thestium
Agrinion
Aegitium
Callium
Oechalia
Aperantia
Trichonium
Cohope
Ithoria
Chalcidice
Olynthia
Potidaea
Stagira
Acanthus
Stratonicea
Apollonia Chalcidice
Singus
Mende
Sane
Scione
Torone
Cleonae
Dium
Charadrus
Aenea
Sermyle
Cassandreia
Acrothoi
Thyssus
Theraminus
Spartalus
Scolus
Mecyberna
Gigonus
Scapsa
Aphytas
Gallepsus
Sarte
Olophyxus
Caprus
Corinth
Corinth
Lechthaeum
Peraea
Oenoe
Schoenus
Sidus
Crommyon
Senechreae
Solygea
Tenea
Mycenae
Mycenae
Tyrins
Medea
Pylos
Ah, well. There's a start...
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Decided to do some more...
Euboea
Chalkis
Eritrea
Karystos
Oerus
Styra
Dium
Dystus
Marmarium
Athenae Diades
Porthmus
Aedepsus
Cyme
Orobiae
Tamynae
Cerinthus
Zaretha
Geraestus
Cyclades (Capital should be either Delos or Naxos; although Delos might be too small for any civ to have a chance)
Naxos
Delos
Melos
Thera
Syphnus
Iulus
Andros
Tenos
Cythnos
Syros
Arcesine
Aegiale
Paros
Minoa
Cimolos
Gaurium
Astipalaea
Mykonos
Poeessa
Carthaea
Antiparos
Seriphos
Sikinos
Coressos
Anaphi
Polyaegus
Polycandros
Ios
Gyaros
Oliaros
Rheneia
Ephyra
Prepesinthos
Lagussa
Ieracia
Ithaca
Ithaca
Same
Pronni
Cranii
Pale
Alcolmenae
Aegilips
Eliea
Elis
Pisa
Olympia
Lepreum
Pylus
Cyllene
Letrini
Ephyrae
Margalae
Phrixa
Heraclea
Lasion
Phea
Myrtanium
Samicum
Epitalium
Hyrmine
Scillus
Epium
Pyrgi
Messenia
Messene
Andania
Stemyclurus
Cyparissiae
Methone
Thuria
Asine
Abia
Pharae
Ira
Corone
Oechalia
Dorium
Colonides
Amphia
Limnae
Crete
Knossos
Gortyna
Tylissos
Lyttus
Hierapytna
Praesos
Kydonia
Dragmos
Polyrrhenia
Lato
Yrtakos
Fest
Elyros
Aptera
Oaxos
Raukos
Lappa
Eleuthernae
Lyktos
Araden
Eltyna
Malia
Hyrtacina
Iteia
Lykastos
Rhithymna
Itanus
Malla
Priansos
Phaestus
Zacros
Phalasarna
Gaudos
Viennos
Keraea
Orion
Lassaea
Aradaena
Oulous
Fallasarna
Sisaea
Itanos
Katri
Rethymnia
Rytio
Herronisos
Anopolis
Rokka
Istron
Dreros
Polychna
Arkades
Syvritos
Panormos
Apollonia
Siya
Modaeoi
Ertaea
Aena
Matala
Eronos
Kissamos
Tarra
Arsinoe
Lissos
Allaria
Rezynia
Tanos
Euboea
Chalkis
Eritrea
Karystos
Oerus
Styra
Dium
Dystus
Marmarium
Athenae Diades
Porthmus
Aedepsus
Cyme
Orobiae
Tamynae
Cerinthus
Zaretha
Geraestus
Cyclades (Capital should be either Delos or Naxos; although Delos might be too small for any civ to have a chance)
Naxos
Delos
Melos
Thera
Syphnus
Iulus
Andros
Tenos
Cythnos
Syros
Arcesine
Aegiale
Paros
Minoa
Cimolos
Gaurium
Astipalaea
Mykonos
Poeessa
Carthaea
Antiparos
Seriphos
Sikinos
Coressos
Anaphi
Polyaegus
Polycandros
Ios
Gyaros
Oliaros
Rheneia
Ephyra
Prepesinthos
Lagussa
Ieracia
Ithaca
Ithaca
Same
Pronni
Cranii
Pale
Alcolmenae
Aegilips
Eliea
Elis
Pisa
Olympia
Lepreum
Pylus
Cyllene
Letrini
Ephyrae
Margalae
Phrixa
Heraclea
Lasion
Phea
Myrtanium
Samicum
Epitalium
Hyrmine
Scillus
Epium
Pyrgi
Messenia
Messene
Andania
Stemyclurus
Cyparissiae
Methone
Thuria
Asine
Abia
Pharae
Ira
Corone
Oechalia
Dorium
Colonides
Amphia
Limnae
Crete
Knossos
Gortyna
Tylissos
Lyttus
Hierapytna
Praesos
Kydonia
Dragmos
Polyrrhenia
Lato
Yrtakos
Fest
Elyros
Aptera
Oaxos
Raukos
Lappa
Eleuthernae
Lyktos
Araden
Eltyna
Malia
Hyrtacina
Iteia
Lykastos
Rhithymna
Itanus
Malla
Priansos
Phaestus
Zacros
Phalasarna
Gaudos
Viennos
Keraea
Orion
Lassaea
Aradaena
Oulous
Fallasarna
Sisaea
Itanos
Katri
Rethymnia
Rytio
Herronisos
Anopolis
Rokka
Istron
Dreros
Polychna
Arkades
Syvritos
Panormos
Apollonia
Siya
Modaeoi
Ertaea
Aena
Matala
Eronos
Kissamos
Tarra
Arsinoe
Lissos
Allaria
Rezynia
Tanos
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Another list...
Macedonia: (Capital should be either Pella or Vergina (Aegae)
Pella
Vergina
Amphipolis
Philippi
Pydna
Philipopolis
Beroea
Cyrrhus
Methone
Thessalonika
Dium
Argos Orestikon
Europus
Almopia
Visaltia
Elimea
Therme
Heracleia
Argilus
Eion
Myrkinos
Arnissa
Serrhae
Cissus
Eordaea
Zerenia
Eratyra
Draviskos
Styberra
Vevi
Atalante
Cellae
Anthemus
Kreston
Bruanium
Calindoea
Arethusa
Kellas
Vegora
Styberra
Orma
Phylacae
Euporia
Xilopolis
Sidos
Kalliteres
Phangres
Antigonia
Tyrissa
Terpyllos
Bromiscus
Apsalos
Sindus
Lete
Verge
Kalavia
Horma
Chalestri
Notia
Cerdylium
Oreskia
Gallepsus
Brucida
Heraclea Pegonia
Aeane
Hatera
Argos
Argos
Nemea
Nauplia
Cleonae
Troezen
Epidamnus
Hermione
Epidauros
Orneae
Methana
Lyrcea
Mases
Hieron Aesculapu
Elaeus
Asine
Celenderes
Lesssa
Ilae
Cenchriae
Hysiae
Ephyra
Halica
Achaea (I know you didn't include it, but here it is anyway)
Helice
Aegium
Patrae
Sicyon
Dyme
Aegontium
Rhypes
Olenus
Aegira
Pellene
Cerynia
Bura
Titane
Erineus
Aristonautae
Megara (I suppose this list could either be added into Corinth or Athens to extend their lists)
Megara
Aegosthena
Parae
Nisaea
Tripodiscus
Phocis / Delphic Amphiktyonic League (Again, an extra unimportant list)
Delphi
Elatea
Abae
Anticyra
Daulis
Echidamia
Cirrha
Stiris
Hyambolis
Tithronium
Panopius
Amphicaea
Lildea
Anemoria
Tythorea
Drymaea
Phlygonium
Opisthoramatus
Bithynia It's a start...
Chalcedon
Nicaea
Astacus
Heraclea Pontica
Nicopolis
Cius
Dascylium
Calpe
Cyzicus
Lampsacus
Bithynion
Pontica
Ionia Again, a start...
Miletus
Ephesus
Prilene
Iassus
Erythrae
Teos
Colophon
Apaea
Baryla
Lebedos
Notium
Lade
Myos
Aeolia Again, a start...
Smyrna
Phokaea
Clazomenae
Gryneum
Cyme
Lydia Again, a start...
Sardis
Magnesia
Silandos
Thyratira
Philadelphia
Macedonia: (Capital should be either Pella or Vergina (Aegae)
Pella
Vergina
Amphipolis
Philippi
Pydna
Philipopolis
Beroea
Cyrrhus
Methone
Thessalonika
Dium
Argos Orestikon
Europus
Almopia
Visaltia
Elimea
Therme
Heracleia
Argilus
Eion
Myrkinos
Arnissa
Serrhae
Cissus
Eordaea
Zerenia
Eratyra
Draviskos
Styberra
Vevi
Atalante
Cellae
Anthemus
Kreston
Bruanium
Calindoea
Arethusa
Kellas
Vegora
Styberra
Orma
Phylacae
Euporia
Xilopolis
Sidos
Kalliteres
Phangres
Antigonia
Tyrissa
Terpyllos
Bromiscus
Apsalos
Sindus
Lete
Verge
Kalavia
Horma
Chalestri
Notia
Cerdylium
Oreskia
Gallepsus
Brucida
Heraclea Pegonia
Aeane
Hatera
Argos
Argos
Nemea
Nauplia
Cleonae
Troezen
Epidamnus
Hermione
Epidauros
Orneae
Methana
Lyrcea
Mases
Hieron Aesculapu
Elaeus
Asine
Celenderes
Lesssa
Ilae
Cenchriae
Hysiae
Ephyra
Halica
Achaea (I know you didn't include it, but here it is anyway)
Helice
Aegium
Patrae
Sicyon
Dyme
Aegontium
Rhypes
Olenus
Aegira
Pellene
Cerynia
Bura
Titane
Erineus
Aristonautae
Megara (I suppose this list could either be added into Corinth or Athens to extend their lists)
Megara
Aegosthena
Parae
Nisaea
Tripodiscus
Phocis / Delphic Amphiktyonic League (Again, an extra unimportant list)
Delphi
Elatea
Abae
Anticyra
Daulis
Echidamia
Cirrha
Stiris
Hyambolis
Tithronium
Panopius
Amphicaea
Lildea
Anemoria
Tythorea
Drymaea
Phlygonium
Opisthoramatus
Bithynia It's a start...
Chalcedon
Nicaea
Astacus
Heraclea Pontica
Nicopolis
Cius
Dascylium
Calpe
Cyzicus
Lampsacus
Bithynion
Pontica
Ionia Again, a start...
Miletus
Ephesus
Prilene
Iassus
Erythrae
Teos
Colophon
Apaea
Baryla
Lebedos
Notium
Lade
Myos
Aeolia Again, a start...
Smyrna
Phokaea
Clazomenae
Gryneum
Cyme
Lydia Again, a start...
Sardis
Magnesia
Silandos
Thyratira
Philadelphia
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
Waow ! Thank you Mongoloïd Cow !
@Vawrnos, Megara was a good proposition, but it's stuck between Attike and Peloponision. I'm affraid there's allready too much civs in that area. But.....
We might create a second map, without caring about gameplay balance ! This mod would focus on colonization byt some crowded areas. What do you think ?
@Vawrnos, Megara was a good proposition, but it's stuck between Attike and Peloponision. I'm affraid there's allready too much civs in that area. But.....
We might create a second map, without caring about gameplay balance ! This mod would focus on colonization byt some crowded areas. What do you think ?
MaisseArsouye
gentil petit nuton
I think what I said wasn't clear 
We might make two improved versions of my map. One with a well balanced gameplay and an other with major civs, wherever they are. So, people can choose the one they prefer. They could even make their own because they have all biq informations they need.
We might make two improved versions of my map. One with a well balanced gameplay and an other with major civs, wherever they are. So, people can choose the one they prefer. They could even make their own because they have all biq informations they need.
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
I noticed just before that you have included Mysia into the Aeolian list, so I'll work on that a bit more. I'll also add Dardanian and Ismaran cities to Troy.
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Here's more Anatolia...
Aeolia (Extended, I put Pergamum in first because that is what you said)
Pergamum
Smyrna
Phokaea
Clazomenae
Elaea
Gryneum
Attarnus
Cyme
Antandros
Adramyttium
Myrina
Karsrai
Caria
Halicarnassus
Mylassa
Tralles
Harpasa
Cnidus
Alabanda
Bargylia
Nysa
Stratonicaea
Laodicaea
Aphrodisias
Kaunos
Syme
Troy
Troy
Abydos
Dardanus
Ismarus
Maronea
Kebren
Zone
Lampsacus
Xantheia
Scepsis
Parium
Assos
Priapus
Phrygia (Keep in mind the cities aren't being limited by your maps eastern border)
Gordium
Iconium
Ancyra
Celenae
Pessinus
Archiraus
Sagalassus
Argiza
Apamea
Synada
Antiocheia
Kottaion
Gangra
Acroinon
And some north of Central Greece...
Epirus
Dodona
Ambracia
Ephyra
Phoenice
Passaron
Argos Amphilochicon
Argothea
Orestia
Panormus
Onchismos
Chimaera
Buthroton
Gitana
Pandosia
Chalandra
Toryne
Elatrim
Cranaea
Phylace
Helicranum
Cichyrus
Oricum
Vouthroton
Idomene
Athenaeum
Ilion
Argyrus
Buchetium
Olpae
Tecmon
Elaea
Photice
Argithea
Elaeus
Ompholium
Phanote
Cassope
Amandia
Euroea
Crenae
Nicopolis
Theodoria
Antigoneia
Hadrianopolis
Thrace
Byzantium
Odrysae
Serdica
Crenides
Cypselus
Messambreia
Phoruna
Maroneia
Kainoi
Neapolis
Buridava
Uskudama
Korpiloi
Stryme
Bisanthe
Skaptopara
Odessus
Sparata
Cabyle
Siritia
Koiletai
Oesyme
Lamphorynna
Sadama
Pautalia
Pistyrus
Lysimacheia
Tylis
Siris
Usdesikoi
Athypara
Strimos
Dentheletai
Apsinthoi
Sapaioi
Bizye
Perinthus
Abdera
Aenus
Chersonesus (Always going to run out of cities for this civ; but you could take the last three of Thrace's and attach them here.)
Sestos
Kardia
Elaeus
Pactyra
Illyria
Scodra
Pharos
Epidamnus
Lissus
Dimale
Apollonia
Salona
Lynchnides
Scampa
Vegia
Oameos
Pelium
Narona
Zaton
Siscia
Clodiana
Hybrianes
Candavia
Tergeste
Antipatria
Theranda
Stuberra
Peirustai
Parthinoi
Uskana
Taulantioi
That's pretty much all I'll do. Varwnos' lists for the rest of Greece are very full IIRC, and I can't do any more for the Chersonesus or Lydia.
Aeolia (Extended, I put Pergamum in first because that is what you said)
Pergamum
Smyrna
Phokaea
Clazomenae
Elaea
Gryneum
Attarnus
Cyme
Antandros
Adramyttium
Myrina
Karsrai
Caria
Halicarnassus
Mylassa
Tralles
Harpasa
Cnidus
Alabanda
Bargylia
Nysa
Stratonicaea
Laodicaea
Aphrodisias
Kaunos
Syme
Troy
Troy
Abydos
Dardanus
Ismarus
Maronea
Kebren
Zone
Lampsacus
Xantheia
Scepsis
Parium
Assos
Priapus
Phrygia (Keep in mind the cities aren't being limited by your maps eastern border)
Gordium
Iconium
Ancyra
Celenae
Pessinus
Archiraus
Sagalassus
Argiza
Apamea
Synada
Antiocheia
Kottaion
Gangra
Acroinon
And some north of Central Greece...
Epirus
Dodona
Ambracia
Ephyra
Phoenice
Passaron
Argos Amphilochicon
Argothea
Orestia
Panormus
Onchismos
Chimaera
Buthroton
Gitana
Pandosia
Chalandra
Toryne
Elatrim
Cranaea
Phylace
Helicranum
Cichyrus
Oricum
Vouthroton
Idomene
Athenaeum
Ilion
Argyrus
Buchetium
Olpae
Tecmon
Elaea
Photice
Argithea
Elaeus
Ompholium
Phanote
Cassope
Amandia
Euroea
Crenae
Nicopolis
Theodoria
Antigoneia
Hadrianopolis
Thrace
Byzantium
Odrysae
Serdica
Crenides
Cypselus
Messambreia
Phoruna
Maroneia
Kainoi
Neapolis
Buridava
Uskudama
Korpiloi
Stryme
Bisanthe
Skaptopara
Odessus
Sparata
Cabyle
Siritia
Koiletai
Oesyme
Lamphorynna
Sadama
Pautalia
Pistyrus
Lysimacheia
Tylis
Siris
Usdesikoi
Athypara
Strimos
Dentheletai
Apsinthoi
Sapaioi
Bizye
Perinthus
Abdera
Aenus
Chersonesus (Always going to run out of cities for this civ; but you could take the last three of Thrace's and attach them here.)
Sestos
Kardia
Elaeus
Pactyra
Illyria
Scodra
Pharos
Epidamnus
Lissus
Dimale
Apollonia
Salona
Lynchnides
Scampa
Vegia
Oameos
Pelium
Narona
Zaton
Siscia
Clodiana
Hybrianes
Candavia
Tergeste
Antipatria
Theranda
Stuberra
Peirustai
Parthinoi
Uskana
Taulantioi
That's pretty much all I'll do. Varwnos' lists for the rest of Greece are very full IIRC, and I can't do any more for the Chersonesus or Lydia.
