Imus from MSNBC in trouble for racist remarks!

[Mark1031]

MSNBC dropped him for good http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/business/media/11cnd-imus.html?hp

 

[amadeus]

And he doesn't get to stay one pretending he is a 20 year old rapper.

Just how many rappers can you name that have called someone "nappy-haired?"

That guy, maybe?

 

[JollyRoger]

Just how many rappers can you name that have called someone "nappy-haired?"

That guy, maybe?

I personally can't name any. I got my "the rappers say it too" talking point from Imus apologists. Maybe Imus can revive his career under the name Vanilla Ice Age.

 

[Gogf]

It's not that "the rappers say it too." It's that he's satirizing the rappers for saying it.

 

[JollyRoger]

It's not that "the rappers say it too." It's that he's satirizing the rappers for saying it.

Except he wasn't satirizing when he said it.

 

[skadistic]

Just how many rappers can you name that have called someone "nappy-haired?"

That guy, maybe?

Swap the hat out for a pork pie and I'd rock that pimp suit all day long.

 

[Turner]

Is Imus really the problem? How about a different viewpoint?

Imus isn’t the real bad guy
Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

The bigots win again.

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

Oh, and we've seen Whitlock before, a couple of months ago.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

The current black subculture highlighted in Turner's article has been at the center of my hometowns news for a couple days now. Our schools have been overridden by violence brought in by kids (predominantly black) from the neighborhoods, who are holding a "north side-south side" turf rivalry. The violence came to a peak when a drive by shooting resulted in the death of a student in my school, all related to these turf rivalries, just last week.

Right now, this culture is helping to drive black kids away from education. Around one third of them in my school have a GPA of 0.5 or less.

That doesn't justify what Imus said (though it certainly doesn't make it illegal) but I did want to comment on Turner's article.

 

[Bamspeedy]

Snoop Dogg's take on it:

In AN INTERVIEW with MTV News, rapper Snoop Dogg rejected the claim by embattled radio shock jock Don Imus that his description of the Rutgers Women's basketball team as "nappy headed ho's" was nothing more than what rappers regularly say.

"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop in a phone interview. "We are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things.

"First of all," Mr. Dogg elaborated, "we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them muthaf---as say we in the same league as him."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Snoop Dogg's take on it:



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/

That's completely insane. Tons of rap talks about violence, calling people b1tche's, ho's, and everything in between. Why don't people just learn to turn the damn stuff off if they don't like it.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

"First of all," Mr. Dogg elaborated, "we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them muthaf---as say we in the same league as him."

Mmmhmm so we know rappers hearts and souls are just as bad as Imus's mouth... thanks for the distinction Dogg!

 

[Adamb0mb]

Snoop Dogg's take on it:



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/

Wow, poor thinking Snoop.

Snoop should realize that being a free speech advocate is gonna always be in his best interest. Imagine how angry Snoop would be if Imus was advocating "permanately taking him off the air" because of his lyrics.

 

[amadeus]

If they can give the boot to Imus for saying something stupid once, will they get rid of Chris Matthews? He says stupid things every day and they keep him on.

 

[JollyRoger]

If they can give the boot to Imus for saying something stupid once, will they get rid of Chris Matthews? He says stupid things every day and they keep him on.

Agreed, but probably for a different set of stupid statements.

 

[woody60707]

Lets be honest, most of the people jumping on the Imus is a racist bandwagons that you see on the air are just doing it for some fame and money.

Every time I hear about this on the news, i think of that MSI song.

 

[.Shane.]

lol, I agree w/ what Turner posted. Imus is just a punching bag at this point.

 

[CartesianFart]

A punching bag by the racketeers as the likes of Sharpton and other silly African American groups who are fighting against nonsense comedy...not racism.

 

[fishjie]

actually Imus does a ton of stuff for charity, and has done more than his share for making the world a better place. hes a good person.

people are too damn PC these days.

 

[bhsup]

Note my earlier post totally left the issue of racism untouched. Declaring that the women earn money via sexual favors is in itself slanderous, demeaning, and asinine enough for him to deserve losing his job. Forget all about the hype regarding Jackson, Sharpton, and all of the racial issues, and he still deserves to be fired for calling someone a whore.

 

[CartesianFart]

Note my earlier post totally left the issue of racism untouched. Declaring that the women earn money via sexual favors is in itself slanderous, demeaning, and asinine enough for him to deserve losing his job. Forget all about the hype regarding Jackson, Sharpton, and all of the racial issues, and he still deserves to be fired for calling someone a whore.

Not a whore because that denote as a woman being a prostitute not a slut which in fact is synonomous to the meaning of 'ho.'

I have to say that it was a comedic of low form that took it out of poportion by interest groups imposing their ideological platform such as the likes of Jackson and Sharpton who are somewhat silly in some of thier comments that are many material fallacies that appeals to not only ignorance to meanings what and how to use "nappy-headed ho" in a comedic contex but also popular appeals and the authority of politically correctness.