Information Drought?

I actually hope they do that with the Shoshone and replace it with the Kingdom of Kongo or something.

What can I say - Africa needs more love!

Not at the expense of finally having two Native American civs in the same game. If they're going to drop either civ just to stick it to the leaker--and they are in no way going to do that--it had better be the European civ.
 
Uh, two Native American civs? There already are four of them before Shoshone - Sub-Saharan Africa only has Ethiopia and soon-to-be included Zulu. Also, I personally don't like the inclusion of semi-nomadic people as "Empires" in the game.
 
Please don't do this to my beautiful Information Drought thread. I don't want it to be closed.
 
Me neither, I hadn't even heard of the Shoshone before they were announced but having semi-nomadic peoples building empires just feels weird.

Let's cut the offtopic here though, lest this become another Shoshone thread.
 
I'm sorry but I don't see why a game about building an empire should give undue weight to Native American tribes that never focused on the aspects the game plays with, or why I should know about them in particular (as opposed to any other culture around the world). Besides, even though I don't know a lot about the Shoshones, I'm fairly sure having them as "token Indians" won't really do them justice either.
 
Two tribes is not "undue weight". We have that many groups from Scandinavia. And an individual player's lack of interest in or knowledge about some group or another (which often seems to go hand-in-hand) does not make them inherently unworthy.
 
A tribe without any focus on the things they do in Civilization (building cities, great monuments, wonders, conquering cities, exploring the world, advancing science etc) is undue weight in my opinion. However, you have a right to your opinion, as do I. I agree to disagree in this topic, let's return to the subject of the thread.
 
Back to the lack of info please. The thread is derailing.

Agreed.

Anyway, I don't think they're going to cut any civs. I would find it much easier to believe they are ignoring the leak and are on their planned schedule than that they panicked when the leak happened and went frantically searching for replacements. Or that they're denying us information because they're sulking about the leak. They're a corporation with a product to release, not a child who is upset because someone else gave the punchline to his lame joke.
 
There's no way Shoshone and Venice are being replaced unless consipracy theories would suggest that it's a fake leak and the 2 remaining civs are different, it takes them 5 weeks to create a leaderhead alone not counting all the balancing they would need to do for new civs if they were to make emergency replacement ones.
 
Uh, two Native American civs? There already are four of them before Shoshone - Sub-Saharan Africa only has Ethiopia and soon-to-be included Zulu. Also, I personally don't like the inclusion of semi-nomadic people as "Empires" in the game.

3 Sub-Saharan civs - Ethiopia, Zulu and Songhai and 3 North-African civs, so 6 for one continent. North America has 4 with Shoshones and South America has 2 with Brazil and Maya could be counted for either of them.

So, both American continents have 7 civs total, while Africa alone has 6.

There are other areas which need more love. For example, we have zero North-Asian civs, while it's a huge territory with a lot of quite advanced nations throughout its history.
 
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Behind that Wall of Trains, there's a desert full of a lack of information :lol:
 
Just stop trying to feed an offtopic discussion. You can disagree if you want, but my opinion stands: Kongo deserves to be in the game more than Shoshone. This is not the place to discuss it though, so stop trying to feed a flame war.
 
So no civ confirmation today either, anyone know of any magazine articles that could be released later today?
 
Although he didn't fully said it's confirmed, a zource said something might get released at the end of the week. (from a gaming website/channel/magazine)
 
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