Interesting fiction/myth about automata/robots

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You can discuss fiction which is including automata. The original of those stories likely is the myth of the giant robot-defender of Crete, named Talos. A creation of Hephaestos, like all the other metallic living things or machinery.

E.T.A. Hoffmann was a very significant author in the era of romanticism, and influenced very famous later authors as well (eg Dostoevsky and Guy de Maupassant). A lot of his stories are about automata. "Der Sandmann" is likely his crowning work in this genre, and a very interesting short story. A larger work of his is "The Elixirs of the Devil", which has to do with doubles/doppelgangers.

Although not exactly about a robot, there is a very uncharacteristic short story by Kleist, titled "The marionettes" (iirc, or something similar). It is a (mostly allegoric) study of the move of marionettes, juxtaposed to humans. Later on it has a very strange and memorable scene of fencing, where only one of the adversaries happens to be human :)

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Sadly i do not recall any other automaton or robot in literature which made an impression on me. The charm of the stories mentioned above is that the automata are not a sort of human with machine parts, but really something alien to humans. They are a lot more like moving blocks of wood and metal, and maybe not much more than an illusion, despite having some basic abilities (even to talk, in some of Hoffmann's stories). The Golem, in the eponymous early 20th century novel by Gustave Meyrink, is a variation on that (and the jewish myth of the golem), but in reality it is not about robots as much as about a trap which can get operated by a human.

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Whether the 'other beings' are aliens, monsters, demons or machines, they all serve the same purpose, do they not? Being used as a mirror for humanity in different stories. :)

In any case, Karel Čapek's R.U.R (Rosumovi Univerzální Roboti - Rossum’s Universal Robots) deserves an honorable mention here, if only for popularising the word 'robot'. But it's basically just one more story of how human arrogance can (will?) lead to our downfall - with elements of slavery and a time cycle, as the robots in the end turn out to be just like humans...

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Thinking about it, those robot costumes look a lot like TNG's Romulans...


I still like robot stories though. I can at least imagine that they can become an actual reality at some point. Anything that hints of further scientific advance and knowledge is good to me. :)
 
I am so tired of the robot uprising meme. What should I read to avoid even just the idea of such?
 
^ETA Hoffmann.

@Cheetah: thanks ;) Has to be said, though, that those seem to be 'androids', ie some sort of supposed AI. An automaton is not really an intelligence; more of an automatically moving and (very basically) having a set goal kind of creation/machine. It may have some infinitesimal sense, but this is not clear, and i doubt it can be argued in the cases i mentioned. But they are still creepy objects with some pseudo-will to do something.
 
Asimov had an interesting short story called "The Feeling of Power" in which a war between two powers, being carried out by automated fighter jets and bombers, takes an interesting turn when a man rediscovers that he can do MATH. His society is so dependent on pocket computers that ordinary arithmetic is beyond him. The army builds on the discovery to incorporate human pilots in its martial plans, and a war that was a stalemate turns into one of rapid conquests -- leading the original mathematician so sickened to his stomach that he offs himself. Asimov wrote this in the 1960s, so it's fascinating to me to see the predicted atrophy coming to pass now. Just recently I saw a news article in the Economist about handwriting dying in China, and I have to make myself do multiplication tables and the like so I won't forget ordinary schoolroom math -- calculators are on every phone, gadget, and computer. We've even reached utterly inhuman warfare with the use of drones in the air and rovers on the ground.

The Feeling of Power
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"Computing without a computer," said the president impatiently, "is a contradiction in terms."
"Computing," said the congressman, "is only a system for handling data. A machine might do it, or the human brain might. Let me give you an example." And, using the new skills he had learned, he worked out sums and products until the president, despite himself, grew interested.
"Does this always work?"
"Every time, Mr. President. It is foolproof."
"Is it hard to learn?"
"It took me a week to get the real hang of it. I think you would do better."
"Well," said the president, considering, "it's an interesting parlor game, but what is the use of it?"
"What is the use of a newborn baby, Mr. President? At the moment there is no use, but don't you see that this points the way toward liberation from the machine."


Asimov was a technosupremacist for the most part, which makes the perspective here fascinating.
 
^ETA Hoffmann.

@Cheetah: thanks ;) Has to be said, though, that those seem to be 'androids', ie some sort of supposed AI. An automaton is not really an intelligence; more of an automatically moving and (very basically) having a set goal kind of creation/machine. It may have some infinitesimal sense, but this is not clear, and i doubt it can be argued in the cases i mentioned. But they are still creepy objects with some pseudo-will to do something.
Meh. You're just imagining a distinct separation between 'real' intelligence and signal processing which doesn't really exist. It's all on a continuum, and our brains with our 'real' intelligence are just very complex nerve bundles which allows for much greater signal processing. It's still the very same processing which amoebas do however - we all react to stimuli.

An 'automaton' (which just is a word of the same meaning as robot, android, thinking machine, and what have you - their usage all comes down to the author really) can be as stupid or as intelligent as the universe created by the author demands.

If you just want a highly functional machine, then even reality had stuff like that: Water-powered clocks have been with us for over 3000 years, and the medieval Chinese even built a water-powered astronomical clock tower which "possessed a bronze power-driven armillary sphere for observations, an automatically rotating celestial globe, and five front panels with doors that permitted the viewing of changing mannequins which rang bells or gongs, and held tablets indicating the hour or other special times of the day." There's also fake automatons/machines, like the Mechanical Turk.

From fiction you already mentioned Golems, but most gods and demons, and all the enchanted trees and armors and what have you are magical automatons in this case...

Oh, and I really shouldn't need to tell you of all people what android actually means. ;)

(Though apparently in the story they were what we today would refer to as cyborgs...)
 
Well, automaton literally means 'having a will itself', but the will is very basic, at least in the case of Talos and other such mechanical creations the term was used for in ancient times.. As for signal processing, i think that if a machine could have even the most basic 'sense' of an outer environment, it can be said to be 'intelligent', but in my view this is not possible (unless the machine is fused with some dna, but in that case it would be the dna that functions as the provider of the 'sense', so the machine itself isn't intelligent once again).

But the thread is not really about this ;)
 
Golem of Prague?
 
Lem's work is brilliant. Poor Klapaucius and his machine…
 
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