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@Sone, I know you did.. but they aren't in your sign up post any more... I think you Ctrl+V'ed over them
Ugh. Sorry METY.
Actually, I think I may have Ctrl-V'd, placed them back, and THEN posted the spoiled flag over them.
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Nation name: California Empire
Flag:
Color: Green on the flag
Capital: San Fransisco, California
Other Claims: Sonora, Colorado
Description: The date of the history of the California can be said to begin on 1781, when a man known as Joshua Abraham Norton was born in London, England. However, when he was two, his family emigrated to America, where they made a comfortable living as businessmen in Albany, New York.
In the dawn of the new century, conflict was sure to erupt. The southern states just seceded, and the war was dragging down the Union. Norton enlisted in the American Army, and became a war hero in the Siege of New Orleans. New Orleans was a bastidon of Union support, so Confederate forces surrounded the city very early in the war with cannons and bombarded it day after day. Elements of various Union troops, including the newly raised 13th Rifles of New York which contained Norton, reinforced the city and built improvised defences. William Eaton was the commander of this combined force
Starving for six months, the battle reached its critical moment in March 12, 1804, where a loyalist Tennessee militia raised by recently ousted Judge Andrew Jackson started engaging the Confederate forces. Stuck between a hammer and an anvil, the rebels decided to do one last push against the defenders to try to use their defences against the incoming forces. Seeing this, Eaton declared that, "We will meet steel with steel", and ordered a countercharge of American forces. The result was a bloody bayonet fight that eventual-Emperor was right of the thick of. In the middle of this, Jackson also ordered a bayonet charge, encircling the Confederate forces.
However, one Confederate soldier whose name was lost in history, was able to get up to Eaton himself. The anonymous soldier lunged his bayonet at the general, who tried to counter with his sword. However, it was too little too late, and the bayonet punctured his throat. He was killed instantly. While Jackon's outside forces pressed on their charge, the forces from inside the city started to falter and retreated back into their barricades. However, a few units stayed behind to cover them, such as Norton's. They continued to stay in melee range with the foes, who was having a huge amount of casualties. Norton saw a man in the Tennessee having difficulty fighting off a Confederate soldier, so he stabbed the latter in the back, saving him. This man, he would find out, was Jackson himself, escalating him to a war hero for saving him.
The battle was won at the end of the day, and the city was never threatened again. While Jackson's forces left back to Tennessee to fight a guerrilla war against the rebels, Norton had to stay in the city to make sure it was not threatened again. The Confederates never even tried coming against them again, too horrified by the first battle to try again. The city, however, was handed over to them after the war in 1807, as holding an enclave was considered infeasible to the government.
The same year, in May, Jackson, now displaced to Illinois, invited Norton to his new house. From there, Jackson told Norton about how he had a future for America, a one much better than holding "the backwards Southern Aristocracy". He claimed that the Spanish territory of California, considered useless land by Spain, might actually be a literal goldmine. Jackson further said that the colonial government is so desperate for new colonists, that they are accepting foreigners so as long they converted to Catholicism and became Spanish citizens. "I'd never follow those conditions", pledged Norton, but Jackson said he plans not to either. "So, are in to California?", Jackson asked. "Yes", Norton replied
The first major wave of Californian-bound settlers was arranged later that month, and they set off from St. Louis. They would follow a path known later as "The California Trail", where hilariously both Jackson and Norton would have dysentery at the same time. Both lived through it, but they never wanted to talk about it ever again. Once they reached California sometime in October, the train split into two. Norton brought the train northwards in hope of gold, while Jackson went southwards. This was planned beforehand in an attempt to find the rumored gold quicker. In Northern California, the crazed settlers tired panning everywhere to find a source of gold. On the banks of the northern American River, a lady by the name of Catherine Smith found some of the shiny stuff. Jackson was right. The colonial government, finally seeing something important in California, boldly claimed to the world of the gold discovery.
In the spring of 1808, nothing would prepare the mission of San Fransisco of what would come. Hundreds of hundreds boats landed on the pier of San Fransisco, who came for gold. However, some people, upon arrival, decided it would be better to stay there and turn the place as a merchant hub. The mission technically owned the whole surrounding land, but saw the economical value in this and let the oncoming people stake land. The led to the place having just 1,000 people in 1807 to around 25,000 in 1808.
However, all was not going well. The '08ers, as the American-born miners are called, disregarded the requirements sent up by the Spanish. They were still mainly Protestant, refused citizenship, and still spoke English. Also, Californios, or Spanish-born Californians, were upset in how the Americans were Anglicizing their colony and taking most of its wealth. The initial welcome had turned into open hostility, until the colonial offices announced the official nationalization of the American River mills in February of 1810.
Norton, now residing in the boomtown of San Francisco, called Jackson to come up to his residence to discuss what to do. Jackson came later in the month, already with a plan in mind. He wanted to create a "California Republic" to defend the interest of the miners and the American Californians. Jackson further stated that, with his military experience, he was willing and able to launch a grand army. Norton agreed, but told Jackson until said army is leveed before they declare independence.
After waiting two months, on April 19th, 1810, Norton gave a speech in the square of San Fransisco, declaring the creation of the California Republic. This day, coincidentally the same day as the Battles of Lexington and Concord, is still celebrated as Independence Day in California.
*Insert a bunch of military campaigns which I honestly don't think I'll get towards writing*
In May 29, 1813, after three years of brutal fighting, the now toppled Spanish viceroyalties recognized the independent California Republic, consisting of all territory north of the Rio Grande excepting Texas, Baja California, and Sonora, which the Californian army occupied for most of the war. The wartime government, basically a junta, was abolished, and the democratic republic was established. In a unanimous vote in a re-established electoral college, Andrew Jackson was voted to be the first, and ultimately only, President of the California Republic, with Joshua Norton as vice president. A congress not unlike the American one was set up.
For only three months later, on August 31st, Jackson was assassinated. While to this day it is still debated who fired the gun or even why, it was almost immediately blamed on the Californios for trying to destroy the republic from within. The calls of the '08ers to "Create an American land" grew louder as a more fevourish campaign to Anglicize the nation grew. However, in Norton's eyes, this was evidence that presidential democracy even worked. Three days later, he surprised the nation that he will not assume the role of president, but of in fact Emperor of California.
This naturally caused a great deal of outrage. "It is unamerican to have a monarchy" was the common cry back then. Norton, however, found an unexpected ally in the armed forces. They thought that a stable emperor will allow them to have more influence in a government than a constantly new president. They would protect him, in turn, from the people who did not want an emperor ruling over them.
The coronation, however, did not commence until January 13th of 1814. There, in San Fransisco, he was crowned by no one but himself. There was no priest, no higher body, just the one man. Norton did not claim any sort of divine right, but instead of the mandate of the Californian people. Furthermore, with this day spelt the end of the short lived California Republic, and the creation of the new California Empire led by Emperor Norton I of the House of Norton.
TL;DR: Norton is born earlier, Becomes a war hero in a radically different Battle of New Orleans and best buds with Andrew Jackson, the Gold Rush starts earlier, the Spanish try nationalizing the gold mills, a republic is declared and won, Jackson gets assassinated, Norton gets disillusioned to presidential democracy and declares a constitutional empire, army backs up and legitimizes his rule as a new monarch
Factions:
Ursa Imperium: This faction is comprised of the Emperor himself and the close ties of prominent generals that let him become Emperor. It is known for being warhawks, calling for a centralized state, and, in some cases, the complete destruction of civilian rule in general (However, the Emperor distances himself from those radicals, saying that is not how he intends on ruling).
'08ers: While the term specifically refers to the Americans who came to California in the original 1807 expedition or the first wave in 1808, it has grown to mean all the American-born Californians. '08ers are rugged individualists who wish to see democracy run the nation in someway (Most have been accepting of the Constitutional Monarchy that Norton is setting up), complete privatization of the economy and basically just being able to live their life without government interference.
Californios: The term "Californois" originally referred to the Spanish-descended Californians. However, with acquisition of more Spanish land, it has evolved to mean the same thing as our world's "Hispanic". Originally a small minority, they have grown in size very rapidly with acquisition of Colorado and Sonora. However, they remain powerless even now; many don't even speak English, which the only recognized language. Common goals include the reversing of the Anglicization of the nation, reversing of many anti-Californios laws, and in some cases even the creation of their own nation.
@Son, if you have any problem with this history affecting yours in a way you don't like it, please say so.
Flag:
Spoiler :
Color: Green on the flag
Capital: San Fransisco, California
Other Claims: Sonora, Colorado
Description: The date of the history of the California can be said to begin on 1781, when a man known as Joshua Abraham Norton was born in London, England. However, when he was two, his family emigrated to America, where they made a comfortable living as businessmen in Albany, New York.
In the dawn of the new century, conflict was sure to erupt. The southern states just seceded, and the war was dragging down the Union. Norton enlisted in the American Army, and became a war hero in the Siege of New Orleans. New Orleans was a bastidon of Union support, so Confederate forces surrounded the city very early in the war with cannons and bombarded it day after day. Elements of various Union troops, including the newly raised 13th Rifles of New York which contained Norton, reinforced the city and built improvised defences. William Eaton was the commander of this combined force
Starving for six months, the battle reached its critical moment in March 12, 1804, where a loyalist Tennessee militia raised by recently ousted Judge Andrew Jackson started engaging the Confederate forces. Stuck between a hammer and an anvil, the rebels decided to do one last push against the defenders to try to use their defences against the incoming forces. Seeing this, Eaton declared that, "We will meet steel with steel", and ordered a countercharge of American forces. The result was a bloody bayonet fight that eventual-Emperor was right of the thick of. In the middle of this, Jackson also ordered a bayonet charge, encircling the Confederate forces.
However, one Confederate soldier whose name was lost in history, was able to get up to Eaton himself. The anonymous soldier lunged his bayonet at the general, who tried to counter with his sword. However, it was too little too late, and the bayonet punctured his throat. He was killed instantly. While Jackon's outside forces pressed on their charge, the forces from inside the city started to falter and retreated back into their barricades. However, a few units stayed behind to cover them, such as Norton's. They continued to stay in melee range with the foes, who was having a huge amount of casualties. Norton saw a man in the Tennessee having difficulty fighting off a Confederate soldier, so he stabbed the latter in the back, saving him. This man, he would find out, was Jackson himself, escalating him to a war hero for saving him.
The battle was won at the end of the day, and the city was never threatened again. While Jackson's forces left back to Tennessee to fight a guerrilla war against the rebels, Norton had to stay in the city to make sure it was not threatened again. The Confederates never even tried coming against them again, too horrified by the first battle to try again. The city, however, was handed over to them after the war in 1807, as holding an enclave was considered infeasible to the government.
The same year, in May, Jackson, now displaced to Illinois, invited Norton to his new house. From there, Jackson told Norton about how he had a future for America, a one much better than holding "the backwards Southern Aristocracy". He claimed that the Spanish territory of California, considered useless land by Spain, might actually be a literal goldmine. Jackson further said that the colonial government is so desperate for new colonists, that they are accepting foreigners so as long they converted to Catholicism and became Spanish citizens. "I'd never follow those conditions", pledged Norton, but Jackson said he plans not to either. "So, are in to California?", Jackson asked. "Yes", Norton replied
The first major wave of Californian-bound settlers was arranged later that month, and they set off from St. Louis. They would follow a path known later as "The California Trail", where hilariously both Jackson and Norton would have dysentery at the same time. Both lived through it, but they never wanted to talk about it ever again. Once they reached California sometime in October, the train split into two. Norton brought the train northwards in hope of gold, while Jackson went southwards. This was planned beforehand in an attempt to find the rumored gold quicker. In Northern California, the crazed settlers tired panning everywhere to find a source of gold. On the banks of the northern American River, a lady by the name of Catherine Smith found some of the shiny stuff. Jackson was right. The colonial government, finally seeing something important in California, boldly claimed to the world of the gold discovery.
In the spring of 1808, nothing would prepare the mission of San Fransisco of what would come. Hundreds of hundreds boats landed on the pier of San Fransisco, who came for gold. However, some people, upon arrival, decided it would be better to stay there and turn the place as a merchant hub. The mission technically owned the whole surrounding land, but saw the economical value in this and let the oncoming people stake land. The led to the place having just 1,000 people in 1807 to around 25,000 in 1808.
However, all was not going well. The '08ers, as the American-born miners are called, disregarded the requirements sent up by the Spanish. They were still mainly Protestant, refused citizenship, and still spoke English. Also, Californios, or Spanish-born Californians, were upset in how the Americans were Anglicizing their colony and taking most of its wealth. The initial welcome had turned into open hostility, until the colonial offices announced the official nationalization of the American River mills in February of 1810.
Norton, now residing in the boomtown of San Francisco, called Jackson to come up to his residence to discuss what to do. Jackson came later in the month, already with a plan in mind. He wanted to create a "California Republic" to defend the interest of the miners and the American Californians. Jackson further stated that, with his military experience, he was willing and able to launch a grand army. Norton agreed, but told Jackson until said army is leveed before they declare independence.
After waiting two months, on April 19th, 1810, Norton gave a speech in the square of San Fransisco, declaring the creation of the California Republic. This day, coincidentally the same day as the Battles of Lexington and Concord, is still celebrated as Independence Day in California.
*Insert a bunch of military campaigns which I honestly don't think I'll get towards writing*
In May 29, 1813, after three years of brutal fighting, the now toppled Spanish viceroyalties recognized the independent California Republic, consisting of all territory north of the Rio Grande excepting Texas, Baja California, and Sonora, which the Californian army occupied for most of the war. The wartime government, basically a junta, was abolished, and the democratic republic was established. In a unanimous vote in a re-established electoral college, Andrew Jackson was voted to be the first, and ultimately only, President of the California Republic, with Joshua Norton as vice president. A congress not unlike the American one was set up.
For only three months later, on August 31st, Jackson was assassinated. While to this day it is still debated who fired the gun or even why, it was almost immediately blamed on the Californios for trying to destroy the republic from within. The calls of the '08ers to "Create an American land" grew louder as a more fevourish campaign to Anglicize the nation grew. However, in Norton's eyes, this was evidence that presidential democracy even worked. Three days later, he surprised the nation that he will not assume the role of president, but of in fact Emperor of California.
This naturally caused a great deal of outrage. "It is unamerican to have a monarchy" was the common cry back then. Norton, however, found an unexpected ally in the armed forces. They thought that a stable emperor will allow them to have more influence in a government than a constantly new president. They would protect him, in turn, from the people who did not want an emperor ruling over them.
The coronation, however, did not commence until January 13th of 1814. There, in San Fransisco, he was crowned by no one but himself. There was no priest, no higher body, just the one man. Norton did not claim any sort of divine right, but instead of the mandate of the Californian people. Furthermore, with this day spelt the end of the short lived California Republic, and the creation of the new California Empire led by Emperor Norton I of the House of Norton.
TL;DR: Norton is born earlier, Becomes a war hero in a radically different Battle of New Orleans and best buds with Andrew Jackson, the Gold Rush starts earlier, the Spanish try nationalizing the gold mills, a republic is declared and won, Jackson gets assassinated, Norton gets disillusioned to presidential democracy and declares a constitutional empire, army backs up and legitimizes his rule as a new monarch
Factions:
Ursa Imperium: This faction is comprised of the Emperor himself and the close ties of prominent generals that let him become Emperor. It is known for being warhawks, calling for a centralized state, and, in some cases, the complete destruction of civilian rule in general (However, the Emperor distances himself from those radicals, saying that is not how he intends on ruling).
'08ers: While the term specifically refers to the Americans who came to California in the original 1807 expedition or the first wave in 1808, it has grown to mean all the American-born Californians. '08ers are rugged individualists who wish to see democracy run the nation in someway (Most have been accepting of the Constitutional Monarchy that Norton is setting up), complete privatization of the economy and basically just being able to live their life without government interference.
Californios: The term "Californois" originally referred to the Spanish-descended Californians. However, with acquisition of more Spanish land, it has evolved to mean the same thing as our world's "Hispanic". Originally a small minority, they have grown in size very rapidly with acquisition of Colorado and Sonora. However, they remain powerless even now; many don't even speak English, which the only recognized language. Common goals include the reversing of the Anglicization of the nation, reversing of many anti-Californios laws, and in some cases even the creation of their own nation.
@Son, if you have any problem with this history affecting yours in a way you don't like it, please say so.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
Nation name: Khanate of Mongolia
Flag:
Color: Blue
Capital: mongolia
claims: Mongolia, suiyuan and a random chinese province.
Description: The Mongol Empire emerged from the unification of Mongol and Turkic tribes in the region of modern-day Mongolia under the leadership of Genghis Khan, who was proclaimed ruler of all Mongols in 1206. The empire grew rapidly under his rule and then that of his descendants, who sent invasions in every direction. The Yuan is considered both a successor to the Mongol Empire and as an imperial Chinese dynasty. In official Chinese histories, the Yuan Dynasty bore the Mandate of Heaven, following the Song Dynasty and preceding the Ming. Although the dynasty was established by Kublai Khan, he placed his grandfather Genghis Khan on the imperial records as the official founder of the dynasty as Taizu. After a revolt in 1679 the Ming Dynasty overthrow the Yuan and send the Mongols back to Mongolia. However the Yuan managed to re-organize the army and made huge conquests during the period of 1700 to 1790 A.D
Factions:
Imperials: Believe that the Khan must have absolute power.
Democrats: They believe in constitutional monarchy.
Socialists: They want a democracy.
Leader:
Khan Chiang:
Flag:
Color: Blue
Capital: mongolia
claims: Mongolia, suiyuan and a random chinese province.
Description: The Mongol Empire emerged from the unification of Mongol and Turkic tribes in the region of modern-day Mongolia under the leadership of Genghis Khan, who was proclaimed ruler of all Mongols in 1206. The empire grew rapidly under his rule and then that of his descendants, who sent invasions in every direction. The Yuan is considered both a successor to the Mongol Empire and as an imperial Chinese dynasty. In official Chinese histories, the Yuan Dynasty bore the Mandate of Heaven, following the Song Dynasty and preceding the Ming. Although the dynasty was established by Kublai Khan, he placed his grandfather Genghis Khan on the imperial records as the official founder of the dynasty as Taizu. After a revolt in 1679 the Ming Dynasty overthrow the Yuan and send the Mongols back to Mongolia. However the Yuan managed to re-organize the army and made huge conquests during the period of 1700 to 1790 A.D
Factions:
Imperials: Believe that the Khan must have absolute power.
Democrats: They believe in constitutional monarchy.
Socialists: They want a democracy.
Leader:
Khan Chiang:
Robert Can't
Éponine
The Most Serene Free Duchy of The Lordship Hadley and Gentlemen's Council of Port Hadley
Nation name
Official Short: The Gentlemen's Free Duchy of Port Hadley
Official Long: The Most Serene Free Duchy of The Lordship Hadley and Gentlemen's Council of Port Hadley
Commonly used Short Form: Duchy of Port Hadley
Colloquial: Port Hadley, The Gentlemen's Duchy, Freeport, Freeport Hadley, Free Hadley, Hadley India, Free Ceylon
Flags
State Flag:
Naval Ensign:
Haley Coat of Arms:
The Coat of Arms is that of the family and is also shown on the royal standard, state flag, civil flag and naval ensign of The Most Serene Free Duchy of The Lordship Hadley and Gentlemen's Council of Port Hadley.
The motto at the bottom reads "Pax et Amoris" which (hopefully, for I am no student of Latin) means Peace and love and is the motto of both the family itself and the nation as a whole (Although where one starts and the other ends is subject to much debate) it is used because of the Family's attitudes towards there fellow man and the introduction of several social reforms on India with an aim to improve the life of the poorest in an almost socialist way.
The two different branches are Poplar (Left) and Na (right). The poplar (yes, as in Pirates) represents the solitude of Port Hadley as a displaced European monarchy and also the solitude of Norman Hadley when he came to the Island. It is often used in Port Hadley as a symbol of sorrow or despair but the kind that will, that must, end. This tree is also seen to be a manifestation of the family's secondary motto - "It'll be right in the end".
The Na tree is representative of the Island of Ceylon. It is an extensively spread species and can grow to great heights of 30m it has a very hard wood, and is almost unmatched in strength and also has significant religious value to Buddhists. It is also known to have medicinal properties.
The Escutcheon itself has a vert tincture field representing the life and the trees of Port Hadley (Port Hadley likes its trees...) and upon this the charge is a tree bearing fruit which is representative of the cultural and material wealth of the Hadleys.
Above this sits the Star of India, representative of the roots of the nation in British India, and also the Lion which is representative of Sri Lanka and its heritage.
Capital
Port Hadley
Port Hadley is located on the west Coast of Ceylon and is the English name that was given to the settlement that was already present (Colombo). The Port is a bustling hub of trade and commerce since, during the years of Company Rule in India, it was the chiefest port of the Sub-Continent exporting out to Europe. From here all sorts of goods such as Teas and Spices were packed onto ships in the bustling port to be sent out to places as far away as Stockholm and Quebec.
History:
The Free Duchy is a relatively young nation, however its history dates back to 1788 when the British Government took over control of the Island of Ceylon from the Dutch. The daring invasion was lead by the cunning politician Norman Hadley and his more Militant Brother Norman. Together they managed to wrest control of the Island out of the dutch fingers and into the safe hands of the British Empire. Following the victory the King offered the Hadley Brothers positions high up in British politics, both were offered seats on the House of Lords and Norman was also offered a position in the British military. However neither of the Brother's really saw this as what they wanted to do.
At the time the British holdings in India were managed under the company rule of the British East India Company. This organisation had a military and political landscape all to itself and operated outside of the influence of home politics. Norman Hadley was especial tempted by this offer and so accepted a place that they company offered him as general of one of their armies. Norman used his influence in Britain to similar ends and appointed himself as the Governor General of Ceylon. One of his first decisions from this position was to rename the Port of Colombo to Port Hadley.
Here the two Brothers went their separate ways. Norman signed on with the Company's army based in Burma and went on to have a successful carer there. He died as a wealthy and happy man on the 8th May 1811.
Norman on the other hand began to carve out his own little colonial Empire. He started by buying large estates on Ceylon and he soon had a large network on tenants and plantations. He Built large mansions for himself and his already growing family. He used his influence in various nations to ensure that traders made Port Hadley their first port of call when they wanted to deal with British India. By 1800 he was the richest man in the world and had built several palaces throughout the Indies.
But not all of his ambition lay in wealth. For many years he had been plotting and conspiring with Groups on India to bring an end to the Company rule and to establish complete autonomy from the British Empire. He worked meticulously with other Indian separatist groups to covertly topple the East India Company and through their acts of dissent and his actions taken to ensure that the company was a Bureaucratic Mess they soon managed just that. On the 19th October 1812 a minor worker's strike in Mysore that was put down by use of force resulted into a full blown revolution. India threw off the oppression of the the Company Rule and although it managed to hold onto its strongholds in Bangladesh and Burma the rest of the country was thrown back into the hands of the Indians.
Norman, of course, held the opinion that he would be a much better ruler than they ever would and so he mobilised his small private army and declared the independence of all his territorial assets throughout Ceylon and the eastern coast of India. He declared the creation of Port Hadley as its own nation and rightful successor to the Company Rule.
Over the next few years he secured his position in India and continued building for prosperity and affluence in his nation. Under his rule working conditions improved and he created a welfare system to support the workers that fueled his still booming trade empire.
And booming it was; before the fall of Company Rule Port Hadley had been a major port but still had to compete with other Company ports many of which had better access to the resources continued withing continental India, however now that the Company had collapsed Port Hadley represented the only Indian port currently held by a stable and European Friendly nation. Soon he found his county becoming even richer.
Despite all his wealth his health started weakening and by 1814 he could barely move from his bed. His Daughter Elizabeth Hadley (Lady Beth Hadley) now manages all the administrative tasks.
Government
The Government of The Gentlemen's Free Duchy of Port Hadley is effectively a constitutional monarchy ruled by the Hadley Family (Though Due to Lord Norman's ill health his daughter Lady Beth has assumed leadership of the nation). There is also the Gentlemen's Council of Port Hadley which represent the interests of the Landed Gentry and Nobility of the nation.
Government Policy
The Government policy is almost always decided by the Lady Beth and thus changes as her mind does. The Gentlemen's Council is general seen as a bureaucratic and inefficient nightmarish body and not much is done by them (It is speculated that their disorganisation is the result of one of Norman Hadley's ploys).
The Hadley Family does maintain a large welfare scheme along with a large cultural program of music, literature and poetry sponsored by the Lady Beth. The government also has a largely interventionist foreign policy and relies greatly on its history of trading with Europe.
The Government also owns its own trade fleet that operates out of Port Hadley and imposes huge taxes and docking costs on any traders that trade through the Duchy. This is especially infuriating because there is little competition on the government's monopoly on Indian goods.
Culture
Despite its location Port Hadley retains a large amount of European culture especially when it comes to the arts and sciences however the Sri Lankan influence on the commoners is great and though the Upper classes may live largely European lifestyles the lower classes tend to have a more traditional Sri Lankan outlook. There is very little left of the Dutch or Portuguese influence left as far as language is concerned and the main language spoken in English although once again the commoners do often speak in their natives tongues and/or dialects.
The nation has a very Rider Haggard/Rudyard Kipling feel to it.
Religion
Once again there is a large class divide with the upper class mostly Christians wheras the lower classes mostly Buddhist, Hindu or Islamic although a significant proportion of the lower classes are also immigrants or converted making a significant proportion christian too.
Factions
The Hadley Family: The most prominent factor in internal politics is the Hadley Family which has a large control over the running of the nation. It has very interventionist policies, maintains a tight grip on trade with a large state owned trade fleet and also supports greater welfare (to the extent of being seen as socialist by many other nations) however ever since the Lady Beth became leader of the Family there has been even more emphasis on the arts and many of the family's newer policies have a more romanticised outlook.
Out of the Three parties the Hadleys are the most well respected throughout all classes. The only enemies they really have are Traders who despise the huge tariffs on trade.
The Gentlemen's Council: The most Bureaucratic faction, the council is slightly less interventionist than the Family and it has much less of a focus on welfare and cares little for the demands of the less well off. The council is also likely to be a lot more practical than the Family and will place much more focus on industry rather than the arts.
The Council is supported most by the Landed Gentry, especially those with ambitions of one day achieving greatness above that the Hadley's although most member of the council themselves are in support of the Family and the general sentiment is positive.
The British East India Company: The remnant of the company. This faction only has the support of a certain few merchants and others who would like to see a downfall to both the Hadleys and the Gentlemen's Council. The Company was Directly responsible for British expansion into the indies during the 17th and 18th centuries and its current goals are to regain that stature by bringing down an end to the duchy and the family that runs it.
Though there supporting group in the Duchy is small they are all wealthy merchants who have contacts throughout the globe and many of them with other trading nations and even royalty of other nations. They also show an utter contempt for the Hadley Family and many of the Indians and Sri Lankans see Company Rule as something best left in the past. Thus they have little sympathy from others.
(In the First post you do say up to 3 so I presume 2 is alright)
Color: The Main Green from the Flag
MoreEpicThanYou
The most Epic.
Name fixed.
Robert Can't
Éponine
Ceylon and Hyderabad?
Also you seem to have an unnamed province above Hyderabad.
Also you seem to have an unnamed province above Hyderabad.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
Then i will claim a random chinese province.
Let's call it "Malwa"
SouthernKing only specified "southernmost Indian province", so I guess you can have Hyderabad.
GM Ruling:
Vijayanagar (SouthernKing): Madras, Mysore, Bombay
Port Hadley (Robert Can't): Ceylon and Hyderabad
Mongolia (christos200): Mongolia, Suiyuan and Baikal.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
Sorry Robert.
TK, that unnamed province above Hyderabad, I'd recommend you name it either Orissa, Bastar, or Gondwana.
TK, that unnamed province above Hyderabad, I'd recommend you name it either Orissa, Bastar, or Gondwana.
Robert Can't
Éponine
No worries, Sorry I didn't notice your nation. I was too busy writing up my own to notice new posts to the thread.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
Well...I didn't notice this until after I had edited.
The problem is that the city of Vijayanagara itself is in the map province that is Hyderabad.
Robert Can't
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