Iron Pen 3: Pirates! - Stories, Comments, and Voting

Iron Pen Challenge 3: Onan vs. Mystery Person

  • Onan: A (5 pts.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Onan: B (4 pts.)

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Onan: C (3 pts.)

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Onan: D (2 pts.)

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Onan: F (1 pt.)

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Mystery Person: A (5 pts.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mystery Person: B (4 pts.)

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Mystery Person: C (3 pts.)

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Mystery Person: D (2 pts.)

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Mystery Person: F (1 pt.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .

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CFC's latest Iron Pen Competitors have now finished their stories and are eagerly awaiting your comments and the outcome of the voting!

Please welcome the competitors for this challenge: Iron Pen Onan and Iron Pen Mystery Person, who have both submitted entries incorporating the mystery theme PIRATES!. :)


Today is September 19, which is "International Talk Like A Pirate Day." On this popular internet holiday, people all across cyberspace celebrate these colorful rogues, which is why "Pirates!" is this round's Mystery Theme. So please join our two Iron Pen authors as they offer their own stories of villainy on the high seas and coastal areas.


Comments/critiques: Please keep in mind that the main objective of Iron Pen is to give the writers constructive feedback on their stories. Please say why you liked or didn't like the stories. What changes would you suggest, if any? If you were writing a story on this theme, would you have done so similarly to the way the two current competitors have, or would you take another approach entirely?


Judging:

When judging, you may wish to consider these criteria, among any other personal preferences you might have:

Length. Did the story meet the minimum required length? Did it exceed the maximum length? This requirement is meant partially as a way to keep the competition fair, as it's harder to judge fairly if one story is (for example) 2000 words and the other only 500 words. Also, if a writer wants to submit stories professionally, there will be length restrictions involved in that. It never hurts to start practicing writing to meet specified requirements.

*Note: Both stories in this competition have met the minimum/maximum word counts.

Mechanics. This is a “presentation” criterion. A story that is good in terms of plot, characters, and theme may have typos, formatting errors, etc. which can distract the reader. No matter if the story is written for recreation or for professional submission, proofreading matters.

Characterization: Do you think the characters are believable? Has the author succeeded in making the reader care what happens to them?

Secret Theme: Do you think the author used the theme effectively?

Entertainment: This is the major criterion. The main goal of any story is to entertain the reader and provide an interesting reading experience. Do you think the author succeeded in doing this?


Voting: The voting/scoring is explained below, after the second story.


And now, on with the stories!

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Days of the Turk

by Iron Pen Onan​


The bells keep ringing. Brother Mattias is tireless in his efforts, even though everyone is by now safe inside the fortified monastery or has gone inland. The Turks know better than to approach the walls, but they will no doubt burn some houses, wreck some ships and plunder whatever they find. Then, silence. Brother Mattias lays on the ground with his arms spread, such has been his effort to warn everyone of the pirates’ arrival. Atop the watchtower Brother Jachiam, with a bow in his hand, watches the Turkish galleys approach. For some time the rumours of the sea reach his ears, and he thinks he can hear the oars clashing against the waves, the orders, the whistling of the whip before it hits. One of the ships runs aground, the others halt and drop anchors and boats. In an hour, the Berbers have loaded their boats, set fire to the town and caught a few people who didn’t hide well or far enough. The creaking flames occasionally subdue the shrieks of people dragged over.

Now the ship rises and falls in a worsening sea. The Barbary Coast is in sight and nearby. The first drops fall as the boats are returning to continue disembarking the troops. Most of the men make it ashore before the storm makes it impossible to continue. The beach is deserted, and the army quickly sets to take a village not far inland for better refuge. Jachiam Mureda leads a company in vanguard, reaching the dim-lit town first. Such is the surprise that there is no resistance to eviction. Houses are requisitioned for army use, the villagers crammed in a single building. Some of then protest, but the soldiers have their way with them and no more noises come. The night is peaceful and the raining subsides. Only two ships snapped off their anchors and were thrown ashore, the hundred-ship strong fleet still afloat. The thick of the army will be disembarking today. Meanwhile, Jachiam leads his company to the pirate base. The sun signals the way to Algiers grading the sky red to a soft yellow. The men grudgingly advance on foot; so do their commanders. The few animals that yet made it off the ships are to carry the artillery. The first sight of the walled port itself is dyed by the slant orange of a full yet still rising sun, as a foreboding of the carnage to come. Whose, it will soon be known.

Once more, the bells ring as they rang every Sunday. Less frantically than the dreaded day, they call the people not to run but to meet in the house of the Lord. No galleys, no fending oars, no sails; only the deep blue sea, the bright blue sky, a lonely cloud and the disc of the sun finally emerging from the cliff-ending mountains closing the bay on the east. It is a hot and glorious day, and Brother Mattias keeps tugging the rope calmly and securely. The crowd closes in, among them a scarred, rough, horse-riding stranger. During the mass he is the centre of attention, yet nobody recognises him. After the mass, the people flock outside and, seeing as he remains praying in the church, debate, discusse, and gossip about him. In full clothing, he is grateful for the coolness of the stones, and waits patiently for the confessor to come. Father Jachiam enters the booth and, diligent yet calm, peacefully deliberate, the stranger confesses to his sins. He wonders whether the Turk deserves salvation and whether he has condemned his soul in the war. Father Jachiam absolves him of his sins, and Jachiam Mureda emerges into his hometown an avenged soul.


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The evil of the pirate

by Iron Pen Mystery Person​


The imprint of a palm of a hand burned on Philip's cheek and laboriously dragged him back to consciousness. Someone had just slapped him, it slowly dawned on him.

“Heee...” he had a try at what was supposed to be an indignant “Hey!”, while his mind struggled to find its way out of the haze of rum and sleep inertia. His eyes finished their turn back to the world and Philip grew aware that someone was standing near him. As his sight composed itself, it arranged the face of his first man, Derek, towering above him and looking at him with glaring anger. Did that bugger just hit me? Philip thought, this time with much more sturdy indignation.

“You have done it.” Derek said and slapped him once more. “You damned us all, captain

A large part of Philip's mind still refused to show up for work, but his sense of propriety at least peeked forth from beneath its bedspread and invoked that being repeatedly assaulted by a subordinate required an immediate response.

“How dare you?” Philip said.

“What I dare, is to say that this is all your fault! After all, it was your course and you talked us into it, captain sir!”

“What are you talking about for God's sake?” Philip shouted as a common fear among pirate captains took hold of him and got his fluids finally flowing – the fear of mutiny.

“I'll show you” Derek seized Philip by the shoulders and forced him to the window of the captain's cabin. “Look!” he said and pointed to the horizon above the ocean.

If Philip had been sober, or at least more sober, the realization of what Derek meant may have hit him like a blow to the chin. But as it was, it hit him more like the faeces of a seagull, where the disbelieve and horror of what had just happened only slowly unfolds until you got your finger right in it.

There were two ships to be seen at the horizon.

“Telescope” Philip said.

“Another slap is what you can have! For your information: Those are two seven-sailers bearing the seal of the royal fleet. And on those ships there is a lot of lead as well as corresponding appliances to make us all closely familiar with it.”

“Seven-sailers..." mumbled Philip while using a telescope he got himself. "You are right... They are easily twice as fast as we are.”

“Ay!”

As Philip seemed to settle on starring open-mouthed at the ships for an undetermined amount of time, Derek added “Well, captain?”

“Frell”

“Anything else?”

Philip sighed painfully and said “White flag.”

Derek made a bitter and stentorian laugh.

“Are you still that drunk or are you just that chicken-livered? A white flag on a pirate ship... Well about that they will be happy. Right before they will imprison us, which in turn will be right before they will properly torture us to death.”

"We have no choice. Those are fully staffed seven-sailers of the royal armada. For the wretch of a ship we have it is impossible to out-run them and certainly impossible to fight and beat them. Maybe we can take over a ship of theirs later on if we capitulate now or they are in the mood for long-term prisoners and we get to the mainland or something. I don't know, I am just saying that if there is a chance, it is in capitulating.”

“Don't kid yourself."

"It is all we got!"

"Before I do that I'll take some of them down with me.” Derek said solemnly.


Ultimately, they hoisted the white flag. The fish was known to be an unappreciative audience of heroic deaths. They abased the canvas and for the sake of a better impression divested themselves of suspiciously pirately items such as ear rings, ideographs of skulls, eye patches and a wooden leg (even though the last one only under the protest and selfish incomprehension of its owner).


A few hours later, Philip was observing how the royal soldiers forced Derek to eat his own eye balls. While doing so, Philip made the discovery that even though to have to vomit out of such horror and disgust provided no pleasure in deed, way too much, way too cheap rum still was what sits the heaviest on someone's stomach. It filled him with a bit of pride that he already did worse things to himself than they ever could. Then he soiled himself much to his surprise, since he had been certain to already have done so to all the extend humanly possible.

Eventually, after Derek was done, Philip himself was finally approached by the executioner. His crimes would now be declared. He found solace in the thought that his shame would at least not be spoken out loud on land.

“Pirate! I lack the breath to sufficiently describe your wickedness. But hereby you and all other attendees shall hear your three main sins, which makes you the scum, the pirate, you are and which only knows justice in agony and death.

Firstly: Betrayal of God and his sense of justice bestowed to men, according to which each man may only possess of others what they have freely allowed him to have, with the exception of God's agents on earth: the crown and the church and money.

Secondly: Betrayal of the foundations of social order, without which the world would descend into chaos. Above all: you get nothing for free but death!

Thirdly: Degradation of the artist down to your own level, by betrayal of the artist's right to forever earn money with a single instance of work.”

“But”, Philip sobbed, “I did not hurt nobody.”

“Yes you did, pirate. Very deeply, on the inside. Right here.” the executioner said and pointed to his wallet. Then he chopped off Philip's head.

Swine, he thought as he passed on to the next prisoner.


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Voting:

How this works: This is an anonymous, multiple-choice poll. Please vote for one choice for each contestant. That's 2 votes in all. VBulletin isn't set up for multiple questions within the same poll, so this is the only way to do this without having separate threads for each story.


The poll choices represent scores from 1-5 points, on a scale of how well you think the story met the judging guidelines outlined above.

A = 5 points
B = 4 points
C = 3 points
D = 2 points
F = 1 point

How the scoring works is that the totals for each grade will be added up and used to arrive at an overall score. It is possible for a tie to happen, and if it does, I will not be casting a tie-breaking vote.

Please do not vote more than twice, as that would result in unbalanced (and unfair) votes.


Please take the time to offer comments and constructive feedback, as well as voting. The people who compete in these contests work hard on their stories, and appreciate knowing what readers think of them.
 
Now, I think I have an idea on who Mystery Person is. I'm like 70% sure, but I could be wrong. As for the stories, his is by and large the best. It's traditional and plays with traditional pirate types and stereotypes, getting some good mileage out of it. It's light to read and somewhat fun, although a few bits here and there are a bit off. Specifically the whole gory ending seems misplaced. As nonchalantly as it is described, the tone contrasts perhaps too heavily with the rest of the story. A 'happy' ending in which the pirates merely get away could have been more appropriate.

As for Onan's piece, the format itself makes it kind of hard to read. On these forums, moderately long paragraphs look so solid one already doesn't feel like reading it. Now this is a very different kind of story. I think everybody had in mind the Caribbean pirates, so the change might have been an interesting one. It was clearly woven into the narrative, but it's only as a residue, the story itself is heavily fragmented making things hard to follow. I don't know what to make of the final twist. As said, it is somewhat interesting, but it's all so block-built and disperse... It'd be better if it were more focused.

All in all, vastly different writings. A traditional well-written pirate story with perhaps an inappropriate ending versus a less conventional narrative in a completely different mood and setting. Hardly comparable, but that's the game and I choose "The Evil of the Pirate".
 
Days of the Turks

I found the first story interesting, but I had to invest too much effort into doing so. I'll explain as I go along.
Brother Mattias lays on the ground with his arms spread, such has been his effort to warn everyone of the pirates’ arrival.
Here I got confused. It isn't clear to me how the main and sub clause are causally connected.
For some time the rumours of the sea reach his ears
Is English your second language? I think you wanted to describe a sound in this instance, but a rumour is just an abstract concept and I can't picture a sound based on it.

In general the first paragraph gave me some trouble, because so much was happening on such a grand scale and I felt a bit lost. I think the issue is that you did not assume a tangible perspective of things. Usually, even an omniscient narrator holds a perspective one in principle could see an actually being actually holding. Imagine it like a camera angle. But here I did not know where the narrator was coming from. He jumped from here to there and it lacked this tangible perspective pulling it all together.

Yet, I also wanted to know where this grand drama leads to, so this is good :)

worsening sea.
I don't think this works. The sea doesn't worsen, the state of the sea does. The chop or whatever.
The first sight of the walled port itself is dyed by the slant orange of a full yet still rising sun, as a foreboding of the carnage to come. Whose, it will soon be known.
Gave me a bit of a chill. Cool :)
In general the second paragraph feels more focused and more easy to follow. But it became harder for me again in the last paragraph and I confess I did not know what was going after having read the third one and I felt so detached that I also did not care anymore :/

You know a while ago I wrote a short story I posted on here - and it had very similar issues as yours. Hard to follow, not focused enough. It really is a process to learn as a writer how much you need to consider that a different reader will be totally new to the little world you just have created with your words and that it is really easy to loose him or her when leading him or her through it. At least when doing short stories.

Oneself often only really grows aware of how hard or easy it is to follow after some time has passed - or due to sharpening ones sense for it. But that one really needs work and a self-critical open mind.

It seems almost like such a sense is unnatural and can only be earned by defeating nature.

Unless you just have a simple narration style. But who wants to be simple? We all want to be great, not simple, don't we? ;) But just there the trap lies, especially in short stories where all has to be so condensed.

The Evil of the Pirate

First, what Johanna said.
Maybe be a bit more careful with the picturesque language / describing what is going inside the characters than you were in the beginning. It wasn't half-bad, but I think you may have been a tiny bit too fond of your illustrative skillz and a bit more simpleness would have worked a bit better there. But then that wasn't an issue as the story progressed, just the introductory part.

The last part doesn't feel well connected to the rest of the story. As Johanna already posted in the previous Iron Pen competition, a continuous tone is important.
However,
It's traditional and plays with traditional pirate types and stereotypes
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the last part is about Internet piracy. Take another look at the "sins", most of all the third one.
 
I hadn't thought about that. It's quite weird then.
 
Internet piracy.
Normally I stay out of the comments portion of these competitions (though I will offer private comments via PM if the authors ask)... but I do have to say that because of the board rules regarding discussion of internet/software piracy, I'm really glad that neither author chose to interpret the theme that way.
 
Once I made a joke about it and got a 3 point infraction.
 
My point is that I deliberately choose themes that can be interpreted in a wide variety of ways, and am just happy that nobody chose to write a story about internet piracy (as in a character engaging in it).

And since the stories didn't go there, I hope that any further discussion here is about the stories that were actually written. :)
 
I joked about pirating something, a mod took it the wrong way, I tried to discuss it with him but he wasn't open to interpretations, so I let it slide.
 
Days of the Turk

by Iron Pen Onan

I think that the imagery on this is good. It's easy to imagine the scene. But there's something of a problem with the point of view. It doesn't seem consistent. At first it appears to be Brother Mattias, and later to someone watching the pirate fleet, and then Brother Mattias again. Keeping the point of view constant, or at least making it clear where there is a deliberate change, is I think a good writing practice and makes it more readable and looks more professional. Also, there's no explanation for the switch to calling them Turks to calling them Berbers, which were 2 distinctly different peoples. So consistency is needed there.



The evil of the pirate

by Iron Pen Mystery Person

Explaining the situation through dialog is a pretty good device. But you need to consider the voice of the characters, and have the voice of the characters be in character! In this story the wording used by the characters is more the wording I'd expect a couple of college professors, particularly snooty and stuck up college English professors at that, to be using. Not pirates. Not that pirates can't have an education, but in that era it wasn't the least bit likely. And even if they did, people don't talk that way. Or, I should say, it doesn't seem like people in that situation really would talk that way.
 
Hmmm. Very interesting entries, and I like them about equally, not least in their contrast of styles and strengths. The difference between either and professional quality is little but a fairly light line-edit by a second set of eyes to punch up the grammar and phrasing JUST a little, mostly for clarity.

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Days of the Turk by Iron Pen Onan has a real beauty of words - "The bells keep ringing." It's rich with evocative phrasing, not florid like a writer trying to show off -which can be annoying even when done well, and can ruin an opening to a story- but short and direct, showing a real command of the poetry of language without overdoing it.

Its weakness, and it could be part of the author's design and I'm wrong, is that I don't know how the action of the second paragraph relates to the first, or how exactly the resolution relates to the previous two - some monk names -monks frequently don't go by birth names- are no help as to getting a sense of where the Turkish pirates are attacking, though the third paragraph implies that Turks are ethnically different enough to stand out in church - that, or he was a stranger in a small town. I can't tell from the story. I don't know why there's a Brother Jachiam in the first paragraph, and whether he is the Father Jachiam acting as priest in the third, or why he, or they, share a name with Jachiam Mureda and what that might mean.

Figure out how you want to address those concerns, and consider breaking it up into a LOT more short paragraphs (a "..." before and after to indicate a break/change of scene for the middle passage will do, if I read correctly that that's what happened) to improve how the good -if a bit confusing- prose scans, and you've got something here. You have talent.

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The evil of the pirate by Iron Pen Mystery Person is an honest-to-goodness straightforward story that works as a story, with the standard third person story mix of dialogue and narration. This is a lot harder to do than it looks -not least in so short a work- which is probably one reason less-experienced writers tend to go with first person.

Good mastery of the basic structure, not excluding breaking it down into very short paragraphs right.

The problem? I don't believe in most of it. A royal navy that feeds a prisoner who surrenders his eyeballs, yet has a reputation such that pirates bother to surrender? I would have thought hardly a body on a pirate ship wouldn't figure a quick death fighting was better than hanging within days of reaching land. -Maybe this is ignorance of history on my part, but I thought it was land, a judge and hanging, not summary shipboard torture-executions. That's a royal navy that is DEFINITELY going to not see a lot of surrenders in the future. If there were special circumstances to make them mad for brutal revenge against the pirates, a line or two setting that up belonged in the narrative.

I also don't believe in the executioner's speech -an officer would have made it, anyway, while ratings did the actual executing- and you left out a good closing line, with Philip realizing, as the (ax? sword? why didn't they just hang?) descended, that the fish of the seas were no respecters of men who died on their knees, either.

I assume there was something going on that just sailed right past me, with the wallet and all - and maybe there's what kept the rest from working better.

As I said with the other story, come up with a good way to address these issues, and you've got something. There's some real craft to what's already there.

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To underline - it's really tough to walk the line and keep the right perspective on your own work as you edit it and do drafts; a second set of eyes -should they belong to a good enough writer- can be a pearl beyond price. I've avoided reading the rest of the thread until I read the stories and formed my own reactions, but I couldn't help noticing that some of the others offer some specific points about word choices before I looked away. The aggregate of all our comments on the stories might go a very long way towards providing those second-eye perspectives.

Personally (and it depends on the temperament of the artist whose work is being discussed whether they take it how I mean it - I apologize if my attempt to help and display interest stings) the more I dig in to ripping a work to shreds in a critique, the better I liked it, honest. These stories are both very worth some vicious savaging, and I'm going to vote a tie, if the poll allows that. :goodjob:
 
Ties are possible, and since I have to maintain strict neutrality (no favoritism from the host!), I don't cast any tie-breaking votes.

If a tie occurs we can either let it sit there, or the authors can have a "write-off" tie-breaker contest if they want.
 
I'd love to see subsequent drafts of these two.

I notice "This poll will close on Sep 26, 2015 at 07:11 PM", so I guess there's not really a deadline for comments on the stories, but time's getting short to participate in the intended spirit of Iron Pen...
 
The first story was confusing and didn't pull me in at all.

The writing style of the second story was more gripping and managed to keep me interested until the end.

:) Thanks to both authors for participating, and Valka for organizing.
 
Days of Turk:
I'd say the writing of this one is technically better than that of the second one in that it feels more poetic. However, this story jumps around too much without appropriate transitions. I can't get a feel for it, and so it kind of turns me off.
3.5/5 which I will probably round down to a 3/5

The Evil of the Pirate:
I like this one a lot. The satire in here is particularly biting for its length, and while it isn't the smartest out there, it's still readable. However, I didn't enjoy Phillip and Derek's conversation and the execution scene while I still enjoyed it to some extent felt very surreal and therefore unbelievable. I think part of my problem is that the story doesn't seem to have a consistent tone. I'd give it a 4/5
 
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