Is Being Gay a Choice, Not a Choice, or both.

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

A penis is like a compass needle...

The North and South are just painted over reading Girls and Guys

It just depends which one you write over North.

 

[scherbchen]

imho it is predisposition for some and acquired taste (rather than choice, though that of course is possible) for others.

but in then end, does it matter? or was that debate concerned with legal issues such as same sex marriages?

 

[Kraznaya]

Anyway you want to look at it I think its fairly evident that there are far more than 260 million people who are gay on Earth. I mean gay isnt something new.

Really? Find me 260 million admitted gays. And from the available scientific data , it should be HIGHER, because of the 33% rule.

 

[scherbchen]

Really? Find me 260 million admitted gays. And from the available scientific data , it should be HIGHER, because of the 33% rule.

Germany alone is often reported to have 1,5 million who are attracted to their own sex and we are tiny (uhm, 68 million? I forget. 85 after tha fall of the wall? why can't I remember these facts). as far as out-of-the-closet goes, I wouldn't know.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

Then we would have to find the average family size worldwide, and then determine the girl–boy ratio at birth, apply this, then take the girls and guys and apply the two formulas...

Tell me when you're done...

 

[Irish Caesar]

Germany alone is often reported to have 1,5 million who are attracted to their own sex and we are tiny (uhm, 68 million? I forget. 85 after tha fall of the wall? why can't I remember these facts). as far as out-of-the-closet goes, I wouldn't know.

That's only 2% of the population.

 

[skadistic]

Gay love = not choice
Gay sex = choice

Neither is exclusive to the other.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

The rate is random, so that's not all that uncommon.

 

[Mandeville]

Where are you getting that from? 260 million people is probably realistic, unless the formula differs for women.

I think its awfully naive to draw such a narrow line against homosexuals when sexual orientation can truly be fluidic. If our culture was not supportive of homosexuality in the past then it is certainly becoming more so today. Don't you expect these numbers to be proved wrong or become revised?

 

[warpus]

I can't see how I would change what sort of people I'm attracted to, so I'll have to go with "not a choice"

IMO if you can choose whether to be attracted to men or to women, then you're probably bi.

 

[The Yankee]

33%=1/3
Yes, exactly.

Yes, a 33% increase over whatever the odds are for a person without older brothers.

 

[LightFang]

Maybe in your experience, but others have reported otherwise.

Just report? What, so now their urges are uncontrollable, making it better, as opposed to just weak willpower?

 

[Neomega]

It's nto really a choice. Doesn't mean they are born with it, but people cannot usually help their fetishes.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

I think its awfully naive to draw such a narrow line against homosexuals when sexual orientation can truly be fluidic. If our culture was not supportive of homosexuality in the past then it is certainly becoming more so today. Don't you expect these numbers to be proved wrong or become revised?

I never drew a line, I took established facts and created a hypothesis based on those facts. Hypotheses can be wrong from time to time, and mine is no different. Homosexuality was pretty much socially incorrect everywhere a few hundred years ago, but it's been getting better since around 1960 (I think).

 

[GenMarshall]

Both,

They are born eather Homosexual, Heterosexual, or Bi
But they can chose to act upon their impulses.

 

[Neomega]

Both,

They are born eather Homosexual, Heterosexual, or Bi
But they can chose to act upon their impulses.

Impulse? It is a basic human need to want to be loved. Being gay makes it even more urgent, since feeling alone and hopeless is much more likely, seeing how the pool of lifetime mates is much smaller.

 

[Mandeville]

Impulse? It is a basic human need to want to be loved. Being gay makes it even more urgent, since feeling alone and hopeless is much more likely, seeing how the pool of lifetime mates is much smaller.

Wouldn't it be proportionate? Also why would a gay person be looking for a lifetime mate? And in that case, why would a straight person be looking for a lifetime mate? Do you believe that unmarried people are unhappy? Also, why would a gay person or a straight person want to be married?

 

[The Yankee]

Wouldn't it be proportionate? Also why would a Gay person be looking for a lifetime mate?

To spend a life with?

 

[Neomega]

Wouldn't it be proportionate?

wouldn't what be proportionate?

Also why would a Gay person be looking for a lifetime mate?

Somebody to cry with when a parent dies. Somebody to have next to your deathbed to tell you you were worth something. All that basic human want and need jazz.

 

[robo-snickers]

im not gay
but ill choose to be gay for you
bet that made you feel special didnt it