Is Democracy still effective?

[Ecofarm]

Yea, right. A big red hand is cooler than tater-tots in a paper bowl with powerful ketchup. As if.

 

[philippe]

Yea, right. A big red hand is cooler than tater-tots in a paper bowl with powerful ketchup. As if.

If it can work for the Ulstermen and Isengard, it can work for you too.

Stop being so non-conformist.

History will bury you.

 

[Ecofarm]

If it can work for the Ulstermen and Isengard, it can work for you too.

Stop being so non-conformist.

History will bury you.

1) Just because something worked before does not mean it does now. For example: the Koran.

2) Non-conformist? We're talking tater-tots here. They bring us all together (cept animies and nazis).

3) Nah, I live forever even when noone remembers.

 

[Shekwan]

Hold on a second Isengard uses the red hand of Ulster?!

 

[philippe]

Hold on a second Isengard uses the red hand of Ulster?!

yeah, that white was just to make it more stylish with the black gear and it was upside down so the Uruk-Hais can look at it.

1) Just because something worked before does not mean it does now. For example: the Koran.

2) Non-conformist? We're talking tater-tots here. They bring us all together (cept animies and nazis).

3) Nah, I live forever even when noone remembers.

1) the Koran still works fine. it's pockethandy, with many soft,absorbant pages.
2) equatism detected: animies =/ nazies

3: Hah, if ecofarm dies in the woods and his last breath was not heard, did he really die?

 

[Ecofarm]

2) equatism detected: animies =/ nazies

3: Hah, if ecofarm dies in the woods and his last breath was not heard, did he really die?

B) Not equal. Nazis are immeasurably worse but animes are also intolerable.

d) My point. We've all affected each other (perhaps only in in some undetectable manner) and there is no changing that. It is our soul and it will never die, so is existence. See you in heaven (where there is no stupid anime).

 

[philippe]

B) Not equal. Nazis are immeasurably worse but animes are also intolerable.

d) My point. We've all affected each other (perhaps only in in some undetectable manner) and there is no changing that. It is our soul and it will never die, so is existence. See you in heaven (where there is no stupid anime).

B: after all, you started the equationism(and I'll drop that in on the Fawlty towers way)

D?: There is no heaven. There is no "soul" as entity. I'll be watching whatever I want when you are dead. (but then you won't be bothered about it, though )

 

[Ecofarm]

B: after all, you started the equationism(and I'll drop that in on the Fawlty towers way)

D?: There is no heaven. There is no "soul" as entity. I'll be watching whatever I want when you are dead. (but then you won't be bothered about it, though )

e) Just because I exclude two groups does not mean they are equal. I never said they were the same, you did - you're the equatist.

5) Heaven is the future. The soul is our influence. You'll know when I'm there and when noone remembers, I still remain.

 

[aelf]

There has been no better experiment in free market vs. central planning (or democracy vs. command) than East and West Germany. When that wall fell, it was clear which system was superior. Two sides separated which started from the same base...

The Communist Manifesto is a better ideological rant than this.

You can't just throw the word 'representative' in front. Democracy is used as a buzz word. Jefferson would be proud.

The United States, Brazil, Germany, and France are republics.

Japan, the United Kingdom*, and the Netherlands are constitutional monarchies.

When asked, people claim they are democracies. I know they do, but since when was the majority always right? Democracy had been historically majority rule. When something quakes like a duck, moves like a duck, and looks like a duck, don't call it a feathered democracy.

*The United Kingdom does have the weakest separation of powers, making it closest to a democracy, but it is still not one. Far from it.

Please define your concept of democracy. You don't seem to know what it means in general.

Off the top of my head, democracy is where there is universal sufferage, as well as checks and balances to ensure to a large extent that free and fair elections are held and that power is not abused. Whatever form of democracy a state has, it is democratic if it fulfils these conditions. And tyranny of the majority is not a defining characteristic of democracy, though it is arguably an inherent problem.

 

[Zarn]

Please define your concept of democracy. You don't seem to know what it means in general.

Off the top of my head, democracy is where there is universal sufferage, as well as checks and balances to ensure to a large extent that free and fair elections are held and that power is not abused. Whatever form of democracy a state has, it is democratic if it fulfils these conditions. And tyranny of the majority is not a defining characteristic of democracy, though it is arguably an inherent problem.

I do not have my own concept of democracy. I have the concept. If there are any checks and balances, it is not a democracy.

 

[aelf]

I do not have my own concept of democracy. I have the concept. If there are any checks and balances, it is not a democracy.

You must be joking. You don't acknowledge the Aristotelian meaning, yet you make that claim. What's more, you claim that you have the concept of democracy. All that is just too silly to be true.

 

[Zarn]

You must be joking. You don't acknowledge the Aristotelian meaning, yet you make that claim. What's more, you claim that you have the concept of democracy. All that is just too silly to be true.

I acknowledge what democracy actually is. It is the rule of the many.

No one should rule. Everyone needs to be checked.

 

[aelf]

I acknowledge what democracy actually is. It is the rule of the many.

No one should rule. Everyone needs to be checked.

Okay. I'm not going to debate on this because it would result in nothing. I only recommend that you do more reading on politics. Political education was once thought of as crucial for a citizen to execute his role properly. No harm in thinking that way today.

 

[Zarn]

Okay. I'm not going to debate on this because it would result in nothing. I only recommend that you do more reading on politics. Political education was once thought of as crucial for a citizen to execute his role properly. No harm in thinking that way today.

I have political education.

 

[aelf]

I have political education.

Congratulations, then. I beg to differ, but I won't change your opinions anyway, as your curt replies reveal your deep faith in them.

 

[Rambuchan]

Is this supposed to be a joke?

I think it's a demonstration of "being careful with your data".

 

[JohnRM]

I don't know. I've never lived in a democracy. I live in a Republic.

 

[Richard Cribb]

I think it's a demonstration of "being careful with your data".

Or rather that those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat class.

 

[aelf]

Socialism means keeping people poor. And that is not my concept of socialism. I have the concept of socialism.

And I have political education.

 

[Zarn]

Socialism means keeping people poor. And that is not my concept of socialism. I have the concept of socialism.

And I have political education.

Mock me all you want, I am still right.