Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Squonk, Oct 5, 2019.
Are you alright? Nothing tf said was racist.
Of course not, he's just assuming others are naturally racist. Classical unconscious projection, mixed with a little reaction formation for disgust effect
You can certainly make the case that Republicans are naturally racist or are okay with racism, since they continue to vote for a racist party. Do you disagree?
I mean, it's the racist right that insists people are "naturally" racist.
I feel you could more fully communicate the spirit of this opinion if it was presented in the format of a Minions meme.
Mmmhmmmm so you think everything Manfred and TheMe are saying is bunk? Or you still believe that guy is really fast because if his race?
Guess the pygmies missed out on the all the benefits of winning marathons their black race provides them.
I like your hope there. I saw the original exchange and the OP is accurately relating what actually was said. That said, the group in question were pretty radical self described communists so I imagine they are much more extreme examples than the general population. That said, at least the primary protagonist spouting utterly racist left wing B.S. (see OP for examples) was indeed a supposed college professor.
If you've encountered people who thought winning a gold medal at Olympics or a Nobel prize can happen without hard work, I suggest you simply ignore their opinion, since they are clearly not very smart. That said, your impression is hardly accurate - for instance, I've seen lots of speculation about why Michael Phelps was so fast in water.
Its not put down to his ethnicity is it?
Lots of speculation about how much help Usain Bolt gets from his Jamaican genes though.
You do realize how absolutely ridiculous this statement is? However, i do think understand the total ignorance you are coming from. The circumstances that is Usain bolt is unique, not some moronic general statistic. He probably has more in common with a unicorn than with a pygmy
The gist of the article is that there are a many small factors that give someone an edge at sprinting - and that luckily for him, lots of those factors happen to be combined in Usain Bolt.
Yes, one of them might be a gene somewhat more common among Jamaicans, but that is different from saying "he is good because he is Jamaican", which would be simply wrong... just like saying "he is the best because he trains harder than anyone else". I'm sure he trains like crazy, but so do his competitors.
The gene in question is almost as common amongst Americans. The point I'm making isn't that his genetic background makes him a better runner, its that a white American athletes ethnic background wouldn't be considered.
75% of Jamaicans and 70% of Americans have that gene but most of them aren't Olympic class sprinters.
It may be rather like a hundred of relevant genes involved, most of people have only 20-50 of them and Usain Bolt has like 90.
Which make, say several hundreds of naturally gifted people like him in the world and he is the only one of them who also "trains like crazy".
That isn't untrue. There's a persistent tendency to attribute the success of star athletes can be attributed to some genetic fluke, and that can sometimes appear to undermine the achievements of these athletes.
But, what's important here is that these are taken as individual characteristic, and are taken to explain the success of outstanding individual athletes, not of groups. The traits that are imagined makes these individual athletes exceptional aren't understood as characteristics of an ethic or racial type, and aren't used to explain the perceived over-representation of that type in a given field. The fact that many runners are black or doctors are Asian is taken to tell us something about blacks and Asian, and implicitly about how those groups contrast to white people, without regard to the fact that most blacks are not runners and most Asians are not doctors, and that the key differentials between any given white person who is not a runner or a doctor, and any given non-white person who is, are going to be individual and not racial or cultural.
But of course. To suggest otherwise would be ludicrous.
Ludicrous, yes, but also commonplace. At least, that's our contention.
When I see wild generalizations like "blacks are better runners" I generally assume the person is not serious (indeed, I've rarely encountered such claims outside troll memes) or is using careless, imprecise language. Maybe I'm being too charitable...
Most things are cultural.
Asians for example it's a difference in how they raise kids.
In the Anglosphere there's a lot of do what you want self discovery type stuff.
China and Japan it's more like you're going to uni and you're going to do well so the expectations are different.
There's pros and cons of both approaches.
Even in Europe there's different cultural expectations say with Norwegians, Germans, Russians, and say the UK.
Some of those countries just lump westerners together as Anglosaxons so there stereotypes will apply to UK, USA, Aussie, NZ, Canada etc.
So you actually don't believe in race realism?
Yes cultural being the new term to espouse the same idea. I'm sure all those billions of Asians working the farms are because if their culture naturally smarter than White American farmers, because, culture.
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