Is it rare to be against physical punishment on kids if I got the belt as a kid myself?

[samsungxoxo]

Abuse is mainly about the level of psychological violence or when physical punishment turns into beating.
A slap or a spank in itself is not abuse when it's proportional and comes without hate, scorn nor indifference. Words alone hurt and mess more when they are accompanied by these.

To be honest I've never heard nor seen anyone slapping or spanking in a calm manner, not that it changes anything since it's still an emotional response when you don't know what else to do. It reflects an inability to control your impulses and lack of cognitive as well as emotional intelligence.
The fact that there are other ways instead of resorting to slapping or spanking as first (and only) resort says it all.
The way I feel about corporal punishment on kids and teens is similar towards my disgust (to the point of feeling nauseous if served that for lunch) towards the food I hate the most, which is pizza.

 

[Akka]

To be honest I've never heard nor seen anyone slapping or spanking in a calm manner, not that it changes anything since it's still an emotional response when you don't know what else to do. It reflects an inability to control your impulses and lack of cognitive as well as emotional intelligence.

You just discovered that people aren't machine, congrats. If you think emotionless machines would make better parents, boy do I have bad news for you.
Also I never spoke about "calmly spanking/slapping", I said that they aren't abuse when they don't come from hate, scorn or indifference. Slapping your kid because he did something dangerous and you've been afraid he would hurt himself is perfectly fine and won't traumatize anyone. That's not in any way comparable to beating him up because he answered back or dirtied his clothing by playing in the mud.

The fact that there are other ways instead of resorting to slapping or spanking as first (and only) resort says it all.

You're making a lot of (stupid) assumptions here, as if someone who spanked his child in some cases would have spanking as first and only answers.
So let's follow your own example and say, the fact that there is less idiotic answers than yours says it all.

The way I feel about corporal punishment on kids and teens is similar towards my disgust (to the point of feeling nauseous if served that for lunch) towards the food I hate the most, which is pizza.

Well, more power to you if you manage to be a perfect model and manage to educate adequately your kid without ever raising your hand on them.
I'm not going to throw people who are fin without being perfect under the bus just because you project your own personal disgust on the world at large, though.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Slapping your kid because he did something dangerous and you've been afraid he would hurt himself is perfectly fine and won't traumatize anyone.

Yes, but.... even that is dependent upon the immediacy of the strike and where one makes it. Once to the butt is likely sufficient if directly connected to the incident and the child is under the age of 4. Beyond that and you have moved into questionable territory.

 

[samsungxoxo]

You just discovered that people aren't machine, congrats. If you think emotionless machines would make better parents, boy do I have bad news for you.
Also I never spoke about "calmly spanking/slapping", I said that they aren't abuse when they don't come from hate, scorn or indifference. Slapping your kid because he did something dangerous and you've been afraid he would hurt himself is perfectly fine and won't traumatize anyone. That's not in any way comparable to beating him up because he answered back or dirtied his clothing by playing in the mud.

You're making a lot of (stupid) assumptions here, as if someone who spanked his child in some cases would have spanking as first and only answers.
So let's follow your own example and say, the fact that there is less idiotic answers than yours says it all.

Well, more power to you if you manage to be a perfect model and manage to educate adequately your kid without ever raising your hand on them.
I'm not going to throw people who are fin without being perfect under the bus just because you project your own personal disgust on the world at large, though.

Whenever it's done out of frustration and taking out your emotions (outburst) on the kid it really loses its purpose. It becomes all about you and your emotions, which in a way can be classified as selfish.
Whenever I hear about a toddler close to doing something dangerous, my first thoughts is where exactly were the parents or adults at that moment, who was watching the child, why are they alone in harm's way. For instance if a toddler is about to grab the hot pot, what is a small child doing in the kitchen??? If a child is about to grab an extension cord, what's it doing laying in the floor within a toddler's reach, why isn't the kid elsewhere where it's safe?
Perhaps it is indeed my personal experience towards spanking that's very hurt even years later. In addiction there were several studies done and none of those researches ever mentioned about benefits about it. All of them claimed it has detrimental effects. At most of it has no damage then it's neutral but never beneficial. Why aren't there studies done that talks about benefits of spanking nor how to make kids smart and develop cognitive fuctions by doing that.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Why aren't there studies done that talks about benefits of spanking nor how to make kids smart and develop cognitive fuctions by doing that.

Because there is no evidence that there is any such path. Family and cultural history that embodies "spare the rod and spoil the child' thinking has to be undone slowly generation by generation because it is so embedded. But we have seen a huge change in attitudes over the past 50 years or so.

 

[Akka]

Whenever it's done out of frustration and taking out your emotions (outburst) on the kid it really loses its purpose. It becomes all about you and your emotions, which in a way can be classified as selfish.
Whenever I hear about a toddler close to doing something dangerous, my first thoughts is where exactly were the parents or adults at that moment, who was watching the child, why are they alone in harm's way. For instance if a toddler is about to grab the hot pot, what is a small child doing in the kitchen??? If a child is about to grab an extension cord, what's it doing laying in the floor within a toddler's reach, why isn't the kid elsewhere where it's safe?
Perhaps it is indeed my personal experience towards spanking that's very hurt even years later. In addiction there were several studies done and none of those researches ever mentioned about benefits about it. All of them claimed it has detrimental effects. At most of it has no damage then it's neutral but never beneficial. Why aren't there studies done that talks about benefits of spanking nor how to make kids smart and develop cognitive fuctions by doing that.

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You just discovered that people aren't machine, congrats. If you think emotionless machines would make better parents, boy do I have bad news for you.

Well, more power to you if you manage to be a perfect model and manage to educate adequately your kid without ever raising your hand on them.
I'm not going to throw people who are fine without being perfect under the bus just because you project your own personal disgust on the world at large, though.