Islam = evil

[warpus]

Some people believe that Islam is inherently evil. I question that, since I don't think I am evil (I can never know, of course, but still) so I wanted to know if, in the case I turned Muslim, I catched the evil fever.

Knowledge by itself can't be evil. It's how you act on that knowledge that allows for the introduction of "evil"

In the case of Islam there are also several lenses of interpretation that people use for context, so it's a bit more complicated than "Is cheese inherently evil?".

It's what you do with the cheese, man.

 

[civver_764]

Islam's main problem is that it never went through a period of Reformation. That's why it feels like it belongs 400 years in the past, and you have 12 year old girls being sentenced to death for burning Koran.

All religions are crap, but Islam really takes the cake.

It's more that culture is being reflected in the religious beliefs of the people partaking in it, not the other way around.

 

[Angst]

Islam's main problem is that it never went through a period of Reformation. That's why it feels like it belongs 400 years in the past, and you have 12 year old girls being sentenced to death for burning Koran.

All religions are crap, but Islam really takes the cake.

So if I convert to Islam, will my mind belong to 400 years in the past?

Do you think that Islamic theological tradition and Islamic political systems haven't changed since then?

 

[Birdjaguar]

So if I convert to Islam, will my mind belong to 400 years in the past?

Do you think that Islamic theological tradition and Islamic political systems haven't changed since then?

Not if you are a Sufi. Sufism is a demonstration that Islam is not fundamentally bad or evil.

 

[AlpsStranger]

I'm actually disappointed in this forum. You guys are way too sensible for this thread.

What did you expect? We weren't exactly going to run around and rant about how we needed to kill all the brown people

 

[timtofly]

I do not think a thread equating Islam with Christianity is getting off to the correct premise.

I see what you did there and object. Then again, I am not on trial here.

 

[Angst]

What did you expect? We weren't exactly going to run around and rant about how we needed to kill all the brown people

Of course not, but some people on this forum state the exact thing that is the premise of the OP so I'm curious why they don't participate.

 

[bhsup]

Of course not, but some people on this forum state the exact thing that is the premise of the OP so I'm curious why they don't participate.

Citation needed, please? I really can't think of anyone off the top of my head who has said Islam is evil.

 

[JollyRoger]

I say it.

 

[Angst]

Citation needed, please? I really can't think of anyone off the top of my head who has said Islam is evil.

Hm. I admit I'll probably not be able to find a quote for that exactly. However, you must remember some traces of ill will towards Muslims or this supposed "Islamic rule" from around these boards? Some undercurrents of ideas believing that simply by supporting Muslims you supported an ideology unfit for good? A few people come to mind to me, but I don't think I'm allowed to refer to people specifically outside the thread. Am I?

Just digging very quickly and superficially through the "religion of peace" thread should give you enough goods to understand my OP, however.

For there are posters in here (And I'm seriously stunned you haven't noticed that) who swoopingly declare Muslims democratically ill-fit due to their faith and that Islam, as a movement, is inherently a bad one.

I probably shouldn't have used the term "evil" specifically in the OP. I guess English speakers differentiate more between evil and assorted negative terms like bad, ill, horrible, wrong, or generally terms opposite to good. Because the idea of denouncing or promoting against Islam must surely root in the idea that Islam is not a good thing. So I used the most direct antithesis to good, being evil.

In Danish, for example, when we say "It hurts", we say "Det gør ondt" which when more directly translated means "It does evil."

Also, in case you didn't get it, my post where I bickered at people for being too reasonable was obviously ironic because I found it nice to see that.

 

[civver_764]

I'll take an army of Muslim apologists over a handful of crusaders.

Dude c'mon that was 800 years ago.

 

[King Kalmah]

I say no.My boss is of that faith and he isn't crazy/evil.Just greedy.

I also talk to my coworkers and one of them is an old man who lived in the region.He hated it because they were always in your face with it.Alsways telling you to obey or that you were sinning.Then he said alot of them(Mullah's he called them) would go home and smoke opium.(he called them hypocrites).Reminds me of the mid west where you find Christianity extremists.

The truth of the matter is that its alot harder over there and it is kind of like going back in time.Sure they have cars and other things like Ipods,but everything else seems to be playing catch up.Even their pop culture used to be like ten years behind America/West before the internet...

 

[Crezth]

kill this thread. burn it to the ground and salt the earth.

 

[King Kalmah]

kill this thread. burn it to the ground and salt the earth.

We need to RENAME this thread...

Healthy discussion is needed for educational purposes...

 

[Angst]

Healthy?

Discussion?

Educational?

Purpose?

 

[Crezth]

There are like half-a-dozen threads already wherein cryptofascists post about how Muslims can never be peaceful or democratic and, somehow, never get infracted for it.

Call me crazy for not being too enthused about a thread whose premise is the validation of that lunacy.

 

[civver_764]

Healthy?

Discussion?

Educational?

Purpose?

???!!

 

[Ajidica]

Islam's main problem is that it never went through a period of Reformation.

You don't know much about the history of Islam, do you?

 

[Crezth]

You don't know much about the history of Islam, do you?

His username is Lord Rahl, it's a safe bet to say that he doesn't know much period.

 

[King Kalmah]

Only one or two jackass have actaully called it evil,but yeah maybe we should sink this ship...

EDIT Crezth your avatar is awesome!(Akira Toriyama/or Milk Chan)