TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Sorry guys,
RL tripped me up this afternoon/evening but I'll get to this first thing in the morning.
Ted
RL tripped me up this afternoon/evening but I'll get to this first thing in the morning.
Ted
JB2 - Neo-Fascists (C3C Deity)
- Thread starter JustBen
- Start date
It appears the Greeks and Aztecs have an ROP rather than an MPP. Additionally, the Aztecs are fighting the Mayans and Americans, so it is a decent time to take the town.
The Aztecs could MA with the Greeks though so we should be careful with our other cities near the Greeks. MA'ing with the Greeks vs the Aztecs would probably spell the doom of the Aztecs which I don't think we want as it would help the Mayans grow.
The Aztecs could MA with the Greeks though so we should be careful with our other cities near the Greeks. MA'ing with the Greeks vs the Aztecs would probably spell the doom of the Aztecs which I don't think we want as it would help the Mayans grow.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
JB2-850AD
Pre-flight checks...
Whoops! Caesarea is about to riot - hire clown
Varna switches from Granary to Temple (already pop 8)
We could buy Physics & MA vs Aztecs from Maya for Ivory, WM + 617gp
Build Embassy to Aztecs for 134gp
Investigate Teayo (Aztec) for 63gp
Barracks, 2 Rifles & 3 ships
Looking at the situation I don't feel happy about going to war until we have a sizeable force of MDI supported by enough Trebuchet/Cannon to make a decisive strike.
We only have 1 Trebuchet presently and the bombard strength of 6 isn't going to be very successful against the Rifle's effective defense of 8.
As we only have ~30% chance of an MDI defeating a fortified Rifle (reg) then an initial assault force of 9 or more MDI seems called for.
Another problem is going to be the draft rate. Under Fascism it's possible to draft 2 Citizens per turn which, unless we manage to declare & take Teayo in the same turn (impossible with MDI/Trebuchet), means that the Aztecs will have at least 1 drafting round probably resulting in 2 reg Rifles & 2 Conscripts.
However MDI vs Rifles is the best shot we're going to get until Replaceable Parts comes along and that's too far down the road.We need to grab that last Ivory ASAP as it's our ticket to the future.
Dromon to Brusa
Press button..
GA ends
Varna, Smyrna, Heraclea, Chalcedon, Naissus, Septum & Ancyra riot ???
1 - 860AD
Varna taxman
Smyrna clown
Heraclea taxman
Chalcedon taxman
Naissus taxman
Septum taxman
Ancyra taxman
income +102gpt
Not sure what happened there. I even went back to the save and checked I hadn't inadvertantly lowered lux.
Dromon to NW Trebizond
Troops move North
Workers work
Buy Metallurgy + WM from Maya for Ivory, WM + 727gp (let's start building those Cannon)
Hawk WM for 14gp
Game crashes - reload & replay
IBT
Maya offer MPP & RoP for 3gpt - I decline, selling him our TM for his WM
Adrianople MDI - Trebuchet
Ancyra Market - Trebuchet
Order restored throughout the empire
2 - 870AD
Dromon to Heraclea
Troops North
Workers work
Hawk WM for 3gp
Nobody has Saltpetre for trade so I'll carry on building Trebuchets until one becomes available
3 - 880AD
Dromon to W Smyrna
Troops North
Workers work
WM is worthless this time as everyone except Greece (14,898gp) is broke
IBT
Brusa Court - Temple
4 - 890AD
Dromon to NW Sardica
Workers work
Constantinople switches to Cathedral & hires taxman
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
American MDI lands E Teayo
Adrianople Trebuchet - Trebuchet
Smyrna Bank - Temple (needed for growth)
5 - 900AD
Trebuchet heads North
Dromon to sentry mode
Workers work
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
American MDI red-lines Rifle but is defeated
Caesarea Court - Pike
Nicaea Court - Trebuchet
Varna Temple - MDI
6 - 910AD
Trebuchet heads North
Workers work
Varna fires taxman (but growth next turn)
Hawk WM for 4gp
Horse & Ivory to America runs out soon so we should be able to poach a few more techs.
IBT
America offers PP for 580gp - I decline, selling him our TM for his WM
Amorium Granary - Temple
Ancyra Trebuchet - Trebuchet
7 - 920AD
Trebuchets head North
Workers work
Dyrrachium hires taxman
Hawk WM for 2gp
I wasn't offered the chance to renew Horse to America - the deal has disappeared from the FA screen but when I open a dialogue with America it shows Horses (0) in our side - maybe a bug? I'll check next turn and see if it's cleared
IBT
There's a lone Greek Longbow heading into our territory - I'll ask him to leave
Adranople Trebuchet - Knight (well the Horses have shown up)
Naissus Court - Temple
8 - 930AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Greece is remove troops or declare war so I leave it
Chalcedon hires 2nd taxman
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
Greek Longbow seems to be en-route from Marathon to
Caesarea Pike - Knight
Heraclea Barracks - Temple
Chalcedon Court - Temple
9 - 940AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Our Ivory to America deal expired without the opportunity to renegotiate - America is broke and has no surplus lux or Saltpetre
Buy Spices & Dyes from Maya for 38gpt
Lux 10%
I could buy Physics from America for Ivory, 803gp + 31gpt but hang back in case Saltpetre becomes available as Saltpetre + Mil Trad would give us the option to build Cavalry.
IBT
Nicaea Trebuchet - Pike
Varna MDI - Knight
Trebizond Market - Trebuchet
10 - 950AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Notes
I've left a couple of Horses in Varna for possible upgrades.
Saltpetre is what we need most but nobody has any for sale. If we can get our hands on some then we could upgrade our Trebuchets and perhaps buy Mil Trad to build some Cav.
America seems to be fading fast now. Perhaps an opportunity to buy tech for gpt hoping they're exterminated?
There is a small stack ready to attack Teayo with more MDI, Pikes & Trebuchets en-route. However we don't have Barracks in those border towns.
The save is > here <
Ted
Pre-flight checks...
Whoops! Caesarea is about to riot - hire clown
Varna switches from Granary to Temple (already pop 8)
We could buy Physics & MA vs Aztecs from Maya for Ivory, WM + 617gp
Build Embassy to Aztecs for 134gp
Investigate Teayo (Aztec) for 63gp
Barracks, 2 Rifles & 3 ships
Looking at the situation I don't feel happy about going to war until we have a sizeable force of MDI supported by enough Trebuchet/Cannon to make a decisive strike.
We only have 1 Trebuchet presently and the bombard strength of 6 isn't going to be very successful against the Rifle's effective defense of 8.
As we only have ~30% chance of an MDI defeating a fortified Rifle (reg) then an initial assault force of 9 or more MDI seems called for.
Another problem is going to be the draft rate. Under Fascism it's possible to draft 2 Citizens per turn which, unless we manage to declare & take Teayo in the same turn (impossible with MDI/Trebuchet), means that the Aztecs will have at least 1 drafting round probably resulting in 2 reg Rifles & 2 Conscripts.
However MDI vs Rifles is the best shot we're going to get until Replaceable Parts comes along and that's too far down the road.We need to grab that last Ivory ASAP as it's our ticket to the future.
Dromon to Brusa
Press button..
GA ends
Varna, Smyrna, Heraclea, Chalcedon, Naissus, Septum & Ancyra riot ???
1 - 860AD
Varna taxman
Smyrna clown
Heraclea taxman
Chalcedon taxman
Naissus taxman
Septum taxman
Ancyra taxman
income +102gpt
Not sure what happened there. I even went back to the save and checked I hadn't inadvertantly lowered lux.
Dromon to NW Trebizond
Troops move North
Workers work
Buy Metallurgy + WM from Maya for Ivory, WM + 727gp (let's start building those Cannon)
Hawk WM for 14gp
Game crashes - reload & replay
IBT
Maya offer MPP & RoP for 3gpt - I decline, selling him our TM for his WM
Adrianople MDI - Trebuchet
Ancyra Market - Trebuchet
Order restored throughout the empire
2 - 870AD
Dromon to Heraclea
Troops North
Workers work
Hawk WM for 3gp
Nobody has Saltpetre for trade so I'll carry on building Trebuchets until one becomes available
3 - 880AD
Dromon to W Smyrna
Troops North
Workers work
WM is worthless this time as everyone except Greece (14,898gp) is broke
IBT
Brusa Court - Temple
4 - 890AD
Dromon to NW Sardica
Workers work
Constantinople switches to Cathedral & hires taxman
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
American MDI lands E Teayo
Adrianople Trebuchet - Trebuchet
Smyrna Bank - Temple (needed for growth)
5 - 900AD
Trebuchet heads North
Dromon to sentry mode
Workers work
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
American MDI red-lines Rifle but is defeated
Caesarea Court - Pike
Nicaea Court - Trebuchet
Varna Temple - MDI
6 - 910AD
Trebuchet heads North
Workers work
Varna fires taxman (but growth next turn)
Hawk WM for 4gp
Horse & Ivory to America runs out soon so we should be able to poach a few more techs.
IBT
America offers PP for 580gp - I decline, selling him our TM for his WM
Amorium Granary - Temple
Ancyra Trebuchet - Trebuchet
7 - 920AD
Trebuchets head North
Workers work
Dyrrachium hires taxman
Hawk WM for 2gp
I wasn't offered the chance to renew Horse to America - the deal has disappeared from the FA screen but when I open a dialogue with America it shows Horses (0) in our side - maybe a bug? I'll check next turn and see if it's cleared
IBT
There's a lone Greek Longbow heading into our territory - I'll ask him to leave
Adranople Trebuchet - Knight (well the Horses have shown up)
Naissus Court - Temple
8 - 930AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Greece is remove troops or declare war so I leave it
Chalcedon hires 2nd taxman
Hawk WM for 3gp
IBT
Greek Longbow seems to be en-route from Marathon to
Caesarea Pike - Knight
Heraclea Barracks - Temple
Chalcedon Court - Temple
9 - 940AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Our Ivory to America deal expired without the opportunity to renegotiate - America is broke and has no surplus lux or Saltpetre
Buy Spices & Dyes from Maya for 38gpt
Lux 10%
I could buy Physics from America for Ivory, 803gp + 31gpt but hang back in case Saltpetre becomes available as Saltpetre + Mil Trad would give us the option to build Cavalry.
IBT
Nicaea Trebuchet - Pike
Varna MDI - Knight
Trebizond Market - Trebuchet
10 - 950AD
Trebuchets North
Workers work
Notes
I've left a couple of Horses in Varna for possible upgrades.
Saltpetre is what we need most but nobody has any for sale. If we can get our hands on some then we could upgrade our Trebuchets and perhaps buy Mil Trad to build some Cav.
America seems to be fading fast now. Perhaps an opportunity to buy tech for gpt hoping they're exterminated?
There is a small stack ready to attack Teayo with more MDI, Pikes & Trebuchets en-route. However we don't have Barracks in those border towns.
The save is > here <
Ted
lurker's comment:
America seems to be fading fast now. Perhaps an opportunity to buy tech for gpt hoping they're exterminated?
Wouldn't you still get a rep hit for not fulfilling the deal?
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America seems to be fading fast now. Perhaps an opportunity to buy tech for gpt hoping they're exterminated?
Wouldn't you still get a rep hit for not fulfilling the deal?
[relurk]
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
You're right Space but it might be worth losing rep if we can get a catch up 
Ted
Ted
Ted,
The riots have to do with the end of the GA. I don't know if it is a new bug, but it has happened to me before.
If you load up the initial save, you can notice that the values don't add up. Each citizen is making non-GA values, but the totals are based on the GA (so size 11 town has 14 shields if you count the 11 squares, but 25 in the box). In any case the LUX and the happiness of citizens is based on the GA values, even though it appears there should be no. When it recalculates the happiness it falls short because you really have -1 gold per square. Thus the cities riot.
I have started artificially raising the Lux right before the GA ends because of this. You have to compensate for the missing gold.
I don't remember having this problem pre-conquests, so either I was just adjusting the cities without thinking about it, or it is a new conquests bug.
I do think I remember the "not adding up" problem in PTW??? It is confusing.
Anyway, that is my observation of what the problem is. If anyone has more info on this and whether it is really a known bug, I would be interested.
The riots have to do with the end of the GA. I don't know if it is a new bug, but it has happened to me before.
If you load up the initial save, you can notice that the values don't add up. Each citizen is making non-GA values, but the totals are based on the GA (so size 11 town has 14 shields if you count the 11 squares, but 25 in the box). In any case the LUX and the happiness of citizens is based on the GA values, even though it appears there should be no. When it recalculates the happiness it falls short because you really have -1 gold per square. Thus the cities riot.
I have started artificially raising the Lux right before the GA ends because of this. You have to compensate for the missing gold.
I don't remember having this problem pre-conquests, so either I was just adjusting the cities without thinking about it, or it is a new conquests bug.
I do think I remember the "not adding up" problem in PTW??? It is confusing.
Anyway, that is my observation of what the problem is. If anyone has more info on this and whether it is really a known bug, I would be interested.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Interesting... I'll have another look at the saves this evening. It did occur to me that a lux might have been cut off due to the strife on the other continent but I forgot to check it before I posted.
Ted
Ted
JustBen
Prince
Right on! Glad to see this one moving again.
I'd been keeping an eye open for open saltpeter on my turn, but no dice. Whoever's got it isn't selling it to us. Maybe they'll get into a nice, messy MPP-fueled industrial war soon as give us a chance to grab some then.
At least we'll recover a lot of income when we send our mace-wielding maniacs into the riflemen.
Roster:
Ben
Improviser
Kuningas
TedJackson
Mad-Bax (up next!)
Greebley (on deck)
I'd been keeping an eye open for open saltpeter on my turn, but no dice. Whoever's got it isn't selling it to us. Maybe they'll get into a nice, messy MPP-fueled industrial war soon as give us a chance to grab some then.
At least we'll recover a lot of income when we send our mace-wielding maniacs into the riflemen.
Roster:
Ben
Improviser
Kuningas
TedJackson
Mad-Bax (up next!)
Greebley (on deck)
Madbax,
Don't forget you have this game to play too
(given a comment in another thread, I am just making sure you haven't forgotten about this one - though perhaps you have played, but just not posted?).
Don't forget you have this game to play too
(given a comment in another thread, I am just making sure you haven't forgotten about this one - though perhaps you have played, but just not posted?).
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I'm late because a friend of mine has broken his computer, and like the nice guy I am I'm rebuilding it for him. These things happen sometimes, and it surprises me that I can prioritise anything above my next SG turn. Maybe it's even healthy
I was hoping to finish and post tonight, but given that it's past midnight and I have three and a half turns to play and the turnlog and pictures .. I just can't face it. Sorry.
I was hoping to finish and post tonight, but given that it's past midnight and I have three and a half turns to play and the turnlog and pictures .. I just can't face it. Sorry.
Sounds like you are making good progress. I am not in any kind of rush, I was just checking.
Improviser
Chieftain
Sorry team, I will have to ask to be dropped from this succession game (and from all of them)... due to a virtual ban on computer games which has been placed on me. I'm really sorry that this has happened- I wouldn't have signed up for any succession games if I knew that I would have to do this. I hope to be back on these forums eventually...
Improviser
Improviser
Major bummer on the computer game ban 
Good luck to you!
Good luck to you!
JustBen
Prince
Three days for 3 turns is way too long. 72 hours != 96 hours.
Go for it, Greebley.
Go for it, Greebley.
Ok. I cannot play tonight as it is too late to start. So Madbax, you have until tomorrow night Eastern US time to post what you have played. I will post a final "I got it" right before I start playing.
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I'm sorry for not being able to complete my turns. In truth I cannot guarantee that I will be able to participate properly in this or any of my other SG's for the next month or so as I have a situation at work to resolve which will limit my free time. I have already notified most of my other SG's of this. I think the fairest thing I can do is to drop out.
Good luck for the rest of the game guys.
Good luck for the rest of the game guys.
JustBen
Prince
Fair enough. Thanks for playing with us thus far, Madbax.
Roster:
Ben (on deck)
Kuningas
TedJackson
Greebley (up next)
Roster:
Ben (on deck)
Kuningas
TedJackson
Greebley (up next)
Sorry to see you go Madbax. Hopefully, I will see you again when things get better at work.
Preturn: I need to reaquaint myself with the game. It has been a while. I upgrade the the horsemen left for me to upgrade. I go through the towns and make a few changes and trade around squares to build some of the knights a tad faster. This is more to re-familiarize myself with the game, than any real need to do so.
IBT: Lone Mayan Cav lands next to the Aztec city.
960 AD: 3 rifles in the Aztec town. Move troops. Nearly ready to attack (I am upgrading some Garrisons on the Greek lines)
IBT: Mayan Cav does not kill a rifle, but is red-lined.
Constantanople: Cathedral->Pike
Varna: Pike->Pike
Ancyra: Trebuchet->Library
Brusa: Trebuchet->Aquaduct
970 AD: Well I think I have enough for taking out a single Aztec city. I make sure we have no deals with the Aztecs, and no lux deals with America who might get cut off. I check the discount we would get with declaring war by allying with the Mayans, but it is less than a 100 gold, so definitely no alliance
Declare war. Move units next to the city and bombard the city (damaging a boat) with the Dromon.
IBT: Greeks offer to trade maps... ok
Adrianople: Knight->Knight
Smyrna: Temple->Trebuchet
Dyrrachium: Courthouse->Caravel
980 AD: Dromon and Trebuchets bombard the town. Rifles have 2 or 3 hp.
MDI vs 3 hp rifle wins!
MDI vs 3 hp rifle lowers the hp to 1.
MDI vs 2 hp rifle wins!
MDI vs 1 hp rifle loses 1hp rifle now has 2 hp.
MDI vs 2 hp rifle wins and we take the city.
with MDI to spare (since we were on the lucky side)
I will keep the city. The distance factor should mitigate the huge culture difference. The main reason is that the Greek city would claim the land. I would rather limit greek shields.
Move some of the new units to the S - 2 more turns for Greek deals to run out.
Decide to go for Tech. 60 gpt + 325 gold for Physics to America. 130 gpt + 665 gold for TOG and Magnetism to America. I actually expect America to live, I just don't want to give money to the Mayans and Aztec and Greece are out.
Unfortunately, we get medicine for our free tech
We had a 1 in 3 chance of getting Nationalism which America doesn't have so we would have gotten a bonus tech via trade if we had gotten it. Medicine is my least favorite. I do start Min Sci on Sanitation which noone has yet.
IBT: No movement
Caesarea: Knight->Knight
Varna: Pike->Pike
Naissus: Barracks->Pike
990 AD: Working on lining up units for Greek attack. MM several cities to 14 shields.
IBT: No movement
Constantanople: Pike->Knight.
Nicaea: Barracks->Pike
1000 AD: Some MM.
IBT: Greece lux deal expires - I was hoping to keep this until we were ready for war, but no luck (or we have 20 turn renegotiate set - I forgot to check that). Caesarea riots, but the other cities are fixed.
Varna
ike-Pike
Septum: Courthouse->Market
Teayo is finally starting to starve.
1010 AD: Whoops! We are going to be fighting infantry. Greece has them. We need Cannon. Trade 24 gpt and 420 gold for Saltpeter. Some cities switched to Bank.
IBT: All quiet
1020 AD: Upgrade some Trebuchet
IBT:
Smyrna: Barracks->Knight
Ancyra: Library->Bank
Adrianople: Knight->Knight
1030 AD: Upgrade a few Trebuchet
IBT:
1040 AD: Save money (2 more trebuchet).
IBT:
Constantanople: Knight->Knight
Varna: Musket->Musket
Sardica: Courthouse->Market
1050 AD: Make peace with the Aztecs straight up.
Notes:
We have a few opportunities. With Aztec peace we can trade for Wines from them or furs from Greeks or both. We need lux badly. One idea would be to trade lux with Aztecs and then try to buy Mil Trad to attack Greece. Or we could decide we can't attack Greece soon so go for both Lux and try to buy something like Steam.
The Americans looked ok when I traded, but they are fading. I hope I didn't make a mistake. Do we really lose rep if America is destroyed? I wasn't sure.
Teayo will starve to size 1 next turn.
I am curious how many Knights (or Cavs) it would take to kill 2-3 Infantry fortified in size 7+ cities and have a good chance of winning. I continued to build Military, but I wasn't sure if that was the best idea. Maybe more cannon?
The save
Preturn: I need to reaquaint myself with the game. It has been a while. I upgrade the the horsemen left for me to upgrade. I go through the towns and make a few changes and trade around squares to build some of the knights a tad faster. This is more to re-familiarize myself with the game, than any real need to do so.
IBT: Lone Mayan Cav lands next to the Aztec city.
960 AD: 3 rifles in the Aztec town. Move troops. Nearly ready to attack (I am upgrading some Garrisons on the Greek lines)
IBT: Mayan Cav does not kill a rifle, but is red-lined.
Constantanople: Cathedral->Pike
Varna: Pike->Pike
Ancyra: Trebuchet->Library
Brusa: Trebuchet->Aquaduct
970 AD: Well I think I have enough for taking out a single Aztec city. I make sure we have no deals with the Aztecs, and no lux deals with America who might get cut off. I check the discount we would get with declaring war by allying with the Mayans, but it is less than a 100 gold, so definitely no alliance
Declare war. Move units next to the city and bombard the city (damaging a boat) with the Dromon.
IBT: Greeks offer to trade maps... ok
Adrianople: Knight->Knight
Smyrna: Temple->Trebuchet
Dyrrachium: Courthouse->Caravel
980 AD: Dromon and Trebuchets bombard the town. Rifles have 2 or 3 hp.
MDI vs 3 hp rifle wins!
MDI vs 3 hp rifle lowers the hp to 1.
MDI vs 2 hp rifle wins!
MDI vs 1 hp rifle loses 1hp rifle now has 2 hp.
MDI vs 2 hp rifle wins and we take the city.
with MDI to spare (since we were on the lucky side)
I will keep the city. The distance factor should mitigate the huge culture difference. The main reason is that the Greek city would claim the land. I would rather limit greek shields.
Move some of the new units to the S - 2 more turns for Greek deals to run out.
Decide to go for Tech. 60 gpt + 325 gold for Physics to America. 130 gpt + 665 gold for TOG and Magnetism to America. I actually expect America to live, I just don't want to give money to the Mayans and Aztec and Greece are out.
Unfortunately, we get medicine for our free tech
We had a 1 in 3 chance of getting Nationalism which America doesn't have so we would have gotten a bonus tech via trade if we had gotten it. Medicine is my least favorite. I do start Min Sci on Sanitation which noone has yet.IBT: No movement
Caesarea: Knight->Knight
Varna: Pike->Pike
Naissus: Barracks->Pike
990 AD: Working on lining up units for Greek attack. MM several cities to 14 shields.
IBT: No movement
Constantanople: Pike->Knight.
Nicaea: Barracks->Pike
1000 AD: Some MM.
IBT: Greece lux deal expires - I was hoping to keep this until we were ready for war, but no luck (or we have 20 turn renegotiate set - I forgot to check that). Caesarea riots, but the other cities are fixed.
Varna
ike-PikeSeptum: Courthouse->Market
Teayo is finally starting to starve.
1010 AD: Whoops! We are going to be fighting infantry. Greece has them. We need Cannon. Trade 24 gpt and 420 gold for Saltpeter. Some cities switched to Bank.
IBT: All quiet
1020 AD: Upgrade some Trebuchet
IBT:
Smyrna: Barracks->Knight
Ancyra: Library->Bank
Adrianople: Knight->Knight
1030 AD: Upgrade a few Trebuchet
IBT:
1040 AD: Save money (2 more trebuchet).
IBT:
Constantanople: Knight->Knight
Varna: Musket->Musket
Sardica: Courthouse->Market
1050 AD: Make peace with the Aztecs straight up.
Notes:
We have a few opportunities. With Aztec peace we can trade for Wines from them or furs from Greeks or both. We need lux badly. One idea would be to trade lux with Aztecs and then try to buy Mil Trad to attack Greece. Or we could decide we can't attack Greece soon so go for both Lux and try to buy something like Steam.
The Americans looked ok when I traded, but they are fading. I hope I didn't make a mistake. Do we really lose rep if America is destroyed? I wasn't sure.
Teayo will starve to size 1 next turn.
I am curious how many Knights (or Cavs) it would take to kill 2-3 Infantry fortified in size 7+ cities and have a good chance of winning. I continued to build Military, but I wasn't sure if that was the best idea. Maybe more cannon?
The save
