Jeb Bush vs Hillary

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The Republicans have figured out that most people want liberalism. But they can't just become more liberal, which would get them more votes in the long run, because then they would lose their base (and donors) in the short term.

Instead their solution is to try to use voter suppression and gerrymandering to limit the "voters" to the people who are still likely to want conservatism, which is why they will continue to lose the Presidential election.
 
Don't underestimate the impact in 2012. Something made it competitive.

J

Karl Rove's imagination?

"The polls are wrong." - Karl Rove, pretty much any day in 2012.
"The projections are wrong!" - Karl Rove on election day in 2012.
"There are still absentee ballots!!!" - Karl Rove the day after election day in 2012.
"Romney won I tell you, he won!!!!!!" - Karl Rove in a straightjacket.
 
the republicans haven't figured out that most people don't want hyper-conservatism.

The problem here being that hyperconservatism is actually winning. So people do want it. But there are limits to how much it is winning. It's winning governors, and statehouses, and congress. But it will have more problems with president.
 
Bill Maher accused Jeb Bush of not only using pot but dealing it

and he called upon Obama to end the war on pot and pardon all the people in cages for pot "crimes"

Hmm... Jeb said about his pot use he was a cynical turd in a cynical school. Bill then said Jeb pushed mandatory jail for pot possession but his daughter didn't go to jail for possession. Bill then said Jeb is still a cynical turd.
 
Don't underestimate the impact in 2012. Something made it competitive.

J

332-206. Losing Indiana really put a scare into Obama.

Edit - Clinton is toast:

Hillary Clinton currently leads her prospective Republican rivals in early polling for the 2016 presidential contest, but her chances of becoming the 45th president of the United States were dealt a potentially devastating blow on Friday as conservative pundit Bill Kristol predicted that she would win next year’s election.

So why is Kristol’s forecast bad news for Hillary? Look no further than his track record, which Mediate’s Andrew Kirell noted in 2013 is a spectacularly awful one: In 2008, Kristol assured us that Clinton would coast to the Democratic nomination, easily dispatching upstart challenger Barack Obama. ”Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single Democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now,” he proclaimed. That same year, he championed Sarah Palin’s selection as John McCain’s running mate, arguing that the “heartthrob” would be a boon to the GOP ticket. Three years prior — as Democrats were on the cusp of reclaiming control of both chambers of Congress — Kristol predicted that Republicans would maintain congressional power in the 2006 midterms, asserting that the GOP would “benefit from being the party of victory” in Iraq.

Speaking of Iraq: As a leading neoconservative booster of the war, Kristol assured us it would be a smashing success, and declared that the Bush administration’s claims about weapons of mass destruction would prove true.

The war wasn’t the only major policy issue Kristol got woefully wrong. He once told Larry King that 1993 would be the “high water mark” for the gay rights movement; 22 years later, we’re on the verge of nationwide marriage equality, which about six in 10 Americans now support.

So mark your calendars, Republicans: February 20, 2015 was the date you won the 2016 election.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/20/terrible_news_for_hillary_clinton_bill_kristol_thinks_shes_going_to_win/
 
2012 was very competitive for most of the race, but opened up at the end.

Someone compared it to a horse race that was side by side at the turn, but three lengths at the finish.

J
 
I'm guessing Walker will get the nomination. If it's Bush/Clinton again, I don't think I can emigrate fast enough.

He said "mistakes were made". Sound familiar?

"Mistakes were made... by no one in particular, they just happened. What? Stop looking at me like that."
 
2012 was very competitive for most of the race, but opened up at the end.

Someone compared it to a horse race that was side by side at the turn, but three lengths at the finish.

J

I was campaigning hard for Obama, and the hardest thing about staying motivated was that it was shaping up to be a blowout. The only serious observers who didn't see it coming were Team Mittens.
 
2012 was very competitive for most of the race, but opened up at the end.

Someone compared it to a horse race that was side by side at the turn, but three lengths at the finish.

J
"Someone"... Yep that's some standard "Some-People-Say" FoxNewspeak right there:lol:

By "someone" or "some people" they mean me or I say this or that. Attributing it to some nebulous "other" person is to make it sound more objective or credible.
 
Romney really isn't particularly radical, I think it's more that people don't actually like what conservatism entails, and it's getting more difficult for Republicans to keep all their skeletons in the closet.

But he filled his policy teams with raving lunatics with track records of dismal failure. I'd say that was the biggest thing that did him in. And no matter who gets nominated the Republican power brokers will insist that they make the same mistake.
 
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