Jewish "Jihadist" 9/11 Plot Foiled

[Sonereal]

This guy was a gamergater and ran numerous racist reddit boards

Of course he was. I'm not entirely surprised.

 

[Formaldehyde]

It is ironic that he supposedly claims to be doing all of this trolling in the name of "freedom of speech" when he accomplished just the opposite. He essentially ran around yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, and he may have even been directly responsible for the attack on Pamela Geller's Islamophobic Texas trollfest.

 

[useless]

Of course he was. I'm not entirely surprised.

But don't you see, he wasn't a gamergater, he just happened to support them, talk their language of hate, advocated harassment and hated "sjw's"

No one is a gamergater, except the good ones and only them

 

[Tahuti]

They are "very cool" when fundamentalist Jews are allowed to even stone female American human rights representatives, pregnant women, and children while even openly preaching hatred of Christians?

They aren't. Such people are prosecuted by the Israeli authorities. Of course, the situation might be different in the Palestinian territories, though that's an anarchic mess anyway.

Are you opposed to blatantly obvious Jewish terrorists in Israel being prosecuted as terrorists?

Not at all, I applaud it.

And what religious group has the US "banned"?

The JDL, to name one example.

 

[Formaldehyde]

They aren't. Such people are prosecuted by the Israeli authorities. Of course, the situation might be different in the Palestinian territories, though that's an anarchic mess anyway.

Right...Notice the cops not arresting these anti-Christian and anti-American hate spewers even after they engage in assault.


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Israeli TV show mocking Christianity supposedly to voluminous applause and laughter from the audience.


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And isn't it ironic that it "may" be different in territory obviously controlled by the very same government.

Not at all, I applaud it.

But you think just mentioning it shows that the Israeli government is completely even-handed in these affairs?

How many Israeli children are in prison without even trials for throwing rocks at defenseless Muslims who weren't in tanks? How many Israelis are beaten senseless and even intentionally run over with a bulldozer for merely protesting?

The JDL, to name one example.

They are not "banned" at all, despite likely being directly responsible for hundreds of terrorist acts.

The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a Jewish far-right religious-political organization whose stated goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary".[1] While the group asserts that it "unequivocally condemns terrorism" and states that it has a "strict no-tolerance policy against terrorism and other felonious acts",[2] it was classified as "a right-wing terrorist group" by the FBI in 2001 and is considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[3][4] According to the FBI, the JDL has been involved in plotting and executing acts of terrorism within the United States.[3][5]

 

[Tahuti]

But you think just mentioning it shows that the Israeli government is completely even-handed in these affairs?

How many Israeli children are in prison without even trials for throwing rocks at defenseless Muslims who weren't in tanks? How many Israelis are beaten senseless and even intentionally run over with a bulldozer for merely protesting?

http://www.gettyimages.nl/detail/ni...tra-orthodox-jewish-man-nieuwsfotos/482382392

Doing stuff that Ultraorthodox Jews do is pretty much a no-go.

Israeli TV show mocking Christianity supposedly to voluminous applause and laughter from the audience.


Link to video.

That is like saying that the US Federal government is an atheist dictatorship because of Bill Maher.

And isn't it ironic that it "may" be different in territory obviously controlled by the very same government.

Israel controls West-Bank to the extent necessary to prevent spillovers from Palestinian-Settler and inter-Palestinian fighting to Israel itself. Now, in some parts, the Palestinian government has complete autonomy, which usually results in a bellum omnium contra omnes or in persecution of political dissidents and 'blasphemers' such as Waleed Al-Husseini, which puts a lie to the notion that an independent Palestine would be a step forward in comparison to the status quo.

They are not "banned" at all, despite likely being directly responsible for hundreds of terrorist acts.

The very same article mentions the FBI considers it a terrorist organisation. That precludes them operating in the open legally.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Spoiler :

http://www.gettyimages.nl/detail/ni...tra-orthodox-jewish-man-nieuwsfotos/482382392

Doing stuff that Ultraorthodox Jews do is pretty much a no-go.

Right. Because one person who murdered a girl in front of the video cameras is being treated like the obvious criminal he clearly is.

That is like saying that the US Federal government is an atheist dictatorship because of Bill Maher.

Talk about terrible analogies. That is like saying that open anti-Christian hate isn't quite popular with many in Israel.

Israel controls West-Bank to the extent necessary to prevent spillovers from Palestinian-Settler and inter-Palestinian fighting to Israel itself.

I guess that explains why Israeli cops just stand around while settlers throw rocks at pregnant women, babies, and female human rights volunteers, while they arrest any Muslims they see doing the same.

The very same article mentions the FBI considers it a terrorist organisation. That precludes them operating in the open legally.

It obviously does nothing of the sort.

http://www.jdl.org/

SPLC: JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE

The JDL today has chapters in Eastern Europe, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Russia, and the United Kingdom, in addition to those in the U.S. The FBI deemed the league a right-wing terrorist group in their report "Terrorism 2000/2001." The JDL continues to wield steady membership through its website and blog, which distort news stories in order to vilify politicians, academics, and community leaders as "anti-Semitic." One such recent attack was entitled "Carter the Jew Hater," and attacked the former president's book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.

The KKK is also considered to be a terrorist group. But they still operate quite openly. In the US we have this thing called "freedom of speech", at least for those who aren't Muslim.

Even the UK, Canada, and Australia allow the JDL despite having so-called hate speech laws. Don't ask me how, but they do. I guess some hate groups are more equal than others.

 

[brennan]

But don't you see, he wasn't a gamergater, he just happened to support them, talk their language of hate, advocated harassment and hated "sjw's"

No one is a gamergater, except the good ones and only them

I'm sure you also believe that he was a prominent Australian lawyer, because you are consistent in your view that whatever he posted as, that's what he really was.

 

[useless]

Why are you so intent on believing he wasn't an actual member of gamergate, when his own actions and affiliations clearly show that?

But do go on, strawman me more.

 

[Tahuti]

Talk about terrible analogies. That is like saying that open anti-Christian hate isn't quite popular with many in Israel.

There is nothing wrong with being Anti-Christian, as long as you don't try to force it onto others as Christians generally tend to do. Along with sciencce, pagans and non-Christians and non-Christian stuff in general, Ethnic Jews, religious and atheist alike, are often victims of Christian proselytising behavior. Therefore, to find Anti-Christianity common among them is not exactly surprising.

It obviously does nothing of the sort.

http://www.jdl.org/

SPLC: JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE

The KKK is also considered to be a terrorist group. But they still operate quite openly. In the US we have this thing called "freedom of speech", at least for those who aren't Muslim.

Even the UK, Canada, and Australia allow the JDL despite having so-called hate speech laws. Don't ask me how, but they do. I guess some hate groups are more equal than others.

Advocating support for terrorist organisations may or may not be in the bounds of freedom of speech. We Dutch - and other Europeans too probably - find it common for Muslim youths to support IS and such is generally not actively prosecuted.

 

[brennan]

Do you believe his actions and affiliations clearly show that he was an Islamic Jihadist as well?

 

[Joecoolyo]

Yeah Joe. We're onto you. Both sides of every coin.

Why are you so intent on believing he wasn't an actual member of gamergate, when his own actions and affiliations clearly show that?

But do go on, strawman me more.

Apparently this guy was a really good troll, considering how much you've fallen for his act.

 

[useless]

It's actually about ethics in sending bomb threats

 

[Formaldehyde]

There is nothing wrong with being Anti-Christian, as long as you don't try to force it onto others as Christians generally tend to do.

That's good because I am obviously doing nothing of the sort, even though you seem to think I am.

I also disagree that "Christians generally tend to do" this. It is really just the authoritarian conservatives for the most part, at least in the US. Many Christians are personally opposed to abortion, but only a very small number of them are trying to ban them nowadays.

Along with sciencce, pagans and non-Christians and non-Christian stuff in general, Ethnic Jews, religious and atheist alike, are often victims of Christian proselytising behavior. Therefore, to find Anti-Christianity common among them is not exactly surprising.

I think blatant bigotry and hatred is entirely unacceptable in any form. This is particularly true when it is religiously motivated.

How many Christians do you think there are in Israel trying to proselytize Jews, especially fundamentalists?

Advocating support for terrorist organisations may or may not be in the bounds of freedom of speech. We Dutch - and other Europeans too probably - find it common for Muslim youths to support IS and such is generally not actively prosecuted.

It is "common"? That sounds like something right off an Islamophobic site written by Geert Wilders. Source?

 

[Thedrin]

So you are claiming he is not Jewish? Did you even bother to read the Times of Israel headline, much less the article? Yes, the thread title is "accurate" but it is not "misleading".

And the OP didn't state he was "motivated by his religion or politics". Now did it?

But what do you think his "motivation" was ...

No, I'm not claiming he is not Jewish. I'm not sure how anyone could perceive that from what I posted.
Yes, I read the headline and the article.
I offered no judgement on the OP beyond the thread title.
I haven't attempted to guess what his motivation might be.

As for my claim that the thread title is misleading:
Your use of the term "Jihadi", and its place within the title, implies (but doesn't necessarily mean) that he was motivated to act by religious and/or political beliefs. The provided documentation does not support this interpretation of the title. Hence my description "accurate and misleading".

 

[Formaldehyde]

Yet the headline and the Times of Israel story uses the very same word to describe him and his activities! I even put it in quotes to emphasize that it was not literal. That he wasn't actually a "jihadist" at all, being Jewish and all.

 

[Wolfbeckett]

The dude was still involved in Gamergate the week he was arrested, if you want to engage in apologetics go ahead, but every and anyone can claim to be legitimately a part of gamergate due to it's refusal to engage in vetting and it's desire to remain unorganised and this guy was a part of it.

He engaged, supported, followed and was followed by members of gamergate, especially milo:

He was the originater of the "Shaun King is white" rubbish That milo and breitbart spewed forth with next to no qualms about journalistic ethics.

I do agree that the no vetting is a problem. It's a problem with Twitter in a general sense though, not Gamergate specifically, which is why I mostly use Reddit's KotakuInAction board for my Gamergate interactions and basically ignore Twitter. I consider Twitter to be cancer.

So what if it's a hashtag? It's also a group of people.

It seems to me you want to excuse this group of people, known for their vocal harassment of those they ideologically disagree with, it seems to me you want to give them a free pass all because they're a "hashtag"

And it seems to me that you want to judge the entire thing based on a minority of bad apples simply because you disagree with them ideologically. Think carefully if this is the standard you want to set. Because if that's where we're going, then I'm going to be able to claim that feminism is about man-hating because there are a handful of feminists that use the #killallmen. I'm going to be able to claim that BlackLivesMatter is about harassment because of those people that were interrupting Bernie Sanders. I'm going to be able to claim that Islam is all about terror and violence because of ISIS. Consider carefully just how much hypocrisy you're willing to indulge in when you want to say that those groups can't be defined by their worst elements but this one can.

If this guy gets to represent Gamergate because he used the hashtag, he also gets to represent Australian leftists since he posed as one of them as well. Do we have any Australians on this board? I'd love to see how they can possibly defend themselves for their affiliation with this clown!

 

[Tahuti]

That's good because I am obviously doing nothing of the sort, even though you seem to think I am.

I also disagree that "Christians generally tend to do" this. It is really just the authoritarian conservatives for the most part, at least in the US. Many Christians are personally opposed to abortion, but only a very small number of them are trying to ban them nowadays.

I am well aware you are non-affiliated at the very least. That makes me wonder why you seemed to attempt to shield Christians from Jews.

And a Christian who has lapsed isn't really a Christian in practice, right?

I think blatant bigotry and hatred is entirely unacceptable in any form. This is particularly true when it is religiously motivated.

How many Christians do you think there are in Israel trying to proselytize Jews, especially fundamentalists?

Well, the problem here is thinking that one religion is better than others. Bigotry and hatred are merely symptoms of that particular problem, which is strong religious faith in general, combined with the rejection of living and let live.

It is "common"? That sounds like something right off an Islamophobic site written by Geert Wilders. Source?

I wouldn't go as far and say that the majority of Muslims in Europe do this and therefore, are not to be trusted. However, it is certainly not something 'alien' for us to see.

 

[Joecoolyo]

It's actually about ethics in sending bomb threats

Do you think someone would do that? Just go on the internet, and tell lies?

 

[Formaldehyde]

I am well aware you are non-affiliated at the very least. That makes me wonder why you seemed to attempt to shield Christians from Jews.

Shield Christians from Jews? What is that even supposed to mean?

And a Christian who has lapsed isn't really a Christian in practice, right?

You mean virtually no Christian is a Christian because nearly everybody commits so-called "sins" that are supposedly forgiven? How silly. It is a religion based on guilt like the other Abrahamic religions. I have yet to meet a Christian who has claimed to have never "sinned".

You could certainly argue that someone of any Abrahamic faith who commits such heinous "sins" as deliberately killing large numbers of innocent people obviously isn't following the basic precepts of his religion. But that is just as true with Muslims as it is with Christians and Jews.

Well, the problem here is thinking that one religion is better than others. Bigotry and hatred are merely symptoms of that particular problem, which is strong religious faith in general, combined with the rejection of living and let live.

At least we can generally agree on that.

But it is not always the case. Take homophobia, for instance.

I wouldn't go as far and say that the majority of Muslims in Europe do this and therefore, are not to be trusted. However, it is certainly not something 'alien' for us to see.

You said it was common among youth. Source?