Jungle start

[Stalker0]

Another option with jungle is to rush for trade. As has been pointed out you don’t need a lot of the base techs with jungle...so get your ITR started early which can catch up on the food

 

[Owlbebach]

Another option with jungle is to rush for trade. As has been pointed out you don’t need a lot of the base techs with jungle...so get your ITR started early which can catch up on the food

ITR can also be International.

On deity (and i suppose on Immortal too) International Trade Routes give huge amount of science, you can't really use internal (8 / vs 7+5+3 while you have 8 per turn)

 

[CrazyG]

Another option with jungle is to rush for trade. As has been pointed out you don’t need a lot of the base techs with jungle...so get your ITR started early which can catch up on the food

How many techs am I supposed to research before I get access to luxuries?

 

[hr_oskar]

Gotta agree. I'm so tired of jungle I've tweaked it to be less frequent in my preferred map script. Tradition in jungle is particularly painful. As it is, I agree that jungle isn't worth keeping around, while I like to keep forests for the workshop. Jungle starts defy all conventional civ logic: I mostly don't want workers until god-knows-what-turn because I need so much tech to do things.

 

[Stalker0]

Let me start a thread in general balance, it sounds at least worth a discussion.