Lt. 'Killer' M.
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docceh? you there?
K 4 - Killing spree?
- Thread starter Lt. 'Killer' M.
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docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
sorry... suffering from illness 
been in bed for last few days
I've got the game now... will post asap.
been in bed for last few daysI've got the game now... will post asap.
docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
1. Inherited Turn
3. Positioning Troops for assault on France.
5. Im going to use alot of turns for troop movement, our empire is very large.
6. DAMN!! Athens has desposed to the French... they are going to die!
8. Thermopylae desposes to French, our troops are too far away to start a war!
10. Screw this.... time to die Joan! War with France begins!
11. We lose London and 1 Immortal in the field due as the French get the first attack in. We just didn't have the troops near the French border Athens is a tough nut to crack :| Aztecs are destroyed however.
12. We march over Lyons, with Heavy losses. Man I hate musketeers!
13. Rheims is captured! CRAP! They have CAVALRY!!
Athens retaken... time to march on to Paris! They also have a GL protected by the CAV!! Too bad I have nothing to attack it with !
14. Trade w/ China - 670 gold for Gunpowder (we need to kill France's source!) ...It's all the way back at Orleans. We must Pillage it fast! We have 4 sources in our territory.
15. We are edging closer to Paris.
16. JUST GREAT! France have an army in Paris!
17. French army takes Rhiems.
18. Troop movement. We strike peace with France and get Music Theory and World Map. At least we regained Athens and we have taken Lyons.
20. End.
Our main groups of Immortals are situated in Babylon and Sparta and there are some in Athens too. Be careful with Babylon tho, it could very easily despose back to Babylonian rule.
K4_1060AD.zip
3. Positioning Troops for assault on France.
5. Im going to use alot of turns for troop movement, our empire is very large.
6. DAMN!! Athens has desposed to the French... they are going to die!
8. Thermopylae desposes to French, our troops are too far away to start a war!
10. Screw this.... time to die Joan! War with France begins!
11. We lose London and 1 Immortal in the field due as the French get the first attack in. We just didn't have the troops near the French border
Athens is a tough nut to crack :| Aztecs are destroyed however.12. We march over Lyons, with Heavy losses. Man I hate musketeers!
13. Rheims is captured! CRAP! They have CAVALRY!!
Athens retaken... time to march on to Paris! They also have a GL protected by the CAV!! Too bad I have nothing to attack it with ! 14. Trade w/ China - 670 gold for Gunpowder (we need to kill France's source!) ...It's all the way back at Orleans. We must Pillage it fast! We have 4 sources in our territory.
15. We are edging closer to Paris.
16. JUST GREAT! France have an army in Paris!
17. French army takes Rhiems.
18. Troop movement. We strike peace with France and get Music Theory and World Map. At least we regained Athens and we have taken Lyons.
20. End.
Our main groups of Immortals are situated in Babylon and Sparta and there are some in Athens too. Be careful with Babylon tho, it could very easily despose back to Babylonian rule.
K4_1060AD.zip
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
I knew war with France would be tough but ouch... they will pay!!!!
Have we had any Great Leaders yet?
Have we had any Great Leaders yet?
docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
i dont think we've had a GL yet... and with all this warmongering !! what a kick in the chops!
YEh.. those musketeers are bastards!!! They even used a couple to get a first attack on our Immortals. We need to get our techs upto Military Tradition.
If we beat America into a position where they would give us the Techs for peace that would be ideal IMHO (They are technologically superior).
And plus we have a bit of gold to spalsh out on techs!
what a kick in the chops!YEh.. those musketeers are bastards!!! They even used a couple to get a first attack on our Immortals. We need to get our techs upto Military Tradition.
If we beat America into a position where they would give us the Techs for peace that would be ideal IMHO (They are technologically superior).
And plus we have a bit of gold to spalsh out on techs!
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
That is illegal. Only techs for techs or extorting techs: read the first post. At least I think its illegal.
CG
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yep, cg is correct. Tech for tech or for peace - no other way
cgannon64: it's you IIRC.....
cgannon64: it's you IIRC.....
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
OK, I got the save, will play later. What happens if we break the rules? Just a scolding? 
CG
CG
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cgannon64: >horrible US-actor-trying-to-sound-German accent 'on'< ferry ferry bad scoldingz inteet !!
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
OK, here are my pretty exciting, if not very fruitful, fifteen turns:
(0) Alright, first thing I notice: France is in the Industrial age. If they have Nationalism, we are royally screwed. First priority right now is to find out if they have infantry, because if they do, we are in deep trouble. Now, we have saltpeter, but we are two techs away from Cavs and the highest we can research (w/o losing money) is min sci. This is NOT looking good, I've been dealt quite the 15 turns. Unfortunately, we only have 7 muskets, and none near the future front with France. I don't know about you, but I see Caesar and Hiawatha as much worthyier targets, don't you? Damn it! America has Cavs, so war with them is definetely out as well. So, I hope to do a quick war with Rome, extort techs, than Iroquois. Sounds good? I begin a massive troop movement to towards Iroquios/Roman front. Now, I have a serious question: we have 41 Immos, but where are they? Apparently, spread out everywhere. We have three good stacks: Babylon, Sparta, and Athens. God, this is tough. OK, we should have a good-sized fighting force of about 25, not bad. Iroquious must go so we can get to Rome, a sad fact.
(1) What sucks is that our production centers are 7 Immo moves from the front, very annoying. There is lots of military movement, should be a good 3 turns before a quick war with Iro.
(2) OK, major change: war with Germany first, not Iro. They have 2 techs on us, so I plan to take one of their cities and extort. They should be relatively easy. After them, Iro goes. The bulk of our stack is moved towards German border.
(3) Lots of movement, not much else. If Germany was a human, they would so easily see whats going down...
(4) OK, the Babs will take Banking and 40g for Navigation. I'm not totally sure if this is legal (tech and cash for tech) but I'll do it, because 40g is nothing. Lt Killer, you can scold me if you wish.
(5) Our troops are slowly pacifying Lyons. I set up a mini-stack (2,
) in Azteca. Attack from the West and East, even if the west is a 2-troop worker hunter...
(6) OK, next turn, after a knight arrives in the stack location, its war-time.
(7) I just noticed, we have Immos being produced out our ears. Very nice. I call up Bismarck and formally declare war. Our stacks march into German lands. The result of the war so far: one captured worker ( )
(8) Ack! German has muskets......but hey, its better than infantry...right? It seems that all of our enemies will have muskets, so war priorities are: extort tech until cavs, build massive cav army, take over the world. Anyway, Lyons is pacified, finally officially ours. Two knights wounded in attack on Berlin, our Immo stacks are one tile away, they'll attack next turn.
(9) German archers and spears promote our wounded knights to elite, pitiful fools. The attack from the west, does OK, kills one, loses one. Berlin is ours! We lose about 5 Immos, most veteran, but we control the (now useless) Great Library! The Germans refuse our envoy, he'll probably cough up a tech or two next turn. If not, we'll just pillage his land until he does. We have to keep him around, maybe even give Berlin back: we need some civs to extort from.
(10) Resistance in Berlin ends, time to starve the pop down. The Germans again refuse our envoy: time to pillage, occupy, and starve their last city to size 1. Fools. Five Immos sent to occupy all German lands. Here I make a strategic decision: time to spy. Our money is worthless anyway, we can't buy techs with it. But, we CAN steal techs and enemy plans. I decide to spend 1700g to steal a tech safely from France. Hmm, we can either steal Democracy or Chemistry...chemistry it is. Here something VERY odd happens: we learned Gunpowder from the Chinese? What the heck? Can you say SOTD...so I guess we stole a tech we already have from a civ I didn't even pick!
(11) I offer peace for Phys and Metallurgy, Bismarck responds: "*PTUI*! I spit on your offer!" (I've never seen that one before...). Oh well, time to steal some chickens and harass some women. Germany should begin to starve, we've occupied their land. Unfortunately, all of our little neighbors are backwards in tech: so much for extorting. I'll try stealing again, this time from China. I pay 1128 to do it carefully, and Mao caught us and declared war! Oh well, we don't even share a border, so their stacks should trickle in through ROP. Not that bad.
(12) Oh, here come the Chinese Riders (or just one...). Time to forget occuping Germany and head to China. I nice sized stack is planted on a Chinese mountain, with more to come. I leave the 5 Immos to starve Bismarck, and take alot of Immos out of Berlin. Leipzig loses one pop. Germany still won't talk about peace for a tech, let alone two. Ah, lets continue to grind them down.
(13) Oh, crap, France signed an embargo against us. Not good. Germany still won't talk about giving us Phys, Metallurgy, or both. Leipzig down another point. Good news: China only has Pikes, no Muskets. An American musket is wandering into our territory. A second stack of Immos moves into China, right behind the first.
(14) Crap! China has upgraded to muskets. Because of the annoying geography of Beijing, we'll have to make an extra move to cross a river. Leipzig is down to three, Germany still won't talk about giving us any techs.
(15) Germany is getting gutsy! They just attacked one of our occupying troops. Leipzig is down to 2, and still no talks. Two knights die, one elite wins against Beijing. Next turn, a large stack of Immos should be ready to ta
ke Beijing. Remember: keep starving Germany, keep demanding techs. I'd let peace slide for one, but try to get two. Good luck.
(0) Alright, first thing I notice: France is in the Industrial age. If they have Nationalism, we are royally screwed. First priority right now is to find out if they have infantry, because if they do, we are in deep trouble. Now, we have saltpeter, but we are two techs away from Cavs and the highest we can research (w/o losing money) is min sci. This is NOT looking good, I've been dealt quite the 15 turns. Unfortunately, we only have 7 muskets, and none near the future front with France. I don't know about you, but I see Caesar and Hiawatha as much worthyier targets, don't you? Damn it! America has Cavs, so war with them is definetely out as well. So, I hope to do a quick war with Rome, extort techs, than Iroquois. Sounds good? I begin a massive troop movement to towards Iroquios/Roman front. Now, I have a serious question: we have 41 Immos, but where are they? Apparently, spread out everywhere. We have three good stacks: Babylon, Sparta, and Athens. God, this is tough. OK, we should have a good-sized fighting force of about 25, not bad. Iroquious must go so we can get to Rome, a sad fact.
(1) What sucks is that our production centers are 7 Immo moves from the front, very annoying. There is lots of military movement, should be a good 3 turns before a quick war with Iro.
(2) OK, major change: war with Germany first, not Iro. They have 2 techs on us, so I plan to take one of their cities and extort. They should be relatively easy. After them, Iro goes. The bulk of our stack is moved towards German border.
(3) Lots of movement, not much else. If Germany was a human, they would so easily see whats going down...
(4) OK, the Babs will take Banking and 40g for Navigation. I'm not totally sure if this is legal (tech and cash for tech) but I'll do it, because 40g is nothing. Lt Killer, you can scold me if you wish.
(5) Our troops are slowly pacifying Lyons. I set up a mini-stack (2,
) in Azteca. Attack from the West and East, even if the west is a 2-troop worker hunter...(6) OK, next turn, after a knight arrives in the stack location, its war-time.
(7) I just noticed, we have Immos being produced out our ears. Very nice. I call up Bismarck and formally declare war. Our stacks march into German lands. The result of the war so far: one captured worker (
)(8) Ack! German has muskets...
...but hey, its better than infantry...right? It seems that all of our enemies will have muskets, so war priorities are: extort tech until cavs, build massive cav army, take over the world. Anyway, Lyons is pacified, finally officially ours. Two knights wounded in attack on Berlin, our Immo stacks are one tile away, they'll attack next turn.(9) German archers and spears promote our wounded knights to elite, pitiful fools. The attack from the west, does OK, kills one, loses one. Berlin is ours! We lose about 5 Immos, most veteran, but we control the (now useless) Great Library! The Germans refuse our envoy, he'll probably cough up a tech or two next turn. If not, we'll just pillage his land until he does. We have to keep him around, maybe even give Berlin back: we need some civs to extort from.
(10) Resistance in Berlin ends, time to starve the pop down. The Germans again refuse our envoy: time to pillage, occupy, and starve their last city to size 1. Fools. Five Immos sent to occupy all German lands. Here I make a strategic decision: time to spy. Our money is worthless anyway, we can't buy techs with it. But, we CAN steal techs and enemy plans. I decide to spend 1700g to steal a tech safely from France. Hmm, we can either steal Democracy or Chemistry...chemistry it is. Here something VERY odd happens: we learned Gunpowder from the Chinese? What the heck? Can you say SOTD...so I guess we stole a tech we already have from a civ I didn't even pick!
(11) I offer peace for Phys and Metallurgy, Bismarck responds: "*PTUI*! I spit on your offer!" (I've never seen that one before...). Oh well, time to steal some chickens and harass some women. Germany should begin to starve, we've occupied their land. Unfortunately, all of our little neighbors are backwards in tech: so much for extorting. I'll try stealing again, this time from China. I pay 1128 to do it carefully, and Mao caught us and declared war! Oh well, we don't even share a border, so their stacks should trickle in through ROP. Not that bad.
(12) Oh, here come the Chinese Riders (or just one...). Time to forget occuping Germany and head to China. I nice sized stack is planted on a Chinese mountain, with more to come. I leave the 5 Immos to starve Bismarck, and take alot of Immos out of Berlin. Leipzig loses one pop. Germany still won't talk about peace for a tech, let alone two. Ah, lets continue to grind them down.
(13) Oh, crap, France signed an embargo against us. Not good. Germany still won't talk about giving us Phys, Metallurgy, or both. Leipzig down another point. Good news: China only has Pikes, no Muskets. An American musket is wandering into our territory. A second stack of Immos moves into China, right behind the first.
(14) Crap! China has upgraded to muskets. Because of the annoying geography of Beijing, we'll have to make an extra move to cross a river. Leipzig is down to three, Germany still won't talk about giving us any techs.
(15) Germany is getting gutsy! They just attacked one of our occupying troops. Leipzig is down to 2, and still no talks. Two knights die, one elite wins against Beijing. Next turn, a large stack of Immos should be ready to ta
ke Beijing. Remember: keep starving Germany, keep demanding techs. I'd let peace slide for one, but try to get two. Good luck.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
And the save:
CG
CG
Wow!! Looks like our game is becoming more of a challenge. I've missed reading the posts the last couple of days (I guess the forums were down on Monday, and I didn't get free yesterday to check.)
It was fun running wild over the other civs! Now ... "ve send zem to dah kooler" (another bad german accent.)
Is Lt 'Killer' M up?
Looks like our game is becoming more of a challenge. I've missed reading the posts the last couple of days (I guess the forums were down on Monday, and I didn't get free yesterday to check.) It was fun running wild over the other civs! Now ... "ve send zem to dah kooler" (another bad german accent.)
Is Lt 'Killer' M up?
docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
Here's the running order just FYI:
Cgannon64
Killer <- Up Next
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Sealman
Docceh
wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Cgannon64
Killer <- Up Next
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Sealman
Docceh
wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Lt. 'Killer' M.
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wheeeeeeee........
got it!
cgannon: a very very verrrrrrrry nice peace of work in a ****ty situation!
got it!
cgannon: a very very verrrrrrrry nice peace of work in a ****ty situation!
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(1) 1200 AD - attack on Chinese capital is too risky - start pillaging
around it.
(2) 1210 AD - Chinese Cav kills one Immortal. Make peace with Germany for
all they can pay excpet the techs - need the Immos to strangel China.
(3) 1220 AD - Another Immo lost, but this time the Cav is down to 1 HP and
will take 1 turn to heal. Disconnect Chinese Horses Knight kills one
Musketman in Beijing. China is willing to give 30 Gold for peace - will
get better Rush settler in Babylon for war-city near Beijing.
(4) 1230 AD - another Musketman falls to a Knight. America pays 80 Gold to
extend peace - should keep them quiet. Abandon berlin, rush settler in
Tlateloco to replace it. Berlin is too flip.risky and has such a large
radius that it would block our advance to China.
(5) 1240 AD - Immos close to Beijing now - Pikes guarding they probably
do not have Barracks there - or why would the Musketmen they surely rushed
be regulars?
(6) 1250 AD - bombarding Beijing 4 times give 4 failures antioch
founded. Tarsus takes place of Berlin. America suddenly goes furious (they
were annoyed before) - I sign ROP with them (surprisingly they take it
flat
)
(7) 1255 AD - I smelled the rat - but I was too late! America ROP rapes us
and takes Kiev with Cavalry. They also try for Lyon but have to retreat.
Cut their colony on Horses and cut their Saltpeter.
We get a leader!
Take Beijing, form Army there (will leave it empty atm). 1 Immortal lost
(only - ), 5 defenders killed, we now have Bachs
There are no units near Kiev that can reatke it. I rush lots of Knights in
the north-western area.
China will only give 5 Gold for peace....
around it.
(2) 1210 AD - Chinese Cav kills one Immortal. Make peace with Germany for
all they can pay excpet the techs
- need the Immos to strangel China.(3) 1220 AD - Another Immo lost, but this time the Cav is down to 1 HP and
will take 1 turn to heal. Disconnect Chinese Horses
Knight kills one Musketman in Beijing. China is willing to give 30 Gold for peace - will
get better
Rush settler in Babylon for war-city near Beijing.(4) 1230 AD - another Musketman falls to a Knight. America pays 80 Gold to
extend peace - should keep them quiet. Abandon berlin, rush settler in
Tlateloco to replace it. Berlin is too flip.risky and has such a large
radius that it would block our advance to China.
(5) 1240 AD - Immos close to Beijing now - Pikes guarding
they probably do not have Barracks there - or why would the Musketmen they surely rushed
be regulars?
(6) 1250 AD - bombarding Beijing 4 times give 4 failures
antioch founded. Tarsus takes place of Berlin. America suddenly goes furious (they
were annoyed before) - I sign ROP with them (surprisingly they take it
flat
)(7) 1255 AD - I smelled the rat - but I was too late! America ROP rapes us
and takes Kiev with Cavalry. They also try for Lyon but have to retreat.
Cut their colony on Horses and cut their Saltpeter.
We get a leader!
Take Beijing, form Army there (will leave it empty atm). 1 Immortal lost
(only -
), 5 defenders killed, we now have Bachs There are no units near Kiev that can reatke it. I rush lots of Knights in
the north-western area.
China will only give 5 Gold for peace....
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(8) 1260 AD - US and Iroqs sign MPP, and Iroqs declare war (because of the Pikeman who pillaged the saltpeter and just got killed :crazyeyes:
retake Kiev with an archer (luck is soooo fickle). Move rushed Knights to Boston.
(9) 1265 AD - The first American Riflemen show up Move towards China, pillage some more over there.
(10) 1270 AD - American Cav attacks Boston and has to retreat - kill it w Immortal. Approach Iroqtown with bombard group. Americans won't talk despite 5 Knights in their territory. China doesn't have access to Saltpeter anymore.
(11) 1275 AD - nothing from Abe except a Rifleman who dies attacking the immo who killed the Cav, China offers peace (refuse), Beijing flips - oh well, has 1 Speraman now
(12) 1280 AD - American Cav attacks Knight on mountain and wins Retake Beijing loosing 1 Immo. bombard gives no hits.
(13) 1285 AD - American Rifleman kills exposed Immortal - we revenge him. This is probably the best way to do it - lure them our then kill them - we cna afford to loose some Immos if we can keep Abe away from our cities. We take Shanghai (do NOT ask about the losses!), Oh, btw, no more Iroquese - they refused to talk Leave Beijing empty b/c of flip risk.
(14) 1290 AD - sure as hell Beijing flips. Retake it. America kills two Immos exposing a cav and a longbow. Kill them both loosing another Immo Abe still won't talk. Knight retreats from Rifleman in the open. Pillage American iron and Dyes.
China finally is willing to give more than Gold for peace - take Metallurgy, 5 Gold and three workers and WM. (they wanted 600 Gold and Wm for both techs -
)
(15) 1295 AD - China asks us out - war declared! I hope Beijing flips and we can retake it, then get a tech for peace. Kill exposed US Rifleman for 1 Immo. Kill Musketman near Thebes. Salamance rushes Library. Can't help but attack Canton - well, one less war to worry about!
Our (empty) army is near Thebes. We can now pillage the US into the ground.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Killabe.zip
retake Kiev with an archer (luck is soooo fickle). Move rushed Knights to Boston.
(9) 1265 AD - The first American Riflemen show up
Move towards China, pillage some more over there.(10) 1270 AD - American Cav attacks Boston and has to retreat - kill it w Immortal. Approach Iroqtown with bombard group. Americans won't talk despite 5 Knights in their territory. China doesn't have access to Saltpeter anymore.
(11) 1275 AD - nothing from Abe except a Rifleman who dies attacking the immo who killed the Cav, China offers peace (refuse), Beijing flips
- oh well, has 1 Speraman now (12) 1280 AD - American Cav attacks Knight on mountain and wins
Retake Beijing loosing 1 Immo. bombard gives no hits.(13) 1285 AD - American Rifleman kills exposed Immortal - we revenge him. This is probably the best way to do it - lure them our then kill them - we cna afford to loose some Immos if we can keep Abe away from our cities. We take Shanghai (do NOT ask about the losses!), Oh, btw, no more Iroquese - they refused to talk
Leave Beijing empty b/c of flip risk. (14) 1290 AD - sure as hell Beijing flips. Retake it. America kills two Immos exposing a cav and a longbow. Kill them both loosing another Immo
Abe still won't talk. Knight retreats from Rifleman in the open. Pillage American iron and Dyes.China finally is willing to give more than Gold for peace - take Metallurgy, 5 Gold and three workers and WM. (they wanted 600 Gold and Wm for both techs -
)(15) 1295 AD - China asks us out - war declared! I hope Beijing flips and we can retake it, then get a tech for peace
. Kill exposed US Rifleman for 1 Immo. Kill Musketman near Thebes. Salamance rushes Library. Can't help but attack Canton - well, one less war to worry about!Our (empty) army is near Thebes. We can now pillage the US into the ground.
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how to deal with France: I'd suggest a massive ROP rape - buy ROP at any cost, station troops in their lands on EVERY tile, declare war and pillage everything
Remember: we MUST kill everyone except the Roman island before UN!!!!!
Remember: we MUST kill everyone except the Roman island before UN!!!!!
Okay, I've got the save game. I'll try to get it out tomorrow morning. Happy Halloween! 
docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
muwwahhaaahaahahaa!!!
I vant... to suck... yoouur....
I vant... to suck... yoouur....
docceh
Iron Maiden Fan!
...blood
