King of the World #13: Asoka

Seems like a tech like Aesthetics/Compass will be necessary for self-research in order to trade for Alpha & other back-fill.

It's going to be fun watching you push back the Arabic cultural borders in the mid-east when you start cranking the culture! :)
 
Persepolis isn't too terribly essential considering Russia is empty on this map and Arabia won't send a galley to settle it due to the AI refusing to use sea routes to access land on their home continent, they'll go up around the black sea if you don't open borders, it'll be a few years before you risk them snatching it from you. Same with Southern India and the khmer.

Continue your focus on rex, get Iron Working ASAP. Try to settle Persepolis as soon as you can as it's a good production site especially early on. After this settle southern india and cottage heavily. After that you could colonize indonesia or start going after the rich lands of indochina via war with Surry, then proceed into China.
 
The advisors were in agreement with Lord Asoka's gut feeling. Justinian's offer was a good one. The Byzantine emissary, bedecked with fine robes and precious metals, was called back into the simple, yet tasteful, Indian throne room. "Inform your lord Justinian that we will, indeed, exchange our metallurgical knowledge for your secrets of drawing sounds and taming the beasts of the field":

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With this, the life-giving Cows roaming free through the streets of Delhi were finally herded into what is now known as "The Cattle District." Their rich milk was shipped throughout the empire, lessening malnutrition in the mosquito-infested Babylonian Flood Plains.

An Arab trader from Medina, one Yusif Gamal, was ambushed by bandits outside of Tehran. They killed his guards and took everything from him: goods, camels, even his personal store of food and drink. Badly beaten, starving, and utterly destitute, the merchant headed into Tehran, begging for scraps of food. The townsfolk took him in, bathed his tired legs, and provided him with fresh clothes, good food, and an armed retinue to escort him back to his own lands. Gamal was so impressed by the generosity he sold off what remained of his fortune and became a Hindu mystic. He returned, years later, to Tehran, where he shared his faith with those who had awakened it:

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Lord Asoka rejoiced at the news of Hinduism spreading within his borders. He immediately visited Tehran, met with old Yusif Gamal, and publicly converted to the new faith.

In 1000 B.C., the tide of Nationless Ones seeking plunder in civilized lands reached a crisis point:

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Delhi was protected by experienced soldiers trained in the arts of war. The western colonies, though, were garrisoned by mere honor guards equipped with outdated weaponry. This began a dark period for Babylon and Tehran, as Farms and Villages were left abandoned and those who were not busy forging crude Axes were given them to fend off the hordes with little or no real training.

The Nationless Ones' assault on India proper was more subtle. They snuck into Delhi, getting jobs on Farms and hanging around the Granary. They spread lies and fear among the good Indian people. They exaggerated the reports of the skirmishers in the west and told stories of a massive army coming east to crush all in its path. The intruders decried Asoka as a weak leader who would let the city fall into ruin. Predictably, the hysteria reached a fever pitch:

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The Delhi garrison was overwhelmed by rioters who torched the countryside and burned the Granary before melting away into the wilderness. In those early years, this was a devastating blow. Workers rushed back from Mesopotamia to rebuild.

As Indian officials struggled to restore order in Delhi, the Barbarians boiled forth from their hidden city, eager to claim a larger prize than the few barrels of grain that the instigators had stolen away with:

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Able to finally identify a military target, Asoka's Axemen swooped down to crush the attempted invasion. The city was saved, but it had been crippled from the riots. Such a disaster could not be allowed to happen again. The Barbarian city would have to fall.

These were hard times, but they were also times of growth. Despite the widespread destruction, the people of Delhi were able to equip a band of adventurous spirits who wanted to start over somewhere new. These hardy souls founded Persepolis, laying claim to the Persian Plateau:

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Persepolis was an arid place, prone to Barbarian attack, and so those first years were hard, but there were Sheep and Deer to eat, and Hills and Iron to provide building materials. Once a Monument was built, the people began to gain confidence and the city became productive.

With Farms burning, Settlers expanding, and Axemen being pressed into service, science and the arts languished during these years. Were it not for alternative forms of research, nothing might have been learned. First, the good people of Tehran continued to show their generosity:

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And Charlemagne taught India those tips and tricks that the rest of the world had mastered millenia ago:

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The advisors were not consulted in this matter. These were basic technologies, yes, but scientific research stood essentially at a standstill. Unhappiness at overcrowding and regrettable incidents of slavery wracked the empire, and Ivory trinkets claimed from Indian Elephants could alleviate that. Massive Stone deposits outside Tehran lay exposed to the sun, unquarried. And the Indian people could not eye the oceans in fear forever. Eventually, the bounties of the seas would need to be harvested. Lord Asoka also wished to strengthen the bonds between the Indian and Holy Roman peoples. With Justinian converting to Buddhism, Asoka needed an ally on the European continent.

As most of the empire focused on rebuilding, a pair of Axeman detachments ventured into the southern Jungles to exact revenge on the Nationless Ones. They found themselves confronted by a pair of Archers garrisoning the Barbarian city, as well as another few roaming the surrounding lands. Attack would be hopeless without reinforcements. But, in taking out the Jungle Marauders, one of Asoka's Axemen found himself exposed. In a wild stroke of luck, one of the Garrison Archers left the city to make the kill. The other detachment, after doing some quick field exercises in City Raiding, swooped in on the now underdefended bandit camp:

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Had the city of Gaul flown a flag and had a leader willing to negotiate a settlement, Lord Asoka would have sent out diplomats in a heartbeat. This, though, was a nest of common criminals. Officially, the camp was dispersed and the ringleaders were arrested. In fact, the place was locked up and burned to the ground, with noncombatants still inside. Lord Asoka hid his face in shame and spent two weeks in uninterrupted meditation to show penance to the gods.

The elimination of the bandit camp, though, allowed for the construction of the city of Vishakhapatnam, The City of Destiny:

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Shortly thereafter, Indian artists rejoiced, for new avenues of Aesthetics had been discovered after centuries of experimentation. Scientists, too, were pleased, for this breakthrough could be traded for valuable Technologies on the open market. And it was at this crucial juncture that he once again turned to his advisors.

Here's a look at the empire as it is currently constituted:

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Saladin and Justinian encroach on our borders to the west, and China and the Khmer threaten from the east. The north remains open, but full of Nationless Ones intent on slaughter.

Here is the Tech situation at this time:

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Suryavarman presently offers the best deal, offering Alphabet and one other Tech in exchange for Iron Working and Aesthetics. The other Civs are, of course, willing to offer a handful of trash for Aesthetics.

And the Diplomacy Web:

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As you can see, things are starting to break along religious lines. Which is to be expected.

So what now? I think the Statue of Zeus is worth pursuing. What should our next Tech goal be? Should we take Sury's trade? Should we spread Aesthetics to anyone else? Is my pace of expansion too fast or too slow? Anything else I'm missing?

Here's the save:
 
Neal, rename Babylon to Ur or my empire will eat yours.

Take Sury's deal. 32 beakers per turn in 410 BC on a huge, resource-filled map is not enough.
 
Take Sury's deal, then barter Aesthetics for whatever else you can get. Hopefully someone will be willing to deal mathematics. Also, Zara has currency, so if you can get math from someone else, then maybe you could even barter math and Aesthetics for currency from him. Maybe not now, but maybe if someone else researches it soon.

Maps like this, if you don't have land like Europe, then you need to get what you can from bartering.
 
Zara DOESN'T have currency, he doesn't even have Code of Laws or Mathematics, the 2 pre requisites for Currency. that's why he can't research it.

Try trade Iron working for alphabet, put some turns into Alphabet, build the Aesthetics wonders, or reap some cash for them.

NO ONE HAS CURRENCY..NO ONE.
 
Zara DOESN'T have currency, he doesn't even have Code of Laws or Mathematics, the 2 pre requisites for Currency. that's why he can't research it.

Try trade Iron working for alphabet, put some turns into Alphabet, build the Aesthetics wonders, or reap some cash for them.

NO ONE HAS CURRENCY..NO ONE.

False. The Alpha->Curr; therefore Zara has it. Or if you prefer, Curr->CoL, so Zara must have it since he can research CoL but does not have Preisthood.
 
Zara DOESN'T have currency, he doesn't even have Code of Laws or Mathematics, the 2 pre requisites for Currency. that's why he can't research it.

Try trade Iron working for alphabet, put some turns into Alphabet, build the Aesthetics wonders, or reap some cash for them.

NO ONE HAS CURRENCY..NO ONE.

Currency is one way into code of laws, not the other way around. And of the two routes into code of laws, he lacks priesthood, so he must have currency as others have noted correctly.
 
As for the Statue of Zeus and Aesthetics, let's see who else has ivory. Qin, Zara, and Mansa all have ivory around their land, but who has claimed it already? My bet is that it may only be Mansa at this point. Since he has almost no wonder production capability with his land, you can then feel quite free to trade the tech around for your purposes!
 
I'm not sure if the SoZ is very good wonder to pursue. Of course it can help you to build up your culture, so I'm not totally against it.

I'd try to get Alpha from Sury after I'd invested few hammers on SoZ and then try to trade Currency from Zara.
 
Zara DOESN'T have currency, he doesn't even have Code of Laws or Mathematics, the 2 pre requisites for Currency. that's why he can't research it.

Try trade Iron working for alphabet, put some turns into Alphabet, build the Aesthetics wonders, or reap some cash for them.

NO ONE HAS CURRENCY..NO ONE.

False. The Alpha->Curr; therefore Zara has it. Or if you prefer, Curr->CoL, so Zara must have it since he can research CoL but does not have Preisthood.

Currency is one way into code of laws, not the other way around. And of the two routes into code of laws, he lacks priesthood, so he must have currency as others have noted correctly.

In addition to what the other two have said, Zara has 60 gold available for trade. You need currency to trade gold.
 
I think you should seel Aesthetics for what you can get.

1) Get alphabet from Sury.
2) Get archery/meditation/polytheism for Aesthitics if you can
3) Trade Aesthetics to someone for priesthood/Monotheism.
4) Eventually Math should open up.

Convert to OR, send a Hindu missionary to Sury. Send a Buddhist to Qin.

Once you get Polytheism head towards Literature then Currency. You expansion looks fine but you may want to drop one more city NW to keep the nationless ones out. Or, drop a few good units up there to prevent interferance!

You have inspired me to play earth maps and finished my first one yesterday, A HAtshepsut Space race!
 
In addition to what the other two have said, Zara has 60 gold available for trade. You need currency to trade gold.

That's how I noticed.

But even for alphabet, archery/med/poly, priesthood/mono, trading Aesthetics around will be worth it. Someone else is bound to get it soon, and you don't want to end up not getting all you can for it.
 
Tehran has good production and needs culture. That should be your site for SoZ, or better yet the Hanging gardens if you are able to broker your way up to Math quickly.
 
How many workers do you have? I see 2...

EDIT -- or, 2 stacks -- I guess you've got a bunch in the india - stack.

Spawnbusting looks good.
 
Tehran has good production and needs culture. That should be your site for SoZ, or better yet the Hanging gardens if you are able to broker your way up to Math quickly.

Not necessarily saying that this is a bad idea, but I don't think Tehran is slated to be one of the "big 3" culture cities. It seems like the plan is to lay down a lot of cottages (Dehli, Babylon, and newest city) and use the slider. So not sure the culture in Tehran would hasten a victory.
 
Not necessarily saying that this is a bad idea, but I don't think Tehran is slated to be one of the "big 3" culture cities. It seems like the plan is to lay down a lot of cottages (Dehli, Babylon, and newest city) and use the slider. So not sure the culture in Tehran would hasten a victory.

The way I see it, his big 3 are not going to be good production sites. So culture will come from commerce and specialists, not Wonderwhoring. On the other hand, Tehran has the production and needs the culture to compete with Medina.
 
I don't see why Neal shouldn't go for the Zeus wonder. He's relatively early to aesthetics, has ivory, and should have sufficient hammers for a quick completion. The statue is great as a denial wonder. And the national sports league quest is great with the SoZ.
 
I don't see why Neal shouldn't go for the Zeus wonder. He's relatively early to aesthetics, has ivory, and should have sufficient hammers for a quick completion. The statue is great as a denial wonder. And the national sports league quest is great with the SoZ.

Plus it gives GA gpps. :) Surya and Mansa will have jumbos, Qin and Louis are IND, so don't trade aesth to any of them. (Sal might have Jumbos if he's settled egypt [possible], as well as Izzy if she's settled N. Africa [unlikely]). As stated, it will definitely help with the culture wars in the middle east.

EDIT: Although both Surya and Mansa will have poor :hammers:, so it would probably be a safe trade to them. Qin will definitely try to build SoZ if he gets the chance.
 
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