King of the World #8: Shaka

I love it! War Elephant and Impi hordes taking over Egypt! Even better will be when you introduce them to Hannibal after Ramses is pacified. Talk about historical irony :lol:

Also; Dat looks like Dr. Zaius.
 
You probably don't even need Cats with elephants - just make sure you can rush a couple through right when you get them, as long as you beat longbows elephants alone with Impi support can take the rest of the continent - I think you have all the metals already. And stop focussing on Zara, you need to hit Mansa and Rameses before they get bows.
 
Neal: yeah, I meant the tile that gets the crabs and either the silver or gems. You can't get all three from one spot. I would have sacrificed a commerce tile to get the food.

I agree. Hammers may be wanted in production cities and commerce in science cities, but in every city food should be the #1 priority.
 
Finish off Zara then go after Rameses. After that, vassal or kill Mansa then go after that cultural victory.
 
if you don't have all the religions, that's ok. Just conquer someone who has the ones you need.

"Send me a missionary for your new religion."
"No. We will never help you and your cultural ways."
BLAM!
 
We suffered some setbacks in this round, but we also made some major strides.

I started out by sending an Impi to scope out Aksum:

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The Ethiopian Axeman, frothing at the mouth, shouted threats from the city gates. I immediately gave the Impi the Shock promotion and, keeping calm in the chaos of battle, they managed to come out victorious, butchering the madmen (and, incidentally, Zara's last metal units). Of course, the Archers then swarmed out and slew the weakened Impi, but I'd call that more than a fair trade. Had that Axeman been holed up in the city, he'd have been a pain and a half to dislodge.

By 825 B.C., I finally had a force I felt confident assaulting Aksum with:

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As you can see, Zara made the tactical blunders of spending his hammers on a Settler and a Chariot against my force of Spearmen. A couple of Archers and I'd've had to call it off. As it was, my CRII Impi somehow got ridiculously lucky and took out a Guerilla II Archer at 0.7% odds.

Aksum fell and Zara Yaqob was given a warrior's death without a single Zulu casualty:

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The plan is to resettle Aksum where it can nab the Fish (I would have done it already, but there were... delays).

In 800 B.C., the people of Nairobi learned the secret ways of the Malinesian holy men:

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Our goal of religious cosmopolitanism is in our sights. Now we may not even need to kill Mansa Musa. I mean, we may still want to, we just won't need to. :devil:

This is not to say that the people of Ulundi are barbaric savages. No, we have vibrant traditions of science and culture:

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It was 27 beakers toward Sailing, or +1 per turn in perpetuity for a modest fee. I went with the long term solution. It's about time that random events started working in our favor.

In 700 B.C., with my Aksum forces intact and healed, it was time to make Ramesses fear the Reaper:

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I hadn't supplemented the army with Catapults or War Elephants (accursed HBR requirement...), but the Impis alone were enough to take Memphis:

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That'll probably end up being one of our Cultural Victory cities.

We even set up a super Impi:

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I did this largely so that his Mobility would continue to be useful once he was upgraded. I know, I know. A Medic would have been a better choice. Sadly, I sent him off to the front, leaving the Settler to be butchered by an Egyptian Warrior hiding in the fog of war. Now that was stupid of me. But it was my mistake, so I'm going to live with it.

I figured out who had founded Buddhism, and, guess what? It wasn't Isabella!

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Well, now, that's an interesting twist.

Numerically, my forces had no business making an assault on Thebes:

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But, to my fierce Impis, those War Chariots were about as effective as Scouts. So, realistically speaking, Thebes was defended by two Archers. I liked those odds quite a bit better.

As it turned out, my calculations were correct:

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That'll be our second Culture city. And those barbarians are now officially no longer our problem.

In 440 B.C., Saladin beat us to one of our long-term projects:

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... I'm awfully tempted to send an Impi over there.

Heliopolis, Egypt's final bastion, still stood strong. I had three veteran but exhausted Impis. I figured it was worth a peek. Lo! A Warrior, a War Chariot, and an Archer! And no walls! Why not...

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And then there were 31 (remember, India was wiped out millenia ago by unknown forces).

So here's a look at the Zulu empire:

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And a representative peek at the Tech Screen:

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I'm thinking I can probably get Alphabet for Aesthetics plus Mathematics, and then go on a tech-trading spree to backfill.

So, what do you all think? At this point we share the continent with Mansa and Hannibal. I'm nearly done with Aesthetics on my way to Drama and Music. The religious techs can probably be had through trade. So should we put our neighbors to the spear and claim the continent or start focusing on Cathedrals and Theaters? I'm thinking that Ulundi, Memphis and Thebes will make reasonable cornerstones to a cultural victory, though Timbuktu might be better long-term. I don't like the odds of Impi against Skirmishers, though, so I'd probably want to wait at least until we can field War Elephants for that.

Here's the save (remember to load the mod!):
 
Great round and true Zulu aggressiveness. You really got the most out of each unit, and a little luck helps.

Call me crazy, but your biggest threat at the moment is probably Saladin -- he has the best, closest land and nowhere to expand but towards you. On another map, I would say take out Mansa first, but Mali's land is so poor that he can wait, IMO. Same with Hannibal.
 
Nice! That was relatively quick and painless.

re: Hannibal & Mansa, you have two options - rush them all and let Sid sort em out or wait to see what the diplomatic situation is. Mansa as we all know is destined to be somebody's . .. .. .. .. . (maybe even yours) but Hannibal by now has had contact with every European civ. I have no idea how successful Hannibal is on this map so he may not be able to offer anything to Europe to pull his fat out of the fire. Mansa however...

Mansa is also going to found some cities for you but will they be in places you want?

The only other thought is that Saladin is going settle Ethiopia pretty soon but you know that. :p

Taking out Egypt was key though. You now control the best of Africa. Now show those dirty Europeans the power of the dark continent!
 
Did you win the war against eygpt becuase of Akbar? Looks like it to me!

What is your long term disposition towards Saladin? He has the hindi holy city....
Maybe build a canal/bottleneck city at the suez? With GWall defensive wars could be profitable.


Kill Mansa. Mali has the jewish holy city, he will be hated and a pretty easy target. Keeping him around to trade will only get you -diplomatic.
 
Pick three excellent sites for your culture cities and turtle up. I wouldn't recommend Ulundi, a foodrich city would do better, especially after the sistine chapel. What's the deal with the kongo-delta jungle, if it's all grassland underneath, that would be a excellent capital for bureaucracy with a ton of windmills, and it's central-like for reduced upkeep, culture-wise, the Paya, pacifism and running a buch of early artists to spawm some GA's and settle them will make any third city (besides Memphis and thebes) eligeble.
 
Building the forbidden palace in egypt has the same effect as moving the palace. For a culture victory you want Free Speech as soon as possible, so its not worth the anarchy to run Bureaucracy for a few turns. (actualy, if you can go to liberalism with theology->paper->education (possible without civil sercive), you will have free speech before bureaucracy)

Mecca is definatley an african city, at least its culture is touching the african coast... i am sure there are enough volunteers in the zulu army that want to visit Mecca once the shrine is built there. :) You need to got to war with Saladin anyway, this city in Madagaskar should be yours.
 
Free speech won't do anything until there's a base for it to work on, it gives a 100% bonus, sure, but that might not translate in a whole lotta culture right off the bat. If you're planning on a very early cultural won, skipping bureau might be the best option, if you're still building all the culture providing buildings anyway, skipping straight to free speech will only hinder your progress toward the ultimate target.

For the short term plans; keep MM alive, get into pacifism and CS when you've whipped infrastructure, and get a decent number of GAs out of Memphis and Thebes for settling in the target cities. Building up a base culture output in them for later bonusses like cathedrals and FS has priority, looking at the timescale, you can still build quite some buildings that will double in cultural output in 1000 years, so pump out as many as you can as fast as you can until 250 AD or so, those will still double.
 
Great updates, Neal! A showcase of proper expansion with limited resources. I won't even ask how your economy is going to hold up so post on, post on! :D
 
Leave Hannibal alone. You WILL NOT be able to keep his cities, as they will be completely swamped by Portuguese/ Spanish/ Roman/ Greek culture, and will just revolt to one of those civs. He's absolutely no threat militarily, and there's no point in helping Joao/ Izzy/ Auggie/ Peri by giving them free city sites in N. Africa. Besides, there's nothing there you really need.

Re-settle Aksum ASAP. Sal will settle it if you don't - I wouldn't be surprised to see an arabian city there very soon, since he's already running settlers down your coast.

If you're going to take out Sal, you might as well take the entire middle east: Uruk (so-so city), Babylon (GREAT city site), Persepolis (good production city, which you need), and 2 of Mehmed's citys (N. of Uruk and NE of Uruk in the mountains). There are 3 great choke points into the middle east (e. of Persepolis, the city N. of Uruk, and the mountain city NE of Uruk) that will be very easy to defend, especially if your core culture cities are Thebes, Memphis, and Ulundi (thebes will be very vulnerable without taking out Sumeria). Mecca will be great with a shrine, and Babylon's flood plains are like having another Thebes.

I can't believe how lucky you were with those impis - esp. in Aksum. A little payback for your early misfortune with the cows in Ulundi. :lol:
 
What are your three cultural cities? Memphis, Thebes and Ulindi? If so, you'll probably need to build a wonder or two in Ulindi, as it looks pretty weak otherwise. Otherwise, your two goals for cultural victory should be to get free speech as soon as possible and set up a Great Artist farm.

I would also recommend settling a city in the jungle sooner rather than later, so that it can get going on cottages sooner.
 
re: Luck- Yeah. That was insane. I was happy when one Archer went down, ecstatic when the Impi took out a second, and dumbfounded when the third one crumpled. But we've suffered some slings and arrows this game, so it's nice to catch a break now and again.

re: The Aksum site- I think the weird AI "Why swim when you can walk" bug will keep Aksum safe from Saladin's settlers, at least by sea. And I think I can keep track of Arab homesteaders shleppin' past Memphis. The Settler is halfway built in Ulundi.

re: Saladin- I don't really want to turn this into another bloodlust game (I kind of want to stick to Africa), and Saladin is, at least for now, our friend. And he tends to be pretty loyal to his religious brethren. I'm thinking I can maybe get away with a quick raid to take Madagascar, but more likely I think I'm going to play nice.

re: Hannibal- Good points. I think he lives. He seems to be in a rough spot on this map. North Africa's got some decent city sites, but you almost have your hands full just holding onto your BFC tiles in the face of European culture.

re: Mansa- Yeah, I think he has to go. That'll be our great Elephant/Catapult war, I think, and then it'll be a matter of turtling up and focusing on culture. Ulundi really would be a pain to get to Legendary, and the Jewish shrine would go a long way to financing our economy.
 
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