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That was my fault...I summoned him. I thought he was playing, not just a standby.
Kingdom Come: Deception (Game Thread)
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That was my fault...I summoned him. I thought he was playing, not just a standby.
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why are argon and takhisis in your eod range
come join me on johanna or raskol
takhisis might just be playing stupid village takhisis with his complete noncomittal to playing the game
(though i am very tempted to lynch him for exactly that)
argon seems like normal argon, what am i missing
come join me on johanna or raskol
takhisis might just be playing stupid village takhisis with his complete noncomittal to playing the game
(though i am very tempted to lynch him for exactly that)
argon seems like normal argon, what am i missing
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Johanna one posting is townie Johanna. It's probably also wolfy Johanna. I figure Jo can be gotten easy enough later if wolf, but if that turns into a hard push I'd go along.
Raskol I'd join on easier because effortless Raskol is a wolfy Raskol, in my limited experience, but maybe he's off to a slow start and if he is town he's a good reader so I'd hate to waste him.
Argon is normal Argon, but normal argon is a fountain of chaos. My wolf game I was half ready to make him an honorary wolf because I was dodging under the cover he laid down the whole time. I don't think he's particularly wolfy, I just consider him among the most expendable villagers in the event of a mislynch.
Takhisis...to quote Arakhor, lynch the lurkers and liars. He lied about not reading the thread. That's a "lie no one will take seriously so not like a real lie," but it is a lie and he has followed it by acting like it was the truth, and using it as a cover for lurking and not being the usual instigator Tak. Then he lied again when he got called on it and claimed that he "has accomplished something." I took the challenge and reread his posts and the context. "I have accomplished something but you have to figure out what" is BS for "yeah, haven't done anything but sow some confusion." It's wolfy Tak, not just Tak playing hammy villager. But also, as you say, if he's playing hammy villager to that degree he isn't helping anyway so as usual I am tempted to lynch him anyway.
I also have a connection to explore if Tak were to flip wolf. Don't want to stir that pot yet in case he flips town.
Raskol I'd join on easier because effortless Raskol is a wolfy Raskol, in my limited experience, but maybe he's off to a slow start and if he is town he's a good reader so I'd hate to waste him.
Argon is normal Argon, but normal argon is a fountain of chaos. My wolf game I was half ready to make him an honorary wolf because I was dodging under the cover he laid down the whole time. I don't think he's particularly wolfy, I just consider him among the most expendable villagers in the event of a mislynch.
Takhisis...to quote Arakhor, lynch the lurkers and liars. He lied about not reading the thread. That's a "lie no one will take seriously so not like a real lie," but it is a lie and he has followed it by acting like it was the truth, and using it as a cover for lurking and not being the usual instigator Tak. Then he lied again when he got called on it and claimed that he "has accomplished something." I took the challenge and reread his posts and the context. "I have accomplished something but you have to figure out what" is BS for "yeah, haven't done anything but sow some confusion." It's wolfy Tak, not just Tak playing hammy villager. But also, as you say, if he's playing hammy villager to that degree he isn't helping anyway so as usual I am tempted to lynch him anyway.
I also have a connection to explore if Tak were to flip wolf. Don't want to stir that pot yet in case he flips town.
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fair enough
i know both joan and raskol can be better and do better so im hoping a wagon on them makes them consider showing it
i know both joan and raskol can be better and do better so im hoping a wagon on them makes them consider showing it
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That's certainly reasonable, and yes they can. I think they are just as likely to show up better on their own as they are under a wagon that they may very well not take seriously anyway. I think it would be hard to get any real support for either of them as a day one lynch given all the other prospects, and they would both know that.
Maybe my view is skewed by the fact that I'm not taking the wagon on me particularly seriously.
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Let's see if Takhisis takes one seriously.
Vote: Takhisis
Vote: Takhisis
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Just ran through a vote tally, and Tak's vote for me also just reeks of opportunistic wolf. I don't take the wagon on me seriously, but it is there and a wolf might think a chance to get rid of me is too good to pass up.
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what are teh chances its just tak being tak though?
and hes not thinking about best chance to get rid of you
and hes not thinking about best chance to get rid of you
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Fifty fifty, maybe. It is potentially the same slank play he made in Mario as wolf, and it is potentially just Tak being Tak.
Tell you what. If he wakes up to a wagon he'll have time to defend himself, and that defense will tell us which is more likely. When EoD gets close if you think he's defended himself adequately we go somewhere else. Specially since Raskol and Jo will have either made appearances by then or not.
Afternoon Tally
Timsup2nothin (3): Rrraskolnikov, Pzelda, Takhisis
GamezRule (3): MarcherJovian, Samson, Golden1Knight
Rrraskolnikov (2): Csargo, Visorslash
LordArgon (1): Topsecret
Dolbster (1): JohannaK
Visorslash (1): Rakkoon
MarcherJovian (1): GamezRule
Takhisis (1): Timsup2nothin
Abstaining (2): Dolbster, LordArgon
(I believe that this is the correct tally. Let me know if it isn't.)
Timsup2nothin (3): Rrraskolnikov, Pzelda, Takhisis
GamezRule (3): MarcherJovian, Samson, Golden1Knight
Rrraskolnikov (2): Csargo, Visorslash
LordArgon (1): Topsecret
Dolbster (1): JohannaK
Visorslash (1): Rakkoon
MarcherJovian (1): GamezRule
Takhisis (1): Timsup2nothin
Abstaining (2): Dolbster, LordArgon
(I believe that this is the correct tally. Let me know if it isn't.)
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sure
guess we'll see
what do you think of dolbster?
guess we'll see
what do you think of dolbster?
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That's what I got except I missed the Argon unvote, so I think you are right.
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Dolbster could be a wolf. No way to tell. But if he is town he's a very valuable town so I sure don't wanna lynch him day one. Kinda like you, it's too poor a lynch if it's a mislynch because it saves the wolves a kill they will likely make early. If he's still alive on day three I'll ask him why.
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vote: Takhisis
GamezRule has spoken up and that vote has done it’s job, I agree that Takhisis is acting a bit oddly and not really being super productive, so maybe the threat of lynch can help fix that. I’m not super keen on lynching Tim just yet, considering he’s at starting up conversations and at least playing the part of acting constructively.
vote: Takhisis
GamezRule has spoken up and that vote has done it’s job, I agree that Takhisis is acting a bit oddly and not really being super productive, so maybe the threat of lynch can help fix that. I’m not super keen on lynching Tim just yet, considering he’s at starting up conversations and at least playing the part of acting constructively.
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Visor, if you add some horsepower here Tak will have to deal with it in the morning and we'll see what he's made of.
Jovian, if you were to get on the record with some opinions on other folk it would be really useful later on.
Jovian, if you were to get on the record with some opinions on other folk it would be really useful later on.
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welcome welcome marcher
how much you read?
how much you read?
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I gotta get some sleep...I'll do a full read in the morning and be ready for the big finish.
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Quick read through the thread:
Aight, so first 3 pages are mostly just banter, random votes, and some meta-based speculation off of one or two posts, it helped get the conversation moving but no real hard information, could be active talkie townies, could be scum faking being a talking townie.
Page 4 is when things start getting interesting where Tim makes explicit he’s trying out a new strategy which raised suspicions and caused Tim to be the early lynch leader.
Page 5 is where Lord Argon made the really weird claim about being mortal enemies with someone illiterate. I’m not really sure what to make of that. One thing to note is that csargo made a public claim to being illiterate. At the end of Page 5 is where Tim dropped the his player-by-player analysis.
Page 6. Samson does that interesting analysis of the forum post numbering. Tim makes a bet that Visor is scum if he survives past night 2. Topsecret makes that post explicitly asking a few people for their opinions on other. Dolbster does some analysis—note he finds Tak towncore for being illiterate, which seems odd and might be either pointing-to or faking some private role information.
Page 7. Talk returns about who is/isn’t illiterate and what LA means about being enemies with an illiterate person. Tim thinks asking about everyone’s literacy is a distraction that wastes time, and wants to move onto more productive stuff. LA admits that the illiteracy thing was a day 1 shenanigan.
Page 8. LA says he’s pretty sure that the two admitted illiterates are on his side. Topsecret does an analysis of all players and Samson follows suit.
Page 9. Rakkoon wakes up and puts in two cents. Interesting to note that the people he thinks lean scummy share significant overlap with people topsecret thinks were acting townie. Tim gives a lynch list, also pretty opposed to what Rakkoon said.
Page 10. Tim & Visor do a bit of back-and-forth discussing leads and info
A few people stand out to me as a bit more suspicious than the rest. Lord Argon threw off discussion and caused a distraction with the illiterate targeting shenanigan. Tak has just been acting pretty bizarre, typing in all-caps and just generally making random, not-very-useful statements. Johanna only did one post but apparently that’s normal for him so I’ll defer to y’all. Rrr has also been pretty quiet so far. Golden Knight has very neatly talked a few times and shown activity without actually saying or contributing much, just some early banter and vote that followed a pressure lynch.
Rakkoon is interesting for having such an exactly contrary opinion and not really defending or arguing it. Any further in the game I’d probably see it as a red flag but on day 1 I’d consider having no opinion more suspicious than a contrary opinion. GamezRule has responded to the pressure lynch and claims to not really know what’s going on. I’m fine with him for now but if he doesn’t get caught up and start contributing then it’ll begin to look really suspicious.
Everyone else has kept up enough talking and analysis that I wouldn’t really want to lynch them day 1 without a clear and solid case against them.
Aight, so first 3 pages are mostly just banter, random votes, and some meta-based speculation off of one or two posts, it helped get the conversation moving but no real hard information, could be active talkie townies, could be scum faking being a talking townie.
Page 4 is when things start getting interesting where Tim makes explicit he’s trying out a new strategy which raised suspicions and caused Tim to be the early lynch leader.
Page 5 is where Lord Argon made the really weird claim about being mortal enemies with someone illiterate. I’m not really sure what to make of that. One thing to note is that csargo made a public claim to being illiterate. At the end of Page 5 is where Tim dropped the his player-by-player analysis.
Page 6. Samson does that interesting analysis of the forum post numbering. Tim makes a bet that Visor is scum if he survives past night 2. Topsecret makes that post explicitly asking a few people for their opinions on other. Dolbster does some analysis—note he finds Tak towncore for being illiterate, which seems odd and might be either pointing-to or faking some private role information.
Page 7. Talk returns about who is/isn’t illiterate and what LA means about being enemies with an illiterate person. Tim thinks asking about everyone’s literacy is a distraction that wastes time, and wants to move onto more productive stuff. LA admits that the illiteracy thing was a day 1 shenanigan.
Page 8. LA says he’s pretty sure that the two admitted illiterates are on his side. Topsecret does an analysis of all players and Samson follows suit.
Page 9. Rakkoon wakes up and puts in two cents. Interesting to note that the people he thinks lean scummy share significant overlap with people topsecret thinks were acting townie. Tim gives a lynch list, also pretty opposed to what Rakkoon said.
Page 10. Tim & Visor do a bit of back-and-forth discussing leads and info
A few people stand out to me as a bit more suspicious than the rest. Lord Argon threw off discussion and caused a distraction with the illiterate targeting shenanigan. Tak has just been acting pretty bizarre, typing in all-caps and just generally making random, not-very-useful statements. Johanna only did one post but apparently that’s normal for him so I’ll defer to y’all. Rrr has also been pretty quiet so far. Golden Knight has very neatly talked a few times and shown activity without actually saying or contributing much, just some early banter and vote that followed a pressure lynch.
Rakkoon is interesting for having such an exactly contrary opinion and not really defending or arguing it. Any further in the game I’d probably see it as a red flag but on day 1 I’d consider having no opinion more suspicious than a contrary opinion. GamezRule has responded to the pressure lynch and claims to not really know what’s going on. I’m fine with him for now but if he doesn’t get caught up and start contributing then it’ll begin to look really suspicious.
Everyone else has kept up enough talking and analysis that I wouldn’t really want to lynch them day 1 without a clear and solid case against them.
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Impressive read-through and analysis.
I didn't know I was doing the opposite of Tim and Top. But Top was on my list so that fits a theory. At least I'm interesting...
Somewhat earlier in the thread: I do remember getting steamrolled by a Joanna wolf train where J was being very quiet (I think we caught 0 wolves in my last 3 games and I was a villager in each) but I don't know how Joanna usually plays. Tim says it's normal, any other sources of information?
I didn't know I was doing the opposite of Tim and Top. But Top was on my list so that fits a theory. At least I'm interesting...
Somewhat earlier in the thread: I do remember getting steamrolled by a Joanna wolf train where J was being very quiet (I think we caught 0 wolves in my last 3 games and I was a villager in each) but I don't know how Joanna usually plays. Tim says it's normal, any other sources of information?
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