Knights of Honor

[Dabomb18359]

You know it seems that Rise of Nations and Knights of Honor are somewhat similar.
1. They both have quite large demo versions with basically the same stuff available.
2. In both demos you can't save, which sucks obviously.
3. In both there are exotic goods/special goods or whatever you want to call them (like silver and mountains and whatnot).

Yea I know there are more differences than similarities but still go try the Rise of Nations demo if you're into KoH and if you like it you won't have to wait until May 10th because it's already out and been out.


EDIT: Also, has anyone downloaded the patch? I'm assuming it's for the demo because the game hasen't come out yet but it has in other countries...


Also, is there a numbered relationship between kingdoms? When looking at the patch for it there was something about that but I never knew there was a numbered relationship.

 

[Lord Draegon]

Hasnt it come out in Europe?

 

[rbis4rbb]

Hasnt it come out in Europe?

Yeah I think so.

 

[WickedSmurf]

It was released here 2004-10-31.

 

[Dabomb18359]

@WickedSmurf do you have the game since you mention it is out "here." I'm assuming you live in Europe so have you played the entire game or do you have it?

And @ anyone, is there a numbered relationship between kingdoms as I have reasons mentioned in my last post?

 

[WickedSmurf]

Yeah I obtained it about a week ago, and I live in Sweden (which in fact is in Europe). I am currently playing the full version of the game and I have now united Scandinavia (and parts of present day Germany) under the blue and yellow flag.

 

[Zarn]

Yeah I obtained it about a week ago, and I live in Sweden (which in fact is in Europe). I am currently playing the full version of the game and I have now united Scandinavia (and parts of present day Germany) under the blue and yellow flag.

Look out everyone, it's a Swedish Bonaparte!

Do you know if it is any easier to start with a larger kingdom or a smaller kingdom? Kingdoms that start out large seem to have alot more people declaring war on them early.

 

[WickedSmurf]

So far I've only played as Sweden, starting with 3 regions. I'm playing on "normal" difficulty and the start is calm. Other kingdoms have just started noticing me now when I'm a major power in Europe. Demands start coming, kingdoms want alliances, want me to attack others et cetera.

I can recommend starting small. It gives you time to do a decent build up. No-one puts any pressure what so ever on you.

 

[Dabomb18359]

Also if someone like your ally demands you to attack someone and you have a 5 kingdom power (for example) is there a way to get by without your kingdom power dropping? If you say yes it drops because you're hurting a relationship with another country, but if you say no you make your ally who asked you become mad.

Also @WickedSmurf, in singleplayer is all that you can do either a Europe one, a quick game thing (battle), or a tutorial? Is there no campaign? or is that the Europe.

 

[WickedSmurf]

Also if someone like your ally demands you to attack someone and you have a 5 kingdom power (for example) is there a way to get by without your kingdom power dropping?

The times I've failed an ally, my power has dropped.

If you say yes it drops because you're hurting a relationship with another country, but if you say no you make your ally who asked you become mad.

Diplomacy is tricky indeed.

Also @WickedSmurf, in singleplayer is all that you can do either a Europe one, a quick game thing (battle), or a tutorial? Is there no campaign? or is that the Europe.

There is a tutorial (haven't done it though). No campaign, just "Play on Europe".

 

[Dabomb18359]

I know when you fail an ally it drops but even if you go along with them it drops too because you breaking a relationship or starting a bad one with another country.

 

[WickedSmurf]

So do you guys lead the battles or do you let the marshals handle them?

 

[Zarn]

So do you guys lead the battles or do you let the marshals handle them?

Marshals, but when I get the game, I may start leading some.

 

[rbis4rbb]

If it's about even forces, i let the marshals handleit. But If I outnumber them 3:1 I go for it

1000 post

 

[Lord Draegon]

I always lead them when i can. Its especially fun when i have 2 armies filled with all Highlanders. I kill you all mwahhaahahaaahhaahaha seriosly, its really hard to stop. Well there are historical battles aso those are knid of scenarios.

 

[Dabomb18359]

Most of the time I let the marshals take care of it. Once I start losing I normally retreat. It's of no use staying if it says balanced or losing slightly or worse, because I'm in it to win and I don't want to take a chance of losing a precious marshal just because there's a 50/50 chance. Also, I don't like to lead because it takes so long and you can't do anything else while you do that. Maybe if it was a simple battle but not when the enemy constantly runs away and you start out on the battlefield so far away from each other.

Also, what are you people's favorite marshal skills.
Hands down, the best one is definitely the one that lets you fortify. It's like automatically 125% better defense when you use it and sometimes the computers are stupid so you fortify and they stand there while you shoot arrows at them and slowly lower their HP. If they are smart they will come attack you but then you have souped-up defense. But you only want to do this mainly with peasants because, believe it or not, they have the most HP out of units available in the demo. The highlanders and other more expensive warriors are stronger but have less HP, so when your marshal is fortified and so is an enemy one, watch the HP go down at the same rate for both of you, but when the enemy has peasants his HP is like 360 as opposed to like 240 or something.

So share some of your favorite marshal skills.

 

[Lord Draegon]

Considering that one higlander can kill many peasants and it takes many peasants to kill one highlander, yeah they win. You dont even have to hav a full army to defeat peasants.

 

[WickedSmurf]

I never lead the fights myself, always let the marshals handle them.

As for the skills, it depends on whether I am planning on using the marshal for something special or not. Usually I give him Learning, Strategist, Dread and Tactics.

 

[Dabomb18359]

Man I just played a game (continued from yesterday) but it made me retire in the game. I was just about to conquer my 7th province, so that's probably another way it ends. I think that's how it did end because it was the only battle I knew of and when the retiring screen popped up I heard, "I am more skilled now" or one of those things they say when you when a battle. Here were my stats at the end:

Overall Power: 6/29
Largest Kingdom: 11/29
Happiest Population: 2/29
Best Merchant: 8/29
Strongest military: 7/29
Wealthiest Kingdom: 4/29
Most respected kingdom: 19/29
Most hated kingdom: 27/29

I was Scotland and it was really a cool game this time. I was allies with England and we had a royal wedding, and when England's king died I said No to "Do you want to take their kingdom" and then we became united. I took over Ireland and then Wales, which didn't bother England even though it was their vassal. Then we took over the little country above Portugal in the NW part of the little island with Spain but England got it and I got one of Castilia's provinces directly west of that. I was then attacking Bolivia or something that started with a "B" but when I got it it ended ;-(

Well post some or your scores.

 

[WickedSmurf]

This is from a game I retired from about two days ago due to heavy wars. Playing as Sweden, I conquered my way down on the continent in to present day France and Germany. Broke an alliance, had my KP drop to -5, which made many kingdoms declare war on me. Wasn't fun just warring so I retired and started a new one. Well, here's the score from the game I didn't finish.