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[$ailor]

I can not get Beta 3 to load. I keep getting a windows message that it will shut down.

I installed the 2.08 patch. I uploaded and installed Beta 3. Crash....I deleted the cache file and deleted the contents in the custom assets folder. I rebooted and crash. I opened Warlords vanilla and that works fine. I then went to advanced and tried to load TR and CRASH.

What am I doing wrong? How can I get this thing to load? I never had a problem with Beta2 loading.

PLEASE HELP

 

[Anaztazioch]

Well i didnt do anything and it runs well here.

1. Do you use no-cd or no-dvd (with ever you like) crack ? Even if you have bought warlords, and you use old version of no-cd it is unable to run beta3.
Try and launch beta2 on 2.08, if it dont crash, this means your patch installation has failed or you use old crack/exe

2. Clearing cashe never worked for me...

3. If you bought Warlords from internet (downloaded) than you are f*. You cant use official patches, you must download patch from "shop" you bought(downloaded) game from. Problem is, that such shops, rerelly gives exact release dates and uses their own game/patch version (protection from piracy i think). I had such problem with Temple of Elemental Evil, patch 2.0 and 3.0 would not install (i didnt have temple.dll in game folder O_o), but game was running ok with no patch.

4. Send a save game


But from what you describe i had exacly same "problems" with running beta2 on 2.08 and beta3 on 2.08 with 2.00 exe. (i updated warlords before beta3 release, so to play beta2 i had to simply change exe to 2.00, worked, but no 2.08 features/fixes worked eg. Stalin with Cathrines music)

 

[$ailor]

@Anaztazioch

I bought the Warlords from a store and have the CD and run the game from it. Beta1 and Beta2 worked fine except for the bugs we all have been talking about.

Today I uploaded the Beta3 and when I installed it said I needed 2.08. I then started the vanilla game and did the 2.08 install. After it installed I closed the game. I then ran the beta3 install. I tried to start the game from the start menu and it would not load and got the windows message. I cleaned the cache. I rebooted and tried it again and same thing. Then started the Vanilla and it loaded and tried to start the TR Mod from "advanced" and it crashed and I got the Windows message.

I really do not understand what you are trying to say or get me to do as I am not that technical with computers. I click on a program and it runs if it doesn't run I figure it is broken and needs to be fixed however I do not have the knowlege to fix any programming.

Yikes

 

[Anaztazioch]

then started the vanilla game and did the 2.08 install

You have game running and than ur installing ?!? If yes than some files used by game cannot be changed by patch, becouse they are in use. But installer would inform you about that...

But come to think of it i might know what seems to be the problem. Have you uninstalled Warlords Total Realism 2.0 beta2 before installing Warlords Total Realism 2.0 beta3 ?

I cant actually say what to do as i dont see this. But uninstalling all components in this order : mods, patches, Warlords, Civ IV should "eraze" that problem (after uninstall check if cashe and custom assets folers have "dissapeared", delate them if they exest). Now all you have to do is to install Civ IV (dont bother with 1.61 patch, maybe even better without it), install Warlords, patch Warlords 2.08 (do not use hotfix that has been shown up latelly, fixing Hotseat. It might change some SDK or Python therefore be incompatibile with beta3), and finally install Warlords Total Realism 2.0 beta3.

If that wont help, ckeck if you have successfully downloaded (upload is sending, english exercise ) Warlords Total Realism 2.0 beta3. Normally cutting/breaking download makes file unreadable and Windows instantly informs you about it (CRC error).

If that also doesnt help it might be fact that file in sourceforge.net got somehow damaged, but that almost impossible. One becouse sourceforge would loose prestige, two becouse even so CRC error would appear.

Anyway try launching game in all possible ways. From main TR shortcut, Worldmap shortcut, via Warlords advanced, saves (but since you didnt play...), maps.
If one of them crashes i try another one.

And say when does it crash. Instant or when "XML uncashed" ?

Last thing possible is your PC.
Or its Fall From Heaven's unclean virus battle for players

 

[Houman]

@$ailor

- restart your computer
- Clear your cache only once and now
- Run Warlords Vanilla
- Run the Mod through Advanced menu
- if crashes - Run the Mod though direct shortcut from Desktop
- If crashes - double click on the Beta3-WorldrealismMap

Regards
Houman

 

[Propunk]

@Houman:
I've read this thread and now I understand why my humble requests to add Brazil haven't been answered. OK, it's boring to have a number of civs that don't attract us much. But Brazil is the third largest democracy in the world, has a role of leadership among the emergent countries and has a vast and rich culture. I think it's elegible, don't you think? Besides, tons of people here play civ4 and would love to see their country as an option of game play.
By the way, the off topic discussions in this thread are very interesting. Let's keep'em up!

 

[Houman]

@Houman:
I've read this thread and now I understand why my humble requests to add Brazil haven't been answered. OK, it's boring to have a number of civs that don't attract us much. But Brazil is the third largest democracy in the world, has a role of leadership among the emergent countries and has a vast and rich culture. I think it's elegible, don't you think? Besides, tons of people here play civ4 and would love to see their country as an option of game play.
By the way, the off topic discussions in this thread are very interesting. Let's keep'em up!

This is exactly the problem. If we had to add everyones civ to the game.
There is simple no room anymore on the world map. Look where I had to put the Celts? In Ireland..

I think A civ should have existed at least 1000 years before we would consider to it. if you ask me, we should have removed USA in this mod. but its only there for th game balance. Otherwise we would have 2 civs in a whole contitent. Maybe one day we would replace USA by Iriquos.

Meanwhile play the Incans. They are awesome and my favorite after Persians.

 

[Spartan117]

This is exactly the problem. If we had to add everyones civ to the game.
There is simple no room anymore on the world map. Look where I had to put the Celts? In Ireland..

I think A civ should have existed at least 1000 years before we would consider to it. if you ask me, we should have removed USA in this mod. but its only there for th game balance. Otherwise we would have 2 civs in a whole contitent. Maybe one day we would replace USA by Iriquos.

Meanwhile play the Incans. They are awesome and my favorite after Persians.

With that line of thinking many more civs should be removed. Zulu, Aztec, Inca, Mali, Celts, Carthage, Vikings not only the US.

I figured the original makers of the game, decided on how much impact the particular civ had in the world (which the US has had a lot, the audience in which they are selling to (which civs are appealing to the audience- US is appealing because of the amount of US gamers). So I think it was only logical to originally add them. But placing the restricition of 1000 years, many civs would have to be removed.

 

[Houman]

With that line of thinking many more civs should be removed. Zulu, Aztec, Inca, Mali, Celts, Carthage, Vikings not only the US.

I figured the original makers of the game, decided on how much impact the particular civ had in the world (which the US has had a lot, the audience in which they are selling to (which civs are appealing to the audience- US is appealing because of the amount of US gamers). So I think it was only logical to originally add them. But placing the restricition of 1000 years, many civs would have to be removed.

Aztecs, Incans are ancient civilizations. The Europeans are only guessing about the beginning of thos civs. And often the mistake is made that once this empires became huge, they were counted. Aztecs and Incans weren't made in 1 day. Celts are belong to the most ancient civs in Europe. Carthge were in Roman times, is that not 1000 years? Vikings existed around the Roman times, they were just not united and powerful.

I agree with Zulus though. But again if you do a research on Zulus, the ZUlus or South African in particulaty do not identify themselves only with Zulus but also with another 2 big tribes in South Africa that were united under Zulus and became one nation.

However from all this Civs USA is definitely the youngest. But the impact may be also a good reason for having USA in the game. We will see about that.

 

[Spartan117]

Aztecs, Incans are ancient civilizations. The Europeans are only guessing about the beginning of thos civs. And often the mistake is made that once this empires became huge, they were counted. Aztecs and Incans weren't made in 1 day. Celts are belong to the most ancient civs in Europe. Carthge were in Roman times, is that not 1000 years? Vikings existed around the Roman times, they were just not united and powerful.

I agree with Zulus though. But again if you do a research on Zulus, the ZUlus or South African in particulaty do not identify themselves only with Zulus but also with another 2 big tribes in South Africa that were united under Zulus and became one nation.

However from all this Civs USA is definitely the youngest. But the impact may be also a good reason for having USA in the game. We will see about that.

Carthage I do not think existed for 1000 years however they did exist once over 2000 years ago in the Roman Age.

The Aztec empire lasted for some 300-400 years. They were originally the mexica tribe but were not a nation before the 300-400 years time range. The Celts did not have a nation that lasted 1000 years, that is not the same as having celtic people who lived for thousands of years.

Jsut because the civs are ancient or existed a long time ago does not necessarily mean they lasted for 1000 years.

THe US has had a larger global impact then many civs included whether it be from the exploitation of Laitin AMerica or their presence and involvement in the largest wars known.

I just think removing any civ that is already in the game would be a mistake whether its the US or Aztec, or any other civ.

 

[Houman]

Sorry this is a misunderstanding. Don;t forget English is my third language.

What i meant was NOT that a civ lasted for 1000 years. What I meant was that the roots of a civ or let say its birth is at least around 1000 AD.

But again don't worry I am not waiting with a sledgehammer in the corner waiting for the Americans.
I thought Teturkan Mod (civ3) was quite relastic not having the Americans in the game but rather North Indians.

Carthage I do not think existed for 1000 years however they did exist once over 2000 years ago in the Roman Age.

The Aztec empire lasted for some 300-400 years. They were originally the mexica tribe but were not a nation before the 300-400 years time range. The Celts did not have a nation that lasted 1000 years, that is not the same as having celtic people who lived for thousands of years.

Jsut because the civs are ancient or existed a long time ago does not necessarily mean they lasted for 1000 years.

THe US has had a larger global impact then many civs included whether it be from the exploitation of Laitin AMerica or their presence and involvement in the largest wars known.

I just think removing any civ that is already in the game would be a mistake whether its the US or Aztec, or any other civ.

 

[Spartan117]

Alright fair enough. I never played Civ 3 though. Although I disagree with it because this isnt a mod/scenario for 1000 C.E. or civs from before that era. Mayeb if you wanted to include the Iroqoius possibly and on the REalism world map replace America, but eliminating the US or any civ from the game entirely I dont think is the good idea.

 

[Anaztazioch]

Yes Iroquis instead for America only on World Map scenario.

 

[$ailor]

@$ailor

- restart your computer
- Clear your cache only once and now
- Run Warlords Vanilla
- Run the Mod through Advanced menu
- if crashes - Run the Mod though direct shortcut from Desktop
- If crashes - double click on the Beta3-WorldrealismMap

Regards
Houman

I did all of the above and I still could not load Beta3. So what I did was to uninstall Beta3 reboot, cleare cache and re-install Beta3. The game now loads fine.

I guess I had a bad install the first time around when I had to upload the 2.08 in the middle of the install.

Thanks

 

[Houman]

I guess I had a bad install the first time around when I had to upload the 2.08 in the middle of the install.

Oh yes, that would be it.

have fun,
Houman

 

[Anaztazioch]

uhh come again ?
Were you installing mod to a non compatibile version and while install you were patching it ?

 

[$ailor]

uhh come again ?
Were you installing mod to a non compatibile version and while install you were patching it ?

I had not installed 2.08 and had been playing beta1 and beta2 and all was well. I downloaded beta3 and did the install and got message that I needed 2.08. It appeared that the install of beta3 stopped so I loaded the vanilla game and installed the 2.08. After the patch was loaded I closed the game and proceeded to install beta3. The install said it was finished and then I tried to load the TR from start menu and crash. Load it from desktop and crash. Load it from advanced in vanilla and crash. Cleared cache and still crash.

Lastnight I uninstalled Beta3 and re-installed and it loads fine. My guess is that installing Beta3 without having 2.08 does something to the files. Perhaps there should be a warning stating that to install Beta3 one must have installed 2.08. If there is a warning I missed it but I don't follow directions very well either

 

[Mexico]

I had not installed 2.08 and had been playing beta1 and beta2 and all was well. I downloaded beta3 and did the install and got message that I needed 2.08. It appeared that the install of beta3 stopped so I loaded the vanilla game and installed the 2.08. After the patch was loaded I closed the game and proceeded to install beta3. The install said it was finished and then I tried to load the TR from start menu and crash. Load it from desktop and crash. Load it from advanced in vanilla and crash. Cleared cache and still crash.

Lastnight I uninstalled Beta3 and re-installed and it loads fine. My guess is that installing Beta3 without having 2.08 does something to the files. Perhaps there should be a warning stating that to install Beta3 one must have installed 2.08. If there is a warning I missed it but I don't follow directions very well either

ehm - and what this?(selected text in quoted message): this is not a warning???

@anaztazioch, $ailor
ok, now it is working, so pls stop discussion about this - just play and report bugs

 

[Mexico]

Pre-gold is already out, info on first page

mexico

 

[Anaztazioch]

The smell of fresh new WTR. (installing)