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xmen510
Emperor
We have a Trait thread. It is called Unique Powers and Civics. Here is the link:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=313223
I just wrote Unique Powers instead of Traits.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=313223
I just wrote Unique Powers instead of Traits.
xmen510
Emperor
In regards to the Sons of Feanor discussion, we could rename it to "Oath Sworn", we could include Celebrimbor this way as well.
xmen510
Emperor
Perhaps they could have +1 or +2 to their attack and defence values. Maybe they could also have a few promotions available only to them. 1 would be +25% vs. "Secret Item" Equipped Units.
xmen510
Emperor
You mentioned the "Secret Item" that we only talk about in the "Other Forum". 
Berenthor
King
That is a nice idea. What I didn't realize about the "king" units in FFH2 is that these are just the heroes for these civs and they only have one leader. So we still have to make it ourselves that the king unit is different per leader. As for the strength bonus and limiting them, that is a nice idea (although I would really like to have Celebrimbor in as he made the rings so is also an important figure, maybe the 8th "son"?)
Berenthor
King
Thinking of those king units dying, we can also say that when you lose your king unit, your leader never dears to leave is palace anymore and therefore you cannot build a new one, that way you don't have to lose your traits. The leader switching and the ideas for when there is only one I don't really like. It is possible however in BtS. The Revolution Mod does it.
xmen510
Emperor
We could put in Celebrimbor as an "8th Son", or we could leave in the Option of 2 Leaders to choose from.
Can we make it so that with the "Great Adventurers" you can only ever get 7? and thus only the sons? I really think that would make it more unique to this Mod, but it is only an idea.
I like your idea on the Leader refusing to leave the Palace anymore if you loose the King Unit and cannot build another (and thus not loose your traits).
Can we make it so that with the "Great Adventurers" you can only ever get 7? and thus only the sons? I really think that would make it more unique to this Mod, but it is only an idea.
I like your idea on the Leader refusing to leave the Palace anymore if you loose the King Unit and cannot build another (and thus not loose your traits).
Berenthor
King
I think we can make the great adventurers into a national unit with limit 7. But that would mean that if you have a city with only those adventurers as great person type, they will keep on not spawning anything until a slot comes available again. In cities with adventurers and something else (sage for example), they should automatically go to spawn sages. If I have the time I will run a game in FFH2 with the adventurers set to national unit of 2 and see what happens. Cities with only adventurer type GP they will definetly stall and count on into the minus (happened to me before in BtS when you play with espionage off and only have the great wall which gives a great spy, the city will keep counting into the minus until you build something which provides something else than a spy).
xmen510
Emperor
Any word on how this turned out for you Berenthor? We have just about finalized this list, so it would be good to know if this will work or not, or if we have to come up with a different idea.
Also, on the topic of Leaders for Feanor.
We could still have two Leaders. Feanor and Celebrimbor, if people would prefer that. This way we don't have to force Celebrimbor into the "Sons" idea, yet still have him in the game.
Also, on the topic of Leaders for Feanor.
We could still have two Leaders. Feanor and Celebrimbor, if people would prefer that. This way we don't have to force Celebrimbor into the "Sons" idea, yet still have him in the game.
Berenthor
King
If we go with the "sons of feanor" idea (great adventurers) instead of heroes than it would be wierd to have the sons of feanor as heroes for Celebrimbor. Maybe it would be better to stick with one leader than and put him as a son. I didn't have the time to run a game this weekend. I'll try to do one this evening to see how it turns out.
xmen510
Emperor
Not a problem. Done then. The Leaders list is finalized and I will update the appropriate threads and 1st post of this one.
xmen510
Emperor
"Heirs of Fëanor" works, so does "Oath Sworn". Of course, this all depends on Berenthors game he is going to try to see if limiting them sorks or not. Otherwise we go back to the Captain/Hero Idea.
Berenthor
King
Okay just finished two games to make sure it was not just me. Putting them as national units does not help. They just keep being born. Maybe there is another way to do this because it would really be cool. I don't know one yet, maybe others have suggestions. The national unit really does not work.
xmen510
Emperor
That is too bad. Can we re-program it that say with a certain project that it only produces up to 7 of them? This way is is sort of like a Great person, but not?
