LGBT rampage

[MobBoss]

I bet two bottles of whiskey that he'd much prefer it not be a hate group.

I think you'd lose that bet.

A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation or other designated sector of society.

Wiki, so sue me

So its not a hate group.

 

[Traitorfish]

Because the KKK actually says that all non-white people are inferior.

Prove to me that they're not, as you are so fond of saying.

 

[Formaldehyde]

I think you'd lose that bet.



So its not a hate group.

I think you should take her up on it.

It is also quite revealing that you don't think a group founded by Christians that falsely equates homosexuality to pedophilia doesn't advocate and practice hatred and hostility towards a sexual orientation.

I love how these sort of threads always seem to backfire from their original intent.

 

[LucyDuke]

I think you'd lose that bet.

I think you misunderstood it.

 

[DinoDoc]

What is clearly "relevant" here is how so many people don't want to discuss the elephant in the closet. That such blatant hatred of homosexuals is condoned by many.

The FRC has never called for violence against gays and is nothing more than a run of the mill grass roots conservative organization.

Again, one obviously has nothing to do with the other, especially after I made it clear that I thought any such handgun violence violence was deplorable

It's called fake sympathy that comes with the qualifier that they totally had it coming.

 

[Formaldehyde]

The FRC has never called for violence against gays and is nothing more than a run of the mill grass roots conservative organization.It's called fake sympathy that comes with the qualifier that they totally had it coming.

I take you do understand what the word "or" means in the above definition. That it doesn't mean "and" as you apparently just falsely alleged. That the FRC is clearly guilty of two of the three criteria which defines a hate group, and they have quite likely caused violence towards homosexuals as a result of their homophobic stances.

And again, nobody has claimed they "had it coming" in this thread. Now have they?

But it is quite revealing that you and others are trying to spin then as being a "run of the mill grass roots conservative organization".

 

[Traitorfish]

The FRC has never called for violence against gays and is nothing more than a run of the mill grass roots conservative organization.

Now there's a familiar tune.

 

[DinoDoc]

I take you do understand what the word "or" means in the above definition.

The definition is meaningless if you wish to expand it to include any social conservative.

 

[Formaldehyde]

The vast majority of "social conservatives" aren't homophobic, nor do they support or even condone such despicable hate groups. At least I would certainly hope that is the case.

 

[DinoDoc]

The vast majority of "social conservatives" aren't homophobic, nor do they support or even condone such despicable hate groups. At least I would certainly hope that is the case.

I daresay that none of them actually see the FRC as a hate group and most of them are against gay marriage as well.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

ITT: "You're hateful!" "No, you are!"

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So its not a hate group.

I don't even know who "it" is we're talking about. I just thought to kick of defining what a hate group is by posting a definition. Seemed more productive than: Is! Is not! Is!

 

[WindFish]

From what FRC sees as homsexuality

Family Research Council believes that homosexual conduct is harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large, and can never be affirmed. It is by definition unnatural, and as such is associated with negative physical and psychological health effects. While the origins of same-sex attractions may be complex, there is no convincing evidence that a homosexual identity is ever something genetic or inborn. We oppose the vigorous efforts of homosexual activists to demand that homosexuality be accepted as equivalent to heterosexuality in law, in the media, and in schools. Attempts to join two men or two women in "marriage" constitute a radical redefinition and falsification of the institution, and FRC supports state and federal constitutional amendments to prevent such redefinition by courts or legislatures. Sympathy must be extended to those who struggle with unwanted same-sex attractions, and every effort should be made to assist such persons to overcome those attractions, as many already have.

http://www.frc.org/human-sexuality#homosexuality

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck does that mean its a cock?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Family Research Council believes that homosexual conduct is harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large, and can never be affirmed.

Good on you mate! Now please could you get out of the way of other people's lives? There's a good Council! Cheers!

 

[Formaldehyde]

I daresay that none of them actually see the FRC as a hate group and most of them are against gay marriage as well.

Do you have a source that corroborates all "social conservatives" think that such blatant homophobia isn't the result of an obvious hate group? And what does the latter have to do with anything? The issue here is their clearly homophobic policies and statements, not any of the others which they also espouse.

 

[Ice_Tyrant]

The title is very appropriate. This is how we should describe all horrible acts of violence. I've decided that the Virginia Tech shooting will be retroactively named the Korean Rampage. Because, you know, the shooter was Korean. I mean obviously every Korean should be held accountable for that tragedy, right?

 

[DinoDoc]

Do you have a source that corroborates all "social conservatives" think that such blatant homophobia isn't the result of an obvious hate group?

The proper way to handle this is that since you made the claim that social conservatives see the FRC as a hate group is for you to support that claim. It seems odd to me that you would make that claim as their is nothing particularly exceptional about the organization.

 

[JtheJackal]

The proper way to handle this is that since you made the claim that social conservatives see the FRC as a hate group is for you to support that claim. It seems odd to me that you would make that claim as their is nothing particularly exceptional about the organization.

I think the problem here is is that the FRC has been proven to be a hate group and the idea that a majority of people would not consider it one is very worrisome.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Indeed. I have already provided overwhelming evidence that the FRC is indeed a hate group. If many "social conservatives" support or even condone such despicable activities, much less "all", it is quite worrisome indeed.

As I clearly stated above, I would certainly hope that is not the case. But I'm certainly willing to read any possible evidence to the contrary which shows that it isn't just a tiny minority of Americans who support such blatantly hateful homophobia, which is even forbidden to express in this forum.

 

[amadeus]

80 posts in and I'm the one to say it?

Terrorism.