LGBT rampage

[Formaldehyde]

Why have two people so far picked the one aspect of the hate group definition which this particular group doesn't directly qualify, but it indirectly does so by promoting gross intolerance towards gays?

In other words, why are they conflating "and" with "or"?

Again:

A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation or other designated sector of society.

Wiki, so sue me

Emphasis mine.

 

[Old Hippy]

I'll agree the Catholic church has its history of violence, but that hasnt been the case in a long, long time.

they are still in the news here (Australia) for defending institutionalize acceptance of voilence against children... hopefully its stopped,but how are we to know that,as very recent cover ups still keep coming to light

 

[MobBoss]

I contend that visceral disgust for homosexuals is their driving motivation and I think they're a non-violent hate group. So no, I won't stop.

And I think thats a big part of the problem here.

This group isnt the KKK or WBC.

Hell, you got people on your side trying to claim that organizations like the Fellowship for Christian Athletes or the Boy Scouts are hate groups.

As i've said before, those that scream about intolerance the most are they themselves the most intolerant of other beliefs.

 

[AlpsStranger]

As i've said before, those that scream about intolerance the most are they themselves the most intolerant of other beliefs.

Believe what you want.

Stop blocking gay marriage.

 

[Quackers]

I contend that visceral disgust for homosexuals is their driving motivation and I think they're a non-violent hate group. So no, I won't stop.

I feel visceral disgust for Formalderhyde's so called "posts" but I don't hate him

 

[MobBoss]

Believe what you want. Stop blocking gay marriage.

As long as I get a vote, i'll vote the way I want. Stop trying to change the defintion of marriage.

But again, being against gay marriage doesnt make one a 'hater'. Thats simply false and another HUGE part of the problem here.

 

[AlpsStranger]

But again, being against gay interracial marriage doesnt make one a 'hater'. Thats simply false and another HUGE part of the problem here.

 

[MobBoss]

But again, being against gay interracial marriage doesnt make one a 'hater'. Thats simply false and another HUGE part of the problem here.

Totally different issue, that being racism. This isnt racism.

I've already identified the KKK as a hate group, didnt I? And if this group acted like the KKK did in reference to this issue, i'd call them a hate group as well, but they dont act that way.

Still not a hate group.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Hell, you got people on your side trying to claim that organizations like the Fellowship for Christian Athletes or the Boy Scouts are hate groups..

Actually the SPLC doesn't consider the Boy Scouts to be hate group, and they don't even mention the Fellowship of Christian Athletes:

Boy Scouts of America policy embraces anti-LGBT prejudice

You are going to have to try far harder than that to rationalize your defense of this hate group.

As i've said before, those that scream about intolerance the most are they themselves the most intolerant of other beliefs.

Speaking out against intolerance doesn't make someone intolerant, any more than speaking out against racism makes you a racist or speaking out against bigotry makes you a bigot. That is just silly. I don't know why so many conservatives believe this utter nonsense.

 

[MobBoss]

Why do people care what the SPLC says one way or another? They have no authority to decide what is a hate group and what isnt.

Speaking out against intolerance doesn't make someone intolerant, any more than speaking out against racism makes you a racist or speaking out against bigotry makes you a bigot. That is just silly. I don't know why so many conservatives believe this utter nonsense.

When its not a hate group yes, it is just more intolerance. You see, your're really quick to call people haters and bigots when they really arent. When you do that it precisely is intolerance.

 

[AlpsStranger]

This isn't "on the table" for me.

I tolerate opposition to it civilly because I must. I don't advocate violence against people who oppose gay marriage because two wrongs don't make a right. But I will never hide my feelings on this matter, nor will I legitimize the opposition as a religious "freedom" issue. It has nothing to do with religious freedom and everything to do with projecting Christian privilege for its own sake.

I'm no S. E. Cupp, so look to someone else to scrape and bow for you.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Why do people care what the SPLC says one way or another?

Because being opposed to obvious hate groups is a "good thing" instead of a "bad thing"? Do I really have to explain basic morals?

 

[AlpsStranger]

Because being opposed to obvious hate groups is a "good thing" instead of a "bad thing"? Do I really have to explain morals?

INB4: MobBoss will explain that we don't really have morals because we don't have his morals.

 

[MobBoss]

INB4: MobBoss will explain that we don't really have morals because we don't have his morals.

Nope, 'cause i'm more tolerant than you are.

Because being opposed to obvious hate groups is a "good thing" instead of a "bad thing"? Do I really have to explain basic morals?

Except, they arent really hate groups.

You wanna protest the WBC or KKK, i'm right with you. But groups that merely express their biblical beliefs in a non-violent/non-inciteful way? Not so much.

 

[WindFish]

You wanna protest the WBC or KKK, i'm right with you. But groups that merely express their biblical beliefs in a non-violent/non-inciteful way? Not so much.

As a Christian, I consider their biblical beliefs to be wrong.

 

[useless]

I guess we're the real bigots here for being intolerant of the likes of david duke and the kkk etc

(using mobby's "YOU'RE INTOLERANT OF MY INTOLERANCE!" logic)

 

[Traitorfish]

Stop trying to change the defintion of marriage.

The definition of marriage has already changed. The fact that even you can and do use the term "same-sex marriage" demonstrates this. If you really believed that marriage referred exclusively to opposite-sex marriage, you'd refuse to talk about "same-sex marriage" on the basis that its a contradiction in terms.

 

[JollyRoger]

Marriage defined - A prerequisite to divorce.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

MobBoss, I read a post of yours recently that argued it's fine if homosexuals want to call their relationship a Marriage, as long as the government doesn't recognize it. What role does the government play in the sanctity of marriage? Are they the arbiter on religious matters? Or is there a different reason you don't want the government to acknowledge their relationship as a marriage?

 

[JollyRoger]

It appears that some that accuse the gays of wanting special treatment really just want to maintain special treatment for themselves.