LGBT rampage

[Leoreth]

It doesn't matter what his motivations were. It doesn't matter what motivated the guy in Arizona last year, the guy in Aurora or the guy in Wisconsin.

When did we become a nation that must somehow justify the actions of sociopaths?

Just because someone is "crazy" or a "sociopath" doesn't mean there isn't a causal relationship between his motivations and his actions, generally.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Meanwhile, no mention of the actual hate group being less hateful towards homosexuals...

It's only a "hate group" because you want it to be.

 

[useless]

Your logic is completely whack:

"The KKK is only a hate group because you (and everyone else) wants it to be!"

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Your logic is completely whack:

"The KKK is only a hate group because you (and everyone else) wants it to be!"

Because the KKK actually says that all non-white people are inferior.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Because the KKK actually says that all non-white people are inferior.

And why does that constitute them as a hate group?

 

[AlpsStranger]

Because the KKK actually says that all non-white people are inferior.

The "pro family" organizations do more or less say gay people are inferior. Cloaking it in religious language doesn't mean anything to me.

It's a silly word game. Do you really think that random Chick-fil-A chuggers have this detached, theo/academic view of homosexuality? No, they think homosexuals are icky and want the gubbament to do something about it.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

And why does that constitute them as a hate group?

Why would it not?

 

[Leoreth]

Why would it not?

Because you didn't argue that they literally say "we hate blacks" which seems to be your only defense for anti-homosexual groups.

 

[DinoDoc]

What part of "While any act of handgun violence such as this should obviously be condemned, as it was quite quickly by numerous LGBT groups..." gave you that impression?

The fact you felt the need to mention it as if it were relevant.

 

[DinoDoc]

It's a silly word game. Do you really think that random Chick-fil-A chuggers have this detached, theo/academic view of homosexuality? No, they think homosexuals are icky and want the gubbament to do something about it.

I think they probably like the chicken sandwiches.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Why would it not?

I'm sorry, is the standard "something must do something to be a hate group" or "everything is a hate group until they prove otherwise?"

 

[holy king]

I think they probably like the chicken sandwiches.

i refuse to believe this.

 

[DinoDoc]

i refuse to believe this.

Do you believe they load it up with an anti-homo vaccine then?

 

[Core Imposter]

What is all the fuss about?

 

[AlpsStranger]

What is all the fuss about?

Some loon shot a security guard at an anti-gay group's headquarters.

 

[AlpsStranger]

i refuse to believe this.

Politics aside (though I am boycotting them for life now) I was once actually quite fond of their sandwiches.

 

[El_Machinae]

Why can't it both be a wacko and politically motivated?

Exactly this. Nine times of out ten, it's this.

 

[Formaldehyde]

It's only a "hate group" because you want it to be.

You mean it's not a hate group because for some reason you don't want it to be one?

The fact you felt the need to mention it as if it were relevant.

Again, one obviously has nothing to do with the other, especially after I made it clear that I thought any such handgun violence violence was deplorable, as do a number of LGBT groups.

What is clearly "relevant" here is how so many people don't want to discuss the elephant in the closet. That such blatant hatred of homosexuals is condoned by many.

 

[LucyDuke]

It's only a "hate group" because you want it to be.

I bet two bottles of whiskey that he'd much prefer it not be a hate group.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation or other designated sector of society.

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