(LOCKED) Going for Gold: Buildings
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Chandler
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Why not? The tooltip only says that you can't have an Hydro Plant AND a Wind Plant in the same city. But you can still decide to build a Wind Plant instead of a Hydro Plant in river cities.
Edit: oops! my bad. I didn't see that ^^u
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At the bottom it says "City must not be built next to a River"
HungryForFood
Prince
Why not let Hydro Plant affect more tiles? I've been modding my Wind and Hydro Plants to affect all tiles, and it seems to be fine.
I know it says that, but unless it was changed recently, you can still build wind plants. Wind plants will also affect river tiles.
SpankmyMetroid
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You can’t. It won’t show as a build option.
pineappledan
Deity
Can we please, for the love of God, reduce Amphitheaters to 4/4 on their Tourism theming bonuses?
Right now they are 4/6
on National/global tourism output. That's extremely high for a Classical era 2
GWs bonus building. For comparison, The Assyrian Royal Library gives the same 6 output with 3GWs, and the themeing requirements are harder to satisfy.
Right now they are 4/6
on National/global tourism output. That's extremely high for a Classical era 2GWs bonus building. For comparison, The Assyrian Royal Library gives the same 6 output with 3GWs, and the themeing requirements are harder to satisfy.
but then you need writers to fill it for you and not just writers you need foreign writers.
pineappledan
Deity
Amphitheaters give 4 if you theme your own GWs and 6 if you theme 2 GWs from other civs. It is easier to simply trade for foreign GWs or conquer for them, so it's trivial to get the 6 bonus. It's incredibly efficient for output, easy to do, and it puts a lot of "better" buildings out of work.
I had tried to argue for simply adding extra slots to Heroic Epic and National monument instead, but people wanted a theoretically infinite number of slots, scaling with cities
if you theme your own GWs and 6 if you theme 2 GWs from other civs. It is easier to simply trade for foreign GWs or conquer for them, so it's trivial to get the 6 bonus. It's incredibly efficient for output, easy to do, and it puts a lot of "better" buildings out of work.The general consensus was yes, because if they dont have one then the only theming for writing is from world wonders and Oxford.
I had tried to argue for simply adding extra slots to Heroic Epic and National monument instead, but people wanted a theoretically infinite number of slots, scaling with cities
Your idea is good. People wanting something doesn't mean it isn't incredibly stupid. You don't have infinite writer's guilds, 1 per city + national wonders should be more than enough.
We should have a tuning thread devoted just to themeing bonuses. I don't pay that much attention to them, but every time it comes up people point out big problems.
pineappledan
Deity
Probably need to unlock this thread now that needs reductions on buildings work totally differently now.
For starters, needs reduction was just dropped from Customs Houses. So as of posting, Customs houses provide 2
, +2
to 
International TRs, have the boost on TR completion, and have a merchant slot.
You're going to want 1 of these in a high-value city for most of your trade routes to go in/out from. More importantly, it's the prerequisite for your EIC, but otherwise this building goes from kinda niche to 'Arsenal' levels of niche if it doesn't affect happiness, especially if you aren't going for a CV. It's not really worth the 350
to build it.
For starters, needs reduction was just dropped from Customs Houses. So as of posting, Customs houses provide 2
, +2 to International TRs, have the boost on TR completion, and have a merchant slot.You're going to want 1 of these in a high-value city for most of your trade routes to go in/out from. More importantly, it's the prerequisite for your EIC, but otherwise this building goes from kinda niche to 'Arsenal' levels of niche if it doesn't affect happiness, especially if you aren't going for a CV. It's not really worth the 350
to build it.I think it also gets buffed by the bank.You're going to want 1 of these in a high-value city for most of your trade routes to go in/out from. More importantly, it's the prerequisite for your EIC, but otherwise this building goes from kinda niche to 'Arsenal' levels of niche if it doesn't affect happiness, especially if you aren't going for a CV. It's not really worth the 350
more like lock this thread and open a new one. The buildings operate entirely different now.Probably need to unlock this thread now that needs reductions on buildings work totally differently now.
For starters, needs reduction was just dropped from Customs Houses. So as of posting, Customs houses provide 2
You're going to want 1 of these in a high-value city for most of your trade routes to go in/out from. More importantly, it's the prerequisite for your EIC, but otherwise this building goes from kinda niche to 'Arsenal' levels of niche if it doesn't affect happiness, especially if you aren't going for a CV. It's not really worth the 350
I agree with Stalkie. I also think it's perfectly fine for some buildings to be niche - if every building is required in every city, it gets a bit cluttered.
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pineappledan
Deity
I propose a quick fix: if you don’t want the number of poverty reduction buildings to change, move the poverty reduction from bank to custom house.
Bank never had poverty reduction before, and it’s the same tech level as grocer, which also has a poverty reduction for a total of -2
in early renaissance.
That spaces things out better and keeps customs houses relevant.
Bank never had poverty reduction before, and it’s the same tech level as grocer, which also has a poverty reduction for a total of -2
in early renaissance.That spaces things out better and keeps customs houses relevant.
I propose a quick fix: if you don’t want the number of poverty reduction buildings to change, move the poverty reduction from bank to custom house.
Bank never had poverty reduction before, and it’s the same tech level as grocer, which also has a poverty reduction for a total of -2
That spaces things out better and keeps customs houses relevant.
Banks had poverty reduction, though.
Edit: I'd be fine with switching it to Custom House, but I just wanted to set that on the record.
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pineappledan
Deity
Did they? Well, all the same, banks will remain a powerful building even if the -1 is taken out. It would space the poverty reductions out better by tech level, further from grocer. There’s a long stretch between aqueduct and bank/grocer with no relief on poverty at the moment
is taken out. It would space the poverty reductions out better by tech level, further from grocer. There’s a long stretch between aqueduct and bank/grocer with no relief on poverty at the moment
Did they? Well, all the same, banks will remain a powerful building even if the -1
Fair enough.
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