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From http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_5346946

Livermore wins A-bomb
Los Alamos loses out; choice draws criticism from nuclear weapons opponents.
By Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press
Article Launched: 03/02/2007 09:46:46 PM PST

SAN FRANCISCO - The Bush administration selected Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's design Friday for a new generation of atomic warheads, advancing a plan to update the nation's arsenal amid criticism from nuclear weapons opponents.
The Lawrence Livermore design beat one submitted by Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico because it can be built with more certainty in the absence of underground testing, the National Nuclear Security Administration said.

"Both teams developed brilliant designs," said Thomas P. D'Agostino, the acting administrator of the NNSA.

Leaps in computer modeling and experimental capabilities in probing the internal structure of plutonium allowed scientists to draw up an essentially new weapon without testing, said Bruce Goodwin, associate director of defense and nuclear technologies at Lawrence Livermore.

As the program progresses over the next six years, Lawrence Livermore will work closely with production plants, assuming Congress will pay for it and that shuttered manufacturing facilities are brought back to life.

If funded by Congress, the new warhead developed with engineering assistance from Sandia National Laboratories would be used on the Trident submarine-launched ballistic missile system.
Many of the warheads in the nation's stockpile were designed and built 40 years ago, and their plutonium and other components are deteriorating in ways researchers do not fully understand.

The government spends billions of dollars each year tending to its aging stockpile.

Critics fear the project could send the wrong signal to the world at a time when the United States and its allies are trying to curb the spread of nuclear technology.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she was "100 percent opposed" to the new program, even though the choice of Lawrence Livermore brings great prestige, and possibly jobs, to her home state.

"What worries me is that the minute you begin to put more sophisticated warheads on the existing fleet, you are essentially creating a new nuclear weapon. And it's just a matter of time before other nations do the same thing," Feinstein said.

The announcement comes at a time when the administration is engaged in delicate disarmament negotiations with North Korea, which reportedly possesses several nuclear weapons, and Iran, which the administration fears wants them.

Iran recently called on the United States to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

Opponents of the program also question whether a next-generation bomb can improve reliability and safety if it cannot be tested. Congress has financed the research on the condition that the redesigned weapon reduce the need for underground testing, which can leave residual radiation.

"Today is a sad day for global security," said Marylia Kelley, executive director of Tri-Valley CAREs, a Livermore-area watchdog group. "Our government is sending a signal that will increase international proliferation pressures and increase the nuclear danger."

The administration's Nuclear Weapons Council found several proposed features of the Los Alamos design "highly innovative" and said they could be integrated into the future warhead design.

Glenn Mara, principal associate director for weapons programs at Los Alamos, offered no examples but said Los Alamos will review the design and has expertise in the technology to trigger detonation.

Revamping the nation's warheads will nurture a new generation of nuclear scientists and engineers, Mara said.

If approved by Congress, the new weapon would be much larger than Cold War-era ones, though it would pack the same explosive power with fewer warheads. The shift in priorities to a heavier warhead eliminates the need for beryllium, a toxic material prized for its light weight, Goodwin said.

Discuss...

Yeah, I know that opening a new thread with a piece of news and letting other people discuss without giving any thought is not good forum practice, but I don't really know what to think about this. On one hand, I know the US is not going to use them indiscriminately, and they already have nuclear heads, so Who cares? on the other, it is a bit cynical to say Iran not to build nuclear weapons and then the US go ahead and build new ones.
 
The H-bomb is so obsolete. The F-bomb is where its at.
 
Sorry to hear that.

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I was hoping it would be Los Alamos.

Los Alamos? Los "Let's Give Our Secrets to the Chinese" Alamos?

Anyways, this whole thing is repugnant. Get out your 'ban the bomb' pins everyone!
 
I honestly don't understand why a new bomb is needed. I'd be more open to this if I didn't think it was just pork :-/
 
Los Alamos? Los "Let's Give Our Secrets to the Chinese" Alamos?

Anyways, this whole thing is repugnant. Get out your 'ban the bomb' pins everyone!

Done!

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on the other, it is a bit cynical to say Iran not to build nuclear weapons and then the US go ahead and build new ones.
Where's the problem?

Is it cynical to advocate liberty while taking a murderer's liberties away by enclosing him or her in a steel cage? Of course not. The innocent must be protected from the guilty.


The U.S. is stable, open, and (relatively) peaceful. Iran is being run by a bunch of radical idiots who are even crazier than I am. They should not have bombs, and no, I do not see a contradiction here.
 
Where's the problem?

Is it cynical to advocate liberty while taking a murderer's liberties away by enclosing him or her in a steel cage? Of course not. The innocent must be protected from the guilty.


The U.S. is stable, open, and (relatively) peaceful. Iran is being run by a bunch of radical idiots who are even crazier than I am. They should not have bombs, and no, I do not see a contradiction here.

I wouldn't agree. Iran has killed far fewer innocent people since the end of World War Two (or hell, even the 1991 Gulf War) than America has.
 
I wouldn't agree. Iran has killed far fewer innocent people since the end of World War Two (or hell, even the 1991 Gulf War) than America has.

Germany has killed far more innocent people than will probably be killed by almost any other nation in at least the next 50 years, save for the Chinese and Stalinists.

Is that a measure of any of theese nations by any means to do this day? No.
 
Los Alamos? Los "Let's Give Our Secrets to the Chinese" Alamos?

Anyways, this whole thing is repugnant. Get out your 'ban the bomb' pins everyone!
Considering your political affiliations, I'm surprised that you wouldn't want them to keep this at Los Alamos, precisely for that reason.
 
While I like having the biggest and best bombs as the next guy, why do we need to invest in more nuclear weapons? The cold war is over and our conventional forces can handle any external threat. And there is no way the American people are going to accept the use of nuclear weapons for any reason in the world we live in.
 
While I like having the biggest and best bombs as the next guy, why do we need to invest in more nuclear weapons?

I think you answered your own question.

The article said that old ones are falling apart and scientists don't really understand why or how.

If you're going to be a nuclear power, you better be a good one.
 
I think you answered your own question.

The article said that old ones are falling apart and scientists don't really understand why or how.

If you're going to be a nuclear power, you better be a good one.

Then we should safely get rid of the old ones. I don't like a useless weapons stockpile costing billions a year, I don't like nuclear weapons just laying around either.

I have to say that large amounts of nuclear weapons are obsolete in todays world.
 
Then we should safely get rid of the old ones. I don't like a useless weapons stockpile costing billions a year, I don't like nuclear weapons just laying around either.

I have to say that large amounts of nuclear weapons are obsolete in todays world.

I'd love to put them in reactors and make lights turn on.

Nuclear Weapons Research:
When you absolutely, positively have to be able to destroy Planet Earth that one extra time over.

When you want to be positive the things work?

Research into fusion weapons is probably a very good step into fusion power, too. Just something to throw out there.

:)
 
We'd better not upgrade any of our military equipment then, because that will just lead to other people upgrading theirs!
 
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