LuckNES2: The Fatal Balance
- Thread starter Luckymoose
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Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
OOC: I'm fine with the German changes on the condition that that borderline EC, and the strip of territory south of the Netherlands remains French, since technically that area is part of OTL Belgium, and probably has a significant French speaking population.
From: France
To: Russia, Germany
We agree with all proposed territorial changes with respect to Germany, Italy, and Russia. However, we are strictly opposed to the Spanish acquisition of Catalonia and the Pyrenees. The French Empire is sworn to protect the rights of French and Catalan citizens, and while we are willing to allow foreign peoples to join their countries of origin, we have a duty to protect French and Catalan territory occupied by French and Catalan peoples. Surely you can understand our position on this matter.
Since all of your personal gains are satisfied, France wishes to conclude a peace with Germany, Italy and Russia on the basis of the current proposal, excluding all references to Spain and Catalonia.
From: France
To: Russia, Germany
We agree with all proposed territorial changes with respect to Germany, Italy, and Russia. However, we are strictly opposed to the Spanish acquisition of Catalonia and the Pyrenees. The French Empire is sworn to protect the rights of French and Catalan citizens, and while we are willing to allow foreign peoples to join their countries of origin, we have a duty to protect French and Catalan territory occupied by French and Catalan peoples. Surely you can understand our position on this matter.
Since all of your personal gains are satisfied, France wishes to conclude a peace with Germany, Italy and Russia on the basis of the current proposal, excluding all references to Spain and Catalonia.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
This is a far more realistic gains as they were originally Spanish lands.
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
From The Ottoman Empire
To the Empires of All Russia's
No, the fertile crest (where iraq is where im talking about) will not be ceceded. Neither are we willing to cecede the islands of Greece (greece itself is fine with the EC to) And we are also willing to give up more of our european holdings (but enough land so i am able to have some breathing room with my capital)
To the Empires of All Russia's
No, the fertile crest (where iraq is where im talking about) will not be ceceded. Neither are we willing to cecede the islands of Greece (greece itself is fine with the EC to) And we are also willing to give up more of our european holdings (but enough land so i am able to have some breathing room with my capital)
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
OCC: 'Significant' is not the same as majority, those are lands inhabited by flemish speakers. Besides 'french speaking' and 'part of the France' are different things...or are you proposing that the north american french speaker submit to your authority?
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
ok and why is that port in persia back in british control on the map?? it was ceceded after the war over india...
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
That seems to be an OTL assertion; I'd say that several decades of French control have certainly altered the ethno/linguistic makeup.
I was, of course, referring to current French continental posessions only.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
OCC: 'decades' isn't enough to really alter the makeup, since the long period of Dutch rule OTL didn't make much change, this wasn't a hostile territory to France that might require 'social engineering'.
The Major
Warlord
From: Spain
To: France
Do you agree to the changes proposed by esteemed the cartographer Sir Luck of Moosonee?
We also would hope that France does not claim to be the sole protector of the Catalan peoples, nor the sole protector of Catalan lands. Communitites exist all along the mediterranean coast, not solely in French lands.
We also would ask, how did you feel about the German peoples, and the German lands when you invaded?
To: France
Do you agree to the changes proposed by esteemed the cartographer Sir Luck of Moosonee?
We also would hope that France does not claim to be the sole protector of the Catalan peoples, nor the sole protector of Catalan lands. Communitites exist all along the mediterranean coast, not solely in French lands.
We also would ask, how did you feel about the German peoples, and the German lands when you invaded?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Kal, German response?
From: France
To: Spain
If Spain is so confident that the Catalan people will accept their rule, why not hold a referendum in the contested lands?
From: France
To: Spain
If Spain is so confident that the Catalan people will accept their rule, why not hold a referendum in the contested lands?
The Major
Warlord
From: Spain
To: France
Had you won the war would you have asked Germans, and Spaniards if they wished to live under France? You have fought this war and lost, some reprocussions must occur. We believe a non-binding polling of the public on the matter is more in order than a referendum.
Depending on the results...
To: France
Had you won the war would you have asked Germans, and Spaniards if they wished to live under France? You have fought this war and lost, some reprocussions must occur. We believe a non-binding polling of the public on the matter is more in order than a referendum.
Depending on the results...
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Orders are due in like 1 hour and 30 minutes. I only have like 3 order sets get to it people.
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
crap, lucky can you extend the dead line so we can get this peace deal through?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
I hate extending the deadline every week because you guys can't seem to sort things out in the days prior. You should learn to do that. I guess I will extend it by 3 hours. So 4 hours and 10 minutes remain.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
OCC: just agree to a cease-fire, and bicker later.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Lost? We find it ironic that the Spaniards can expect to ride into victory on the coattails of a greater coalition, when it is painfully clear that Spain has little chance of defeating France on its own.
Despite the ambitions of Napoleon, the First Consul only wishes to maintain peace and security for the French people, and by extension the peoples of Catalonia.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
ooc: Spain jumping into the war was to get back what you took from them originally with some extra.
The Major
Warlord
From: Spain
To: France
We are taking back what was stolen from us. Do not preach to us. Perhaps if you had not embarked on the mad campaign against the "coalition" you would not find yourself in this position.
I'll send orders once i get a few things figured out...
To: France
We are taking back what was stolen from us. Do not preach to us. Perhaps if you had not embarked on the mad campaign against the "coalition" you would not find yourself in this position.
I'll send orders once i get a few things figured out...
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
30 minutes left for all you people out there. Still only 4 order sets in.
