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Leha
ooseepoosee
Fine by me to wait.
Not quite sure what to do here.....so I rushed the temple in Chengdu.
Going to try and organize a strike force for Sumeria....
But first I notice we have no embassies, and I ask myself how are we going to steal technology with no embassies....
And then I wonder why we are building the Heroic Epic when Bergen could use a bank, or a temple, or even a new latrine, so I swap to a bank, then pull every galley I can into port for upgrade...
Anyway the net result is I spend down the treasury rushing stuff and setting up embassies and upgradin galleys and like that, so I have to turn down the research budget, but the spending isn't helping our economy anyway because there isn't anyone out there to buy what we learn anyway.
In 1345 sell Metallurgy to the Koreans for 38g+3gpt.
And Sumer builds Bach's in Kish with the SGL they got for learning ToG.
In 1355 the Hittites and Sumer get into war over the northern half of the little island south of worker Island
In 1365 we lose Chengdu (why did we ever take that town in the first place?)
In 1375 Sumer builds Smith's.
In 1375 upgrade some carvels to galleons and park some berserks next to the Sumerian town on the new Chinese isle south of the iron and saltpeter island.
Taking Marad will eliminate the Sumerian Saltpeter.
I am not having a good feeling about the end game in this one. It is going to be a tough, tough fight. Sumeria is the big dog and they are posssibly only one tech away from Nationalism which gives them rifles.
Going to try and organize a strike force for Sumeria....
But first I notice we have no embassies, and I ask myself how are we going to steal technology with no embassies....
And then I wonder why we are building the Heroic Epic when Bergen could use a bank, or a temple, or even a new latrine, so I swap to a bank, then pull every galley I can into port for upgrade...
Anyway the net result is I spend down the treasury rushing stuff and setting up embassies and upgradin galleys and like that, so I have to turn down the research budget, but the spending isn't helping our economy anyway because there isn't anyone out there to buy what we learn anyway.
In 1345 sell Metallurgy to the Koreans for 38g+3gpt.
And Sumer builds Bach's in Kish with the SGL they got for learning ToG.
In 1355 the Hittites and Sumer get into war over the northern half of the little island south of worker Island
In 1365 we lose Chengdu (why did we ever take that town in the first place?)
In 1375 Sumer builds Smith's.
In 1375 upgrade some carvels to galleons and park some berserks next to the Sumerian town on the new Chinese isle south of the iron and saltpeter island.
Taking Marad will eliminate the Sumerian Saltpeter.
I am not having a good feeling about the end game in this one. It is going to be a tough, tough fight. Sumeria is the big dog and they are posssibly only one tech away from Nationalism which gives them rifles.
madviking
north american scum
Got It!!!!
madviking
north american scum
0- ...
1- Trond msket -> musket, Reky market -> court, Aarhus worker -> market, Chinan worker -> market, Ningpo worke -> market
IBT: Sumeria kills Mursillis
2- Bergen musket -> musket, some forgoten, faraway city flips , Odense aque -> market
Next 3 later
1- Trond msket -> musket, Reky market -> court, Aarhus worker -> market, Chinan worker -> market, Ningpo worke -> market
IBT: Sumeria kills Mursillis
2- Bergen musket -> musket, some forgoten, faraway city flips , Odense aque -> market
Next 3 later
madviking
north american scum
Sorry, I totally forgot about this SG 
I'll finish now.
I'll finish now.
madviking
north american scum
Nothing really happened the last three turns. We're about ready to strike Sumeria, just more 'serks and galles.
Leha
ooseepoosee
Tomoyo is not here, so I got it.
Play tomorrow.
Play tomorrow.
Leha
ooseepoosee
Preturn
Trade around world maps.
Start research of ToG at 50% (9 turns)
Switch some cities to cavs
1405 AD (1)
1410 AD (2)
Move ships to main island to pick up cavs
1415 AD (3)
Get ToG,wm+50 gold from Celts for Magnetism.
Sumeria has SP, we have to attack them soon, while they don't have rails
Rush some cavs
1420 AD (4)
MM
1425 AD (5)
Korea has Nationalism.
It is not good.They sure will trade it to sumerians and
riflemen will make it much harder.
Our attack force:
SAVE
Trade around world maps.
Start research of ToG at 50% (9 turns)
Switch some cities to cavs
1405 AD (1)
1410 AD (2)
Move ships to main island to pick up cavs
1415 AD (3)
Get ToG,wm+50 gold from Celts for Magnetism.
Sumeria has SP, we have to attack them soon, while they don't have rails
Rush some cavs
1420 AD (4)
MM
1425 AD (5)
Korea has Nationalism.
It is not good.They sure will trade it to sumerians and
riflemen will make it much harder.
Our attack force:
SAVE
Got it, can't play tonight, should have time tomorrow. Time to discus.
Are we down to 5 turns in this SG as well?? Whom do we want to introduce to our cavalry? Do we go for an easier target first or go for a big dog and try to get some allies?
Are we down to 5 turns in this SG as well?? Whom do we want to introduce to our cavalry? Do we go for an easier target first or go for a big dog and try to get some allies?
pr-turn
wake cuple more units
1430AD
Oslo lib->cav
Anyang cannon->cannon
Send ships to Ur (was hoping to take iron but they've got more the 1, so go for horse)
1435AD
Grand River bank->cav
Reykjavik court->cav
IBT sumerian warns us
1440AD
Stavanger duct->cannon
Hareid duct->cannon
Paoting harbor->court
Risor worker->worker
position fleet on border
1445AD
Fauske harbor->court
Land near Legesh as sumeria won't let us get to Ur
IBT sumeria want's us to leave, WAR, they have a MPP with Korea (should have declared before hitting enter so we could have all the allies)
We loose 1 cav in first sumerian strike kill some of theirs our av promotes.
Celt want to trade we get alliance for WM and 340 Gold
1450AD
Trondheim cav->cav
Worker Island harbor ->canon
Get chinese as allie for 180 gold
Found Honningsvlag, rush walls
attack the crusader near Karistad with beserker only get 1 HP off.
wake cuple more units
1430AD
Oslo lib->cav
Anyang cannon->cannon
Send ships to Ur (was hoping to take iron but they've got more the 1, so go for horse)
1435AD
Grand River bank->cav
Reykjavik court->cav
IBT sumerian warns us
1440AD
Stavanger duct->cannon
Hareid duct->cannon
Paoting harbor->court
Risor worker->worker
position fleet on border
1445AD
Fauske harbor->court
Land near Legesh as sumeria won't let us get to Ur
IBT sumeria want's us to leave, WAR, they have a MPP with Korea (should have declared before hitting enter so we could have all the allies)
We loose 1 cav in first sumerian strike kill some of theirs our av promotes.
Celt want to trade we get alliance for WM and 340 Gold
1450AD
Trondheim cav->cav
Worker Island harbor ->canon
Get chinese as allie for 180 gold
Found Honningsvlag, rush walls
attack the crusader near Karistad with beserker only get 1 HP off.
This is madness....We have the bulk of our 'zerk forces on land in hostile territory, only caravels to carry our troops, and the Sumerian army is bearing down on us and the strongest defense we have is cavalry at three and the weakest attacker Sumeria is putting forward is a four. Most of our muskets are at home....and our saltpeter island has absolutely no troops to take out the Sumerian town right next door.
Hire the Chinese to fight on our side against the Sumerians, it costs us 296g which I reclaim by selling China horses, then wipe out the Sumerians in front of Hopeless, and recall the caravels to pick up the survivors. Then kill a Sumer mace outside of Tatung. And hope there are no others in Kutha.
Karistad withstands a Sumer crusader but we lose a musket. Rush muskets in the other towns as well as Karistad. Load the wounded at Hopeless into the remaining caravel and hope the surivivors withstand the next Sumerian onslaught so I can Dunquerque them out of there.
That was hopeless....
And the loss of Hopeless causes war weariness in our largest homeland cities and riots break out all over.
Then I wonder why we have cavlary in our armies anyway. They are more expensive than the 'zerk, cannot attack from ships...we should have been building muskets for 60 and zerks for 70 and sending them out in 50/50 groups of at least four galleon loads.
In 1475 Sumeria lands two boatloads of troops at Anyang, our iron town. It is defended by a single zerk....
Take a look arounbd in 1480 and realize that the island taken from the Chinese is going to go to the Sumerians soon, so I give the towns back to China. I wasn't thinking and forgot to give Fauske to the Chinese so it falls to Sumer and riots break out at home again.
In 1485 get a victory of sorts and capture Kutha, it burns and I resettle in the center of the island.
1490-1500 are spent trying to figure a campaign plan. The saltpeter island is well defended now, I think, so the zerks are recalled home to join up with the flotilla building at Stavanger. If we want iron sail at least four boats north to Alesund, one boat full of muskets, and take it from Sumer, leave the muskets there and sail the zerks to a mid ocean meeting point with the forces from Stavanger. We do need iron to build cannon and frigates and cheap land based attackers (maces).
The alliances now in place include China against Sumer and Korea and Celts against both Sumer and Korea. That should draw off the Sumerians and Koreans to China and Gaul, at least for a while, so our homeland should be safe. The alliances have been secured with Incense and cash payments.
There are luxuries to buy from the Celts but let the war weariness ease a little before doing so as they should then be cheaper (It will take at least two to have noticeable impact).
Hire the Chinese to fight on our side against the Sumerians, it costs us 296g which I reclaim by selling China horses, then wipe out the Sumerians in front of Hopeless, and recall the caravels to pick up the survivors. Then kill a Sumer mace outside of Tatung. And hope there are no others in Kutha.
Karistad withstands a Sumer crusader but we lose a musket. Rush muskets in the other towns as well as Karistad. Load the wounded at Hopeless into the remaining caravel and hope the surivivors withstand the next Sumerian onslaught so I can Dunquerque them out of there.
That was hopeless....
And the loss of Hopeless causes war weariness in our largest homeland cities and riots break out all over.
Then I wonder why we have cavlary in our armies anyway. They are more expensive than the 'zerk, cannot attack from ships...we should have been building muskets for 60 and zerks for 70 and sending them out in 50/50 groups of at least four galleon loads.
In 1475 Sumeria lands two boatloads of troops at Anyang, our iron town. It is defended by a single zerk....
Take a look arounbd in 1480 and realize that the island taken from the Chinese is going to go to the Sumerians soon, so I give the towns back to China. I wasn't thinking and forgot to give Fauske to the Chinese so it falls to Sumer and riots break out at home again.
In 1485 get a victory of sorts and capture Kutha, it burns and I resettle in the center of the island.
1490-1500 are spent trying to figure a campaign plan. The saltpeter island is well defended now, I think, so the zerks are recalled home to join up with the flotilla building at Stavanger. If we want iron sail at least four boats north to Alesund, one boat full of muskets, and take it from Sumer, leave the muskets there and sail the zerks to a mid ocean meeting point with the forces from Stavanger. We do need iron to build cannon and frigates and cheap land based attackers (maces).
The alliances now in place include China against Sumer and Korea and Celts against both Sumer and Korea. That should draw off the Sumerians and Koreans to China and Gaul, at least for a while, so our homeland should be safe. The alliances have been secured with Incense and cash payments.
There are luxuries to buy from the Celts but let the war weariness ease a little before doing so as they should then be cheaper (It will take at least two to have noticeable impact).
madviking
north american scum
Sorry, got it...
madviking
north american scum
0- Ick..
1- F5 advisor pops up, we're the least advanced...
2- ...
3- ...
IBT: Sumeria and Celts sign peace
4- ...
5- capture back Stockholm
Build up units in mainland and start getting back some cities
1- F5 advisor pops up, we're the least advanced...
2- ...
3- ...
IBT: Sumeria and Celts sign peace
4- ...
5- capture back Stockholm
Build up units in mainland and start getting back some cities
Leha
ooseepoosee
Got it.Play tomorrow.
Leha
ooseepoosee
Preturn
Wow, our people are really unhappy.
It is not good. To make good ole vikings happy we need a good king, not republic.
And lots of beers of course
I have no choice but start riot to monarchy
IT
Sumeria start USuffrage
Soon they'll have infantries
1530 AD (1)
Manage clowns and scientists
1535 AD (2)
1540 AD (3)
Take Shantung
IT
Korea signs peace with Celts and China
1545 AD (4)
We sign peace with Korea, the pay 12 gold
IT
Celts declare war on us, sneak attack two of our cities, take none
1550 AD (5)
IT
Sumeria land two rifles and two crusaders near Shantung
1555 AD (6)
Abandon Shantung as there's no way we can hold it
1560 AD (7)
anarchy ends - switch to monarchy
Now vikings are happy, lux down to 30%
Start researching SP at 30% (we'll have it in 15 turns)
1565 AD (8)
We have to sign peace with Sumeria as soon as MA with China ends.
We will lose this war
IT
Celtic fleet approaches Marad.
There are only muskets and cannons there, I hope they'll hold defence
1570 AD (9)
IT
Celts land MDIs and ACs near Hareid
There is AC near Marad also
1575 AD (10)
Buy Economics from Korea for saltpeter and 55 gold
I still did nothing about AC near Marad. Bombard it with cannons and kill with muskets
SAVE
Wow, our people are really unhappy.
It is not good. To make good ole vikings happy we need a good king, not republic.
And lots of beers of course
I have no choice but start riot to monarchy
IT
Sumeria start USuffrage
Soon they'll have infantries
1530 AD (1)
Manage clowns and scientists
1535 AD (2)
1540 AD (3)
Take Shantung
IT
Korea signs peace with Celts and China
1545 AD (4)
We sign peace with Korea, the pay 12 gold
IT
Celts declare war on us, sneak attack two of our cities, take none
1550 AD (5)
IT
Sumeria land two rifles and two crusaders near Shantung
1555 AD (6)
Abandon Shantung as there's no way we can hold it
1560 AD (7)
anarchy ends - switch to monarchy
Now vikings are happy, lux down to 30%
Start researching SP at 30% (we'll have it in 15 turns)
1565 AD (8)
We have to sign peace with Sumeria as soon as MA with China ends.
We will lose this war
IT
Celtic fleet approaches Marad.
There are only muskets and cannons there, I hope they'll hold defence
1570 AD (9)
IT
Celts land MDIs and ACs near Hareid
There is AC near Marad also
1575 AD (10)
Buy Economics from Korea for saltpeter and 55 gold
I still did nothing about AC near Marad. Bombard it with cannons and kill with muskets
SAVE
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