Mafia/NOTW Statistics

I'm slightly iffy on whether Lord of the Flies' last night counts or not. After day 4, there were 6 people left alive, 2 mafia, 3 townies, 1 neutral survivalist. Which I think would be victory for the mafia, except one of the townies was a doctor. And then another one got WoG'ed during the night... so... I think the final night still mattered, but maybe it didn't?

MartinLuther, are you still around to help me with this?
 
That's what I thought, just making sure.

I think I'm going to count Mat as dead rather than WoG'ed, though it's not completely clear to me which one he was or whether both happened at the same time. He wasn't active, but it seems like the other inactive players (topsecret and CivGeneral) got 3 days/night of inactivity before their WoG, while Mat was lynched Day 2.

So that gives me these for the stats:

Town: 10 (Kennigit, Jarrema, KingMorgan, Yaropolk, BSmith1068, JoanK, Zack, Visorslash, CivGeneral, topsecret)

Mafia: 3 (Mat93, spaceman98, Sprig)

Neutral: 1 (SouthernKing)

Won: 4 (Mat93, spaceman98, Sprig, SouthernKing)

Lost: 10 (Kennigit, Jarrema, KingMorgan, Yaropolk, BSmith1068, JoanK, Zack, Visorslash, CivGeneral, topsecret)

WoG'ed: 2 (CivGeneral, topsecret)

Survived: 4 (spaceman98, Sprig, SouthernKing, Kennigit)
 
So... who's been killed most D1 and N1? After Zack, of course.
 
I wouldn't know.... I keep track of whether people survived to the end or not, but not when they died if they died.
 
I think this is right for Ghost Town:

Town: 15 (BSmith1068, Sprig, Choxorn, Kennigit, KingMorgan, spaceman98, JoanK, DaveShack, Takhisis, Edse, Yaropolk, Duck999, MartinLuther, Zack, Visorslash)

Mafia: 3 (Newyn, CELTICEMPIRE, Riedquat)

Neutral: 1 (SamSniped)

Won: 4 (Newyn, CELTICEMPIRE, Riedquat, SamSniped)

Lost: 15 (BSmith1068, Sprig, Choxorn, Kennigit, KingMorgan, spaceman98, JoanK, DaveShack, Takhisis, Edse, Yaropolk, Duck999, MartinLuther, Zack, Visorslash)

Survived: 2 (BSmith1068, Newyn)

What I'm iffy on is survives. What's the difference between the mostly-dead ghosts and the all-dead non-existent guys? Did the last night matter or not (the final day ended with one mafia and two townies, then Newyn killed Sprig, and with one mafia and one townie at the end of the night the mafia won)? I know there were power roles among the dead townies, but I can't remember what they could do while dead. And it doesn't look like anyone was replaced or WoG'ed, I'm not sure?

Jarrema, a little help?

EDIT: Thanks, think I've got it
 
I will be not very helpful here...
I intentionally took a break from mafia games, and I tried to forget about them. I deleted my files, and so on. Therefore, I will say what I remember:
1. Being 'dead' and 'eliminated' were two different things. Dead players participated in game, and all of them had one or more powers. 'Eliminated' players were killed totally.
2. But, for the analysis of win/defeat, dead players counted as dead. Therefore, I think it is correct to count all ghost as dead.
3. IIRC, there were one town and one mafia at the end of night. And that was moment of the game end. So, these two persons are the survivors.
4. Powers were different among ghost. I hope you dont need exact list. It included alignment scanning, tracking, protecting, and more
5. Remember that there were 3 factions. IIRC, SamSniped won the game together with mafia (his goal was to 'exist' as a ghost untill the end of game). SamSniped started as a townie, but after day 1 he was 'recruited'(?) to the third faction
 
Yeah, but Sam had a completely separate victory condition, hence counting as neutral.

I think I got all that- it sounds like I should count BSmith and Newyn as surviving and everyone else as dying, so that's what I'll do.
 
I think thats right decision
 
I vaguely remember replacing someone. I also think that I did not wog anyone. But I am not sure, and I destroyed my notes. The only method would be checking the game thread
 
I vaguely remember replacing someone. I also think that I did not wog anyone. But I am not sure, and I destroyed my notes. The only method would be checking the game thread

The player group on Day 1 is the same as the player group at the end, so there's no replacements. Might be a WoG, though.
 
OOC: Zack asked me to be removed from the game. I did not found proper replacement. Because Zack was important (he was a medium) I decided to remove him and ‘transfer’ his role to another living player from the same faction. If you do not like this decision, criticize me after end of the game.
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edit: I think "non-existent" player list might be WOGed players

Non-existent:
1. Zack
2. Visorslash
 
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