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Link the article anyway? Do you have a source that actually reflects the words you said? Because the teeny screenshot you posted does not have enough context, information, or actually say the words you said.
 
More than a few people (mostly men, probably) see Donald Trump as the next coming of Julius Caesar and Barron Trump as the new Augustus Caesar. And, just speaking for myself, I am completely onboard for this.
I can only lament the lack of perspective that can lead to such grotesque equivalence.
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Okay, that one was hilarious :lol:
 
Okay, so this one singular person was punished accordingly.

And?
And where was Biden condemning this evil act? Where was Kamala? My point was to say that there are reasons people support Trump that has nothing to do with him being a "cult leader." By all means, oppose his policies, oppose them all if you want. But the condescending attitude that his supporters must be racist or willfully ignorant is just... the reason why Democrats lost.
 
More than a few people (mostly men, probably) see Donald Trump as the next coming of Julius Caesar and Barron Trump as the new Augustus Caesar. And, just speaking for myself, I am completely onboard for this.
At the inauguration, Barron made a point of going over to Obama and shaking his hand. trump did not. Barron was raised by his mother, not trump's father. don't count on him being another Donald.
 
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you wrote the following
I'm someone who believes that human nature stays consistent throughout history, so I would say the proportion of Americans who are MAGA is the exact same as the proportion of Romans who supported Julius Caesar.
the invoked premises of some wild takes is you as a trusted point of judgment; it is then fair to ask about educational credentials,

or, well,

whats your degree
 
you wrote the following

the invoked premises of some wild takes is you as a trusted point of judgment; it is then fair to ask about educational credentials,

or, well,

whats your degree
I have a master's in history but I was not a classicist, my focus was early modern Europe, particularly education theory. I can confidently say though that some of the dumbest people I have ever known in my life were in college, so I don't consider a degree to be an indication of anything other than someone having gone through the steps to get a degree.
 
I have a master's in history but I was not a classicist, my focus was early modern Europe, particularly education theory.
alright, so, going by that, how does-
I can confidently say though that some of the dumbest people I have ever known in my life were in college, so I don't consider a degree to be an indication of anything other than someone having gone through the steps to get a degree.
... sure, then. most of your posts here are really strange, which is why i'm personally trying to figure you out. not as in strange opinions (i mean, they are), but as in you seem to write really concisely and clearly as to phrasing, but like, going one layer in, content is just weird & wild. a lot of it is rhetorical maneuvering (vaccine thread for one). reads like high media training and specifically established nomenclature and invoked rhetoric that's *insanely* anti-intellectual and would not have been picked up in any university i know, without it being paired with a lot of reflection as to what any of such usage would imply. but maybe i'm just a dirty european.

eg it is insane to me that anyone that would gleefully appeal to libertarianism, as in the actual tenets and not the strange expression it has been given in the states, and at the same time gleefully appeal to julius f* caesar - both with the assumption that such a position would in any way be framed as a good thing for an observer with even superficial knowledge of even, like... rome.

basically, i will trust your claims of credentials. that you compare trump to caesar and think this is good is buck wild. i know i can be hard to read - english is not my first language - but you may understand some trace as to why i think your position is confusing.

so regardless of how stupid academia is to you, i'll believe in your credentials. my second question would be for you to outline your positive relation with the comparison, and why we'd like it beyond culturally recognizing that julius caesar was indeed an important great mr. history man.
 
It's really not that deep. One of my favorite shows was HBO's Rome, and I enjoyed the depiction of Julius Caesar as a populist leader. Following his great success as a leader, "Roman Deep State" tried to discredit him and drag him to trial on false charges, Caesar remained defiant and with his supporters effectively took control of the state. In doing this, he returned leadership to the people, as he cared for more about the common Roman than any of the wealthy elite Senatorial class, and enjoyed the overwhelming support of the military. The parallels are evident to me, but if you disagree or find the comparison distasteful then you are welcome to ignore it.
 
It's really not that deep. One of my favorite shows was HBO's Rome, and I enjoyed the depiction of Julius Caesar as a populist leader. Following his great success as a leader, "Roman Deep State" tried to discredit him and drag him to trial on false charges, Caesar remained defiant and with his supporters effectively took control of the state. In doing this, he returned leadership to the people, as he cared for more about the common Roman than any of the wealthy elite Senatorial class, and enjoyed the overwhelming support of the military. The parallels are evident to me, but if you disagree or find the comparison distasteful then you are welcome to ignore it.
you understand that this is wild coming from someone with a masters in history right
 
Why does every other thread on this forum end up with people posting just the weirdest attempts at analogy with ancient Roman history that anyone ever heard?
 
It's definitely a loose third. It's literally just the majority of people with rightwing authoritarian (personality (disorder)).

25% in 2021 had a "high" RWA scores and an addition 13% had low RWA.

The middle third of course think Biden is BORING and Trump made a dope fist and chanted "fight" after his ear took shrapnel so let's invade Greenland (you know, to lower egg prices).
I gotta say, trying to characterize right wing sentiment as a personality disorder is bizarre. What personality disorder should we associate with all the guys just watching the deportations happen? As in, most people? Or is that normal, and the abnormal thing is watching Fox News talk about communists in the skools for twenty years and then coming to believe it? Maybe there’s another personality disorder for people too rich to notice inflation. Something like “ignorant cannibal’s disease.” Or another personality disorder for anyone who was OK with the empire while they bought a bridge about hope and peace while selling guns and bombs to Israel? That one might be my favorite.
 
More than a few people (mostly men, probably) see Donald Trump as the next coming of Julius Caesar and Barron Trump as the new Augustus Caesar. And, just speaking for myself, I am completely onboard for this.
:lmao:

Trump reminds more of Nero!...and a deranged Leto II.

Not sure if Trump is more like Nero or Caligula.

Both of them were complete BS!C narcissists, and both were into performative politics. I'm not as familiar with Nero as I am with Caligula, so I'll ask this: What sort of relationship did Trump have with his mother? Caligula loved his female relatives (a bit too closely in the case of his sisters), but Nero made multiple attempts to murder his own mother before succeeding. Did Trump throw any other relatives under the bus?

Hm... Leto II. Well, it's true that he hated the Bene Gesserit, which is as close to religion as that society got, unless you want to count the absolutely bizarre Tleilaxu. Mind you, Trump would approve of the Tleilaxu due to their view of women as incubators for offspring and serving no other purpose.

Trump rambles and babbles like Leto II, though, and figures nobody else has ever suffered as much as he has, nor done so much for an ungrateful humanity. And both of them chose to become what they ended up as.

Do you see Trump going to Swannanoa, NC today and meeting with ordinary citizens who lost their homes in Hurricane Helene? Trump let several of them speak to tell their stories while he listened, asked questions, and sympathized with them. He pledged to kick FEMA in the ass to get them to actually provide funding while also praising private charities who had been active with recovery. Now if you're a resident of North Carolina, and FEMA under Biden was actively avoiding houses with Trump signs, and illegal immigrants were getting more housing than citizens who lost everything in a storm, wouldn't you be mad? Then Trump comes to your town, listens to your story and shakes your hand, and promises to your face that he will help you. Who would you support? Is this a case of Trump being a cult leader? Or is it just him being a decent person and a good leader, and people seeing that and becoming loyal to him out of appreciation?

It's a politician making promises, akin to what I read about this morning regarding the premier of my province turning on the crocodile tears about Jasper (a tourist town in one of our national parks; it burned to the ground last summer in a wildfire, while our premier was gallivanting around the province elsewhere, attending rodeos and going on holidays). The promises of housing and other supports are easy to make. But in neither of these cases should the people affected hold their breath waiting for those promises to be fulfilled.

It's really not that deep. One of my favorite shows was HBO's Rome, and I enjoyed the depiction of Julius Caesar as a populist leader. Following his great success as a leader, "Roman Deep State" tried to discredit him and drag him to trial on false charges, Caesar remained defiant and with his supporters effectively took control of the state. In doing this, he returned leadership to the people, as he cared for more about the common Roman than any of the wealthy elite Senatorial class, and enjoyed the overwhelming support of the military. The parallels are evident to me, but if you disagree or find the comparison distasteful then you are welcome to ignore it.

That show took a great many liberties with real history. :shake:
 
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