Mansa Musa - Inland_Sea - Deity

[yanner39]

Hey kossin,

Wondering if you could post your 1AD save? You bpt rate is amazing and I just don't get how you've accomplished it. I guess 11 cities means more TR income, but also more maintenance. And as you mentioned on top of that, many of these cities we're 20 turns behind in development. I would have thought that many of these under-developed cities would be more of a drain on your economy.

Thanks.

 

[kossin]

You'll have to excuse me but I've removed the saves from my USB key since posting was completed. I might still have them at home, I'll check in 2 weeks or so.

Beakers: almost 50% came from the capital, and then I had 2 cottage cities + a few other cottages in other cities. Factor in trade routes and you get a high bpt.

You are right that you pay more upkeep from more cities, and your stable bpt might go slightly down overall as a result but:
-you can (and should) always find more gold
-if you wait to settle those cities later, they'll become useful later too... really once you have Currency and trade routes to a neighbor you should just keep expanding as long as you have workers available at new city spots

 

[yanner39]

You'll have to excuse me but I've removed the saves from my USB key since posting was completed. I might still have them at home, I'll check in 2 weeks or so.

Beakers: almost 50% came from the capital, and then I had 2 cottage cities + a few other cottages in other cities. Factor in trade routes and you get a high bpt.

You are right that you pay more upkeep from more cities, and your stable bpt might go slightly down overall as a result but:
-you can (and should) always find more gold
-if you wait to settle those cities later, they'll become useful later too... really once you have Currency and trade routes to a neighbor you should just keep expanding as long as you have workers available at new city spots

Thanks kossin. No worries about the save. I think you've pretty much summed things up. I get 100 bpt at 1AD and I'm pretty happy with myself. I thought 200 was just crazy.

 

[Grashopa]

Heres me to 1AD

Spoiler :

Compared to Kossin, I skipped archery ( built 4 warriors to spawn bust ) and went Ag-BW-Pottery chopping out a second worker before whipping the first settler than a granary before the second settler. Also my warrior got stuck to my east by the pigs so I settled there first. I used the pig city to whip out a couple settlers before grabbing a library for a GS about 15-20? turns after Kossin.

At this 1720BC shot I'm about to whip a settler in pig city and I grabbed the horse silver. This was probably a mistake since the western flood plains would have been better to settle first, but while I was fog busting that way I didn't have anything but the warriors.



Pig city is about to 3 pop whip a settler to time the marble snag with my capital's library. You'll note I'm cottaging the western two cities...




Its 1 AD now, I'm 4 turns from Education and should have farmed these 2 cities so I could get universities out. Not to mention getting libraries for culture reasons. I also could have taken the barb city last turn and hit next turn just as I remembered... Capital looks nice, I probably should have settled the rice/cows a bit earlier for health, but waited for the Dutch settler to arrive. Also trading pig for dyes which I need to cancel.

Think I'm ahead of Kossin here likely because of the 2 workers early. But music went at 450BC so I have no GA and my second GS is just arriving shortly. I expect he may have Oxford in before me though since I f'd up not farming the extra cities.

 

[Grashopa]

No one else played through the game?

 

[kossin]

Nice eastern expansion, I didn't explore early enough and then that barb city appeared, screwing up my chances. About the music GA: I really should have used him earlier to get Oxford up, iIrc I waited way too long to trigger it, messing around the game too much

 

[Grashopa]

Certainly the GA would have gone to get Oxford in asap. Oxford is my the only goal on my mind in games like this, but I haven't been playing awhile and completely forgot to get the farms started early enough not to mention lack of scouting to notice the culture pressure.