Mario Mafia [MAFIA VICTORY]

Your total insensitivity to the objective gravity of Rask's realization is noted.
I detect some unsubtle shade there.
Could my "insensitivity to the objective gravity" perhaps have something to do with my disregard for Rask's accusation?
I thought I had a "gotcha" moment. It turns out I was wrong.

Monty, are you scumreading Zack? I think at this point you should be, considering how often you are talking to/about him yet not declaring him towny.
 
I detect some unsubtle shade there.
Could my "insensitivity to the objective gravity" perhaps have something to do with my disregard for Rask's accusation?
I thought I had a "gotcha" moment. It turns out I was wrong.

I am unimpressed by your disregard. Your night record is like something a procedural would lean on if it wanted to generate a shallow twist about the identity of the perp. But no higher author is scripting our actions here.

Monty, are you scumreading Zack? I think at this point you should be, considering how often you are talking to/about him yet not declaring him towny.

You can't just leave it at 'Look, squirrel.' I have already proposed scanning him.


Please all adhere to the following as the default template in case superseding arrangements cannot be deliberatively reached in the coming hours.

NIGHT CONFERENCE DRAFT 2


1. @choxorn and @JohannaK can target me for money.

2. Csargo, you're probably inoperative for team purposes but deflect onto someone naughty, like Logic.
Spoiler :
Once we've lynched another mafia, just in case he is actually targeted for NK he should announce his target at night. The idea being if Csargo ever dies at night, it will be because his publicly-named target must have been the one who attacked him. This will be an effective backstop once there is only a single killing role remaining, although all it really does is guarantee Csargo's life (I doubt mafia are gunning for him).


3. @LordArgon Default to protecting Rask.

4. Rask, block Yako.

5. @Snerk, scan Zack.

6. Tomorrow's Tdome should be Newyn-Yako IMO. Especially if I die. @Takhisis please DO NOT interfere with the actions on either of these. And avoid Csargo just in case.
 
We also have to thief claims. Jo and Pzelda. Wouldn't be too off to imagine that both factions has one each.

Now we know pzelda is Koopa, what do we do with this?

Tomorrow's Tdome should be Newyn-Yako IMO. Especially if I die. @Takhisis please DO NOT interfere with the actions on either of these. And avoid Csargo just in case.

What makes you kinder with Tak, Montmo?
 
@Zack is your PR so important that you think discussing it will draw NK before Argon, Snerk, Rask, or me?

@LordArgon please submit protection on Raskolnikov for now. We can discuss further considerations later, just put in an order to start.

Note: If Yako is scum then Csargo and Jo should be cleared by D2 votes. Similar supporting material for Chox if either Newyn or Yako are scum.

Though I want to block/scan Yako and turbolynch Newyn, my premise is the likeliest scenario is that both are scum. Please discuss.
I find it quite odd that you look at these vote counts, and this is your conclusion.
 
Now we know pzelda is Koopa, what do we do with this?

I think that kind of parallelism is a mirage. This isn't a very symmetric game in terms of role types. For example, Snerk is a flawed scanner, you have a block-scan, and I assume you're both town. Both of our coin-disbursers Visor and Tim (though idk what Dolbster, Manasi, Newyn 1.0 were) were town and appeared to have the same abilities. Bad idea to lynch Johannna on this basis, not least when the POE is such a tightrope.

What makes you kinder with Tak, Montmo?

He's still in the POE. But consider this in his favor. He got on the Syn wagon back when there was a triple tie - he might have avoided that yet as scum. Unless the team is Choxorn-Tak exactly, we have Chox's confirmation that Tak represented his coin count accurately, which implies his action representations were also accurate. Syn was lynched in part because we had reason to suspect the veracity of his action/role representations, and in fact he was proven to be lying. Demonstrable accuracy is therefore a point in someone's favor IMO. And we know he didn't kill on N3 because you blocked him. This is critical: if we lynch another mafia then assuming 3 mafia and 1 3P it is possible to lock clear Tak by blocking him again.

One way or another Newyn and Yako need to be resolved before Tak.

Thoughts on night action conference?

Monty's just a wolf pushing for easy mislynches but I'm kind of too busy with work this week to argue about it so whatever :p

Please just flip Luigi.

I find it quite odd that you look at these vote counts, and this is your conclusion.

Why?

You don't have to wait for my presence to solve the game you know.
 
Please don't tell me D5:

"Rask is dead"
"He was town"
'Argon, what did you do last night?'
'Mmmph... huh?'

This is what default orders are for everyone. No discussion? No excuses.
 
6. Tomorrow's Tdome should be Newyn-Yako IMO. Especially if I die. @Takhisis please DO NOT interfere with the actions on either of these. And avoid Csargo just in case.
Right, not targetting any of the three then. :salute:
 
Right, not targetting any of the three then. :salute:

Thank you. But not Zack either, or you'll probably nullify Snerk's scan again!
 
None of the four then.
 
Don't worry, I got Rask covered

Great. Although, just saying, if you feel up to it you can protect Snerk or me. But read the last couple days very carefully first. Your track record has its flaws of course, and if you don't feel perfectly confident relying on your initiative based on your understanding of the game you should stay on Rask. Give it a look.
 
No one needs my permission to contribute to solving the game. In fact, if I die, remember to read back my posts through N2. My arguments on why Snerk and Argon should be lock town are still applicable. We should make the decision to throw down for trusting Rask and Choxorn. I am certain that Newyn-Logic blows open the game. Dig for more info from Zack - there's no reason to believe he's a more important townie than Rask - and take the next mafia flip as an opportunity to clear Tak in the manner described (which Mafia can't abuse because holstering to get Tak mislynched just adds another day to the game). And remember that if Yako is scum, Csargo and Jo probably cleared.



CLAIMS LIST (help me fill it out with anything already in-thread)

Argon [Sergeant Guy] - bodyguard, protected Csargo N1, robbed N2
N1: Csargo
N2: Tim; robbed of 1 coin
N3: Monty

Snerk [Tanoomba] - modified role cop
N1: scanned Tim as give-2-get-2 coins, awarded 2 coins (by Visor)
N2: Scan on Argon failed (blocked?)
N3: scanned Argon as doctor

Rask [Bowser] - I have several operationnal abilities, all coins related, and a passive ability that grants me new abilities when townies are mislynched. Block ability gained after Manasi lynch, 1 coin gain, 3 if blocked was targeting you. Started with ability to gain target's night net + 1.
N1: targeted Dolbster with "gain more coin than target" but failed; awarded 2 coins (by Tim)
N2: blocked Zelda
N3: blocked Tak

Johanna [Thwomp] - stealer role, gets two coins if target is also targeted by someone else (motion detector). "I am a thwomp. I knock one coin out of the target's purse then get mine."
N1: targeted Dolbster, got bonus
N2: targeted Csargo but gained bonus (someone else visited Csargo)
N3: targeted Csargo, no bonus

Zack - private message, 1 coin if message received
N1: 'Syn, post tallies or else'; awarded 2 coins (by Visor)
N2: 'Monty, if you are 3P post "crisp lasagna"'
N3: Johanna, tallies




Logic [Koopa Troopa] - motion detector (?), a coin for every action/player on the target
N1: not used
N2: Zelda is lying because Visor was targeted by the killer and Logic only
N3: Tim, 1 other visitor (killer); awarded 4 coins (from Tim?)

Newyn [Boomerang Bro] - "I get a coin for each player that visits me during the night"
N1: 2 visits (coins)
N2: 0 visits
N3: 0 visits

Csargo [Boo] - deflector (ghost, "If I'm targeted it targets the person I'm hiding behind"), gets a coin if targeted; "if I target someone who targets me then my action fails, such is the weakness of my role."
N1: Newyn 2.0 (was targeted?)
N2: Argon
N3: Johanna (failed), lost a coin (to Johanna)

Tak [Koopa Paratroopa] - "my ability is to protect people from minor harmful actions (e.g. [possibly] rôleblockers and coin-thiefs) and I get one shiny coin for every person who's targetted them that night and I saved them from (if they're killed I don't know what happens) plus 1 for myself for getting off my arse. And no, I don't get to see actions against them from which I cannot protect them nor can I see what abilities they use or on whom they use them."
N1: Zack, 2 coins
N2: LordArgon, 2 coins.
N3: Argon, failed.

Choxorn [Baby Bowser]- Appraising wealth of target, 1 coin if fewer, 2 coin if more
N1: Dolbster (more)
N2: Johanna (more)
N3: "Takhisis. My result was consistent with his claimed 7 coins from yesterday," robbed of 2 coins (Zelda?)
Spoiler :

Cause I had 7 at the start of the night and got a result of Takhisis having the same number of coins as me.

As to how I had 7: My ability grants me 1 coin if the person I scan has fewer than me but 2 if they have more, I started with 3, and both the players I scanned the first two nights had more coins than I did.


Zelda [Bandit] - stealing ability
N1: targeted Tim (because Tim would die and coin game doesn't matter - but this was a lie?)
N2: targeted Visor but failed
N3: targeted Choxorn

Synsensa [Red Coin Coffer, but actually Lava Bubble] - "three-day charge ability that steals between 4 to 6 coins during the third night, but I have to target someone and hope they survive that long too"; gains coins each charging night
N1: Visor
N2: Visor

Tim [Coin Coffer] - coin-disbursing power (1-4 to one or 2 to two), 1 coin gained per use
N1: Gave 2 to Rask, had 2 robbed
N2: Gave 4 to Monty, was awarded 2 (by Visor?)

Monty [Sun] - very powerful lynch-manipulating ability, 3 coins for guessing the lynch
N1: Guessed Snerk
N2: Guessed Choxorn, received 4 coins from Tim and 2 from Visor
N3: Guessed Zelda

Visor - coin-disbursing power (1-4 to one or 2 to two) targeted Zack and Snerk N1
 
End of Night Four

Sleep, sweet sleep. Yakostovian always enjoyed a sweet sleep; after all, what could happen to him at night?

More than he bargained for, apparently.

Yakostovian heard a loud stomping noise outside of his room. That's strange, he mused in his slumbered state, I don't remember hearing that noise unless...

Bowser.

There was no other explanation. Yakostovian jumped up, ready to do his work. After all, what else would he do? He popped out his room, ready to meet Bowser...

And was fried to a crisp.

Yakostovian has been killed!
Spoiler :
He was Koopa Troopa!
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Spoiler :
He was a member of the Koopa Kingdom!


Bowser, otherwise known as RRRaskolnikov, was pretty disappointed. He had thought that Yakostovian would be allied with Mario, but it was one of his loyal soldiers! It was tragic!

But he didn't have time to regret his decision.

"WA-HOO!"

Bowser turned around to see an old archnemesis. "YOU!" he shouted.

But it was too late. Bowser had made the mistake of standing on the platform connected to THE AXE.

BowserDeath.jpg


RRRaskolnikov has been killed!
Spoiler :
He was Bowser!
300px-BowserNSMBUDX.png
Spoiler :
He was a member of the Koopa Kingdom!

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Day Five has begun!
Day Five will end in around 48 hours after this post, on Friday, January 17th at approximately 8:30 PM EST.

Vote for someone to lynch in bold using the vote: Topsecret format.

Vote for someone to receive one coin in blue.

Players [9]:
  1. Takhisis
  2. JohannaK
  3. Montmorency
  4. Choxorn
  5. Snerk
  6. Csargo
  7. Zack
  8. LordArgon
  9. Newyn

You may begin voting and posting.
 
Well, crap. I assume Rask secretly gained a vig.

Report actions.
 
I did lose a coin btw.
 
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