MIC2 - Lightning Chinese Riders

Sorry, I can't play. I've been doing something with the family for most of the day, and am dead tired right now.

Could I please get either a skip, or a delay? Thanks.
 
Thanks for the update, Gogf, I hope you can play next round. Or whenever you feel like playing, please let me know and I'll try to reshuffle the roster.

roster:

microbe
gozpel
grahamiam
Gogf - skipped
Aggie - up
grs - on deck
 
IHT: Beijing switched to spear, Shanghai to warrior. We have an awful lot of military and only one worker... I up the science to 10% to get our min science run up to speed again. We didn't seem to have lost a turn on it.

IT: Beijing: spear->spear. It's too small to build a settler next.

Turn 1 (1725 BC) Nanking founded near the cattle. Starting with a granary. Military goes to the furs as microbe suggests.

IT: Shanghai: warrior->worker.

Turn 2 (1700 BC) America and Mongolia know Writing. Our income is not good enough to profit from the tech situation atm.

Turn 3, 4 (1675, 1650 BC) :sleep:

Turn 5 (1625 BC) Our income increased to 12 gpt. I buy Writing from Mongolia for 11 gpt and 1 gold. Spain gives us Mathematics for Writing and 13 gold. Greece gives us Iron Working and 14 gold for Writing. India gives Mysticism for Writing. We are level in tech, have 66 gold, but only make 1 gpt. Not enough -imho- to go for the Philo run (we would need 30 turns). I start min science on Literature instead.

There is iron to the east. We should be able to grab it.

IT: Shanghai: worker->spear.

Turn 6 (1600 BC) :sleep:

IT: Beijing: spear->settler.

Turn 7 (1575 AD) Spanish warriors are very close to Shanghai. I send the spear of Beijing there.

Turn 8, 9 (1550 AD, 1525 AD) Spain, America and Mongolia know HBR.

IT: Canton: worker->barracks.

Turn 10 (1500 BC) Spain only goes barb hunting. Greece and Mongolia know Polytheism. Freece also learned about HBR. We are very small as an empire. This will not change soon I'm afraid. We might even need to swap Beijing to a granary instead of a settler. It will otherwise take too long to grow.

Our lands:

MIC2-1500BCempire.JPG


The Spanish troops in the SW are two warriors. I haven't seen a settler there yet.
 
grs said:
Got it! I agree with changing Beijing to a granary and starting a settler after it.
perhaps canton should get a granery instead of a barracks. it has a lot more food potential than the others. 2 irrigated FP, a mined sugar, and 2 irrigated plains will give us +4fpt and +4spt (5-1 for corruption). we can MM off 2 of the FP at turn 3 to 2 irrigated plains for extra shields (extra plains available due to settler near iron hill). probably could do 1 settler every 6 or 7T, depending on corruption. not great, or even good, but better. if we whip a temple as well, we could probably get 2 sugars which would make things better and, based on some rough corruption calc's, we should be able to do it in 6T. getting connected to the capital via road will help too. Nanking will have lower corruption so the granery there will work even better but will have food issues. 2 cities doing 1 settler each every 6 or 7T with all the other cities also contributing will work pretty good.

the reality is that we don't have an ideal settler "pump" location so every town will have to make settlers once they get in pop range. it'll make things slow but we'll multiply like bacteria (good thing microbe started this game :) )
 
PreTurn: Beijing switched to granary, wake Shanghai spear and move it towards Nanking to free archer
IBT: Abe is angry about our warrior
1475BC: moving
IBT: Abe demands us to leave or declare - we automove; a barb nears Beijing
1450BC: we spot a barb camp se of Beijing
IBT: a spain warrior clears the lone barb near Canton; Abe demands 22 gold, no way - he declares; Shanghai spear-warrior
1425BC: war happiness helps us; we remove a barb near Beijing
IBT: nothing
1400BC: disperse the barb camp se of Beijing
IBT: a volcano near Delphi becomes active
1375BC: movement
IBT: Isabella wants 24 gold - we give in as her forces are to close to us
1350BC: movement
IBT: Shanghai warrior - warrior; Abe shows us his archers
1325BC: movement
IBT: the volcano near Delphi erupts
1300BC: lure Abe's archers around
IBT: a barb nears Shanghai, Beijing granary-settler, Spain beats us to a barb camp, Abe moves his archers back to Washington
1275BC: movement
IBT: nothing
1250BC: movement, protect the worker near Shanghai with an archer

Block for Spanish settler (not seen yet) is in place - we have 6 units. Nanking is about to riot, clown will be cheaper then lux. We have 2 warriors near Philadelphia, maybe hit Abe once and extort? Settler from Beijing in 6.

Map with proposed next settling points.
mic2-1250.jpg
 
Block for Spanish settler (not seen yet) is in place - we have 6 units. Nanking is about to riot, clown will be cheaper then lux.

Nope, no clown please. We need the production. We can also move a warrior there as MP.

I don't like the red dot - it's too agressive and AI will not like it. One tile SE is better.

microbe - up
gozpel - on deck
grahamiam -
Gogf -
Aggie -
grs -
 
microbe said:
I don't like the red dot - it's too agressive and AI will not like it. One tile SE is better.
may want to look at 1T south. river and coast to get a dingy out looking for new buddies. plus we'll get more food from the coast tile when we get a harbor built.

edit: x-post with aggie. seems we agree :)
 
preturn: fire clown in Nanking and raise lux to 30 instead.

I switch Canton from rax to settler.

IBT Spain builds Colossus. Also sends a settler.

(1)1225BC:

I establish an embassy with Greece. Athens is size 1 with 2 hoplites and 1 settler. One lux. Another settler is due in 2 turns. No resources connected yet.

America asks for Canton for peace.

(2)1200BC: The spanish settler goes north.

(3)1175BC:
(4)1150BC:
(5)1125BC:
I'm really worried about America pulling MA against us - it has over 300g! And I don't see we have anything to offer for peace. We should not have refused the demand.

We have a 2-fer opportunity, and I'm more worried about Spain than Greece, so
113g+10gpt to Spain for Polytheism.
Polytheism to India for HBR+37g.

IBT 2 American warriors appear at Canton.
(6)1100BC: We have 2 warriors in Canton and AI would have to attack across river, but I switch Canton to spear due next turn, to be sure.

IBT Mongols builds Oracle.

(7)1075BC: Vet warrior kills reg warrior.

IBT another American warrior shows up.

(8)1050BC: Lux can drop to 0 this turn..

(9)1025BC: Totally 4 American reg warriors around Canton. No worry here.

We just got to the iron spot before Spain.

IBT One American warrior dies to our reg spear taking one hp.

(10)1000BC: Tsingtao is founded. We have incense! I found Tsingtao next to the river instead of the hill. We can launch attack to 3 cities from here. The only drawback is that the second incense isn't secured yet. But I expect us to take those cities anyway. You can also set Tsingtao to temple.

I set Canton to worker.

American is still asking for quite some gold for peace. I don't know why it doesn't MA with Greece, maybe it doesn't have embassy yet. America also has horses, I hope it won't send horsemen so soon.

We need to connect horse asap, then we can prepare some attack against Spain!

Remember: slow units cannot attack outside our territory.

microbe - just played
gozpel - up
grahamiam - on deck
Gogf -
Aggie -
grs -
 
fire clown in Nanking and raise lux to 30 instead
I just suggested the clown because we already were in overproduction.

Remember: slow units cannot attack outside our territory.
Oops, my idea of attacking an American city did not comply to that rule - I see.
 
Ah well, another tricky situation, right?

I got it, and will play tomorrow
(plus the other one, microbe, been a mighty busy couple of days RL)

We really might want peace, if it's staight gold I'm for it. GPT is not in my book if we're not overrun by superior units, and it doesn't look like that yet. After all, gold is just that, gold.

You have a halfday to state your comments before I play.
 
only comment i got is to connect those horses :) peace with america sounds fine or you can sign greece to an MA and let them chew each other up. that should give us some breathing room to settler our area.
 
MA with Greece isn't possible.
Peace with America requires quite some gpt.

I suggest we send some archers other there and kill those warriors. Then the price may drop. I don't want to face horsemen.

We got into war by refusing a tiny 22g tribute demand. I would suggest ppl not be so defiant.
 
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