Middle East thread

My initial comment was in line with the actors that have been deeply involved in Assad's Syria, yours wasn't.
Apparently no one can bring the obvious/fact checked Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia bad without you chiming in that one might be forgetting about Israel. Why?
Do the crimes of Israel make the the countries/terrorists organizations I just mentioned appear less evil/bad in your view? Why do you need to project the "hey but what about Israel" shtick?
I am very aware and I've repeated in this forum that Israel took 7/10 to justify an overkill war with serious crimes. Why do you need to rub in my face Israel is evil when I am addressing Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia?
 
My initial comment was in line with the actors that have been deeply involved in Assad's Syria, yours wasn't.
Without qualifying what you mean by "deep involved in", the country that's been illegally occupying land there for years absolutely counts in my opinion.
Apparently no one can bring the obvious/fact checked Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia bad without you chiming in that one might be forgetting about Israel. Why?
Do the crimes of Israel make the the countries/terrorists organizations I just mentioned appear less evil/bad in your view? Why do you need to project the "hey but what about Israel" shtick?
I am very aware and I've repeated in this forum that Israel took 7/10 to justify an overkill war with serious crimes. Why do you need to rub in my face Israel is evil when I am addressing Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia?
This thread has nothing to do with the other thread and I'm keeping it that way.

I was simply commenting on how selective you're being with your association with mass graves found in Syria and related powers / factions. Why did you need to project the "hey but what about Russia" shtick? Why do you need to rub in our faces that Hamas / Iran / etc are evil? Isn't the mass grave damning enough?

Why is guilt by association okay for you, but not for me? Israel are as involved in the region as any other power. Moreso, if their recent airstrikes are anything to go by.
 
Not even going to bother any further!
Take the pedals, I'll take the bike.
Have a good day sir!
 
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What he say?

Spoiler :
 
What are the prospects of Kurds in Syria now? In the news, I read that Turkey wants to take them down regardless of the US.
I am not sure what are the relations with current Syrian leaders, but even if they would be against that they do not have chance against Turkey.
Also are there still some former government forces in Syria?
 
anyone with oilwells gets spoiled . They are going to be given a rough drubbing so that they will fight Iran , inside Iran . Might loose substantial amounts of territory in Syria , but the US troops are already in Rakka . Do not fall for heroic talking , Trump wrote some letter and wrecked New Turkey economy in a week and it's in some Trump hotel as a trophy behind glass , proof of his ultra super powers . Like the EU Goverments are falling right and left in the form of vassals to satisfy the feudal lord , right ?
 

Israeli troops will occupy buffer zone inside Syria for the foreseeable future, says Netanyahu​

Recently seized a swath of territory alongside the occupied Golan Heights

The Israeli military will remain inside Syrian territory — in what is supposed to be a demilitarized zone — indefinitely, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday, as part of what he described as an effort to shore up security amid the turmoil in Syria.

The troops will remain "until another arrangement is found that will ensure Israel's security," Netanyahu said atop Mount Hermon, which is divided between the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, Lebanon and Syria.

Israel entered the demilitarized buffer zone, to the east of the Golan Heights, earlier this month following the collapse of the Bashar al-Assad regime. Its capture of about 400 square kilometres of Syrian territory sparked accusations Israel was violating the 1974 UN-brokered ceasefire that established the zone, and that it was exploiting the chaos in its northeastern neighbour for a land grab.

Israel captured, and later annexed, the Golan Heights from Syria in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. Its claim on the region is only recognized by the U.S.

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz, appearing with Netanyahu, said he instructed the military to quickly establish a presence including fortifications, in anticipation of what could be an extended stay in the area.

The mountain's summit, the highest point in the area, will be "the eyes of the state of Israel to identify our enemies who are nearby and far away," Katz said.

An Israeli military official, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity in line with military regulations, said there is no plan to evacuate the Syrians living there from the zone.

This isn't the first time Israel has entered the buffer zone this year.

An AP report last month examining satellite imagery found that Israel had been working on a construction project, possibly a new road, close to Syria from as early as July, and had in some cases entered the zone during construction.

UN forces later warned that the Israeli military has committed "severe violations" of its ceasefire deal with Syria.

Airstrikes across Syria​

Israeli troops began moving into the buffer zone on Dec. 7, according to Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar; the same day unidentified armed men attacked UN forces in Syria.

"[The Israeli military] took targeted and temporary control of certain areas near the border to prevent an Oct. 7 scenario from Syria," Saar said at the time, referring to Hamas's surprise 2023 attack into Israel from the Gaza Strip.

That was followed by a wave of airstrikes inside Syria which hit more than 350 targets including anti-aircraft batteries, military airfields, weapons production sites, combat aircraft and missiles, the Israeli military said.

Israeli missiles also struck Syrian ports where 15 naval vessels were docked.

Israeli officials said the strikes across Syria were aimed at destroying strategic weapons and military infrastructure to prevent them being used by rebel groups that drove al-Assad from power, some of which grew from movements linked to al-Qaeda and Islamic State.

Netanyahu earlier described entering the buffer zone as a necessary and "temporary defensive position."

Regional condemnation​

A UN spokesman said Tuesday that the advance of Israeli troops, however long it lasts, violates the deal that set up the buffer zone.

That agreement "needs to be respected, and occupation is occupation, whether it lasts a week, a month or a year, it remains occupation," said Stephane Dujarric .

There was no immediate comment from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the insurgent group that led the ouster of al-Assad, or from Arab states.

Previously, Ahmad al-Sharaa — Syria's de facto leader and the head of the HTS — said Israel is using false pretexts to justify its attacks, but he made it clear he's not interested in engaging in new conflicts as the country focuses on rebuilding.

Others in the region condemned Israel's move into Syrian territory earlier this month. The Egyptian Foreign Ministry accused Israel of "exploiting the power vacuum… to occupy more Syrian territories and create a fait accompli in violation of international law."

Saudi Arabia separately criticized Israel for its "determination to undermine opportunities for Syria to restore its security, stability and territorial integrity."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-occupy-buffer-zone-syria-netanyahu-1.7413045
 
Also are there still some former government forces in Syria?
some professor in Israel says the leader of not-El-Kaide is the son of a modest grocer . Wikipedia says he was born in Riyadh , son of an exiled oil engineer/author/political activist father , his mother being a teacher . In the spirit of the times , he was in love with an Alawite girl in their teens . Turkish internet is discovering he is the nephew of the second man in Syria , Faruk El Şara , a Sunni , long time Foreign Minister of both Esads , full Turkish hater with support to the seperatists and New Turkey's candidate in 2012 to be head of state . True or false , can not be said as of now , but very likely , this family relationship . The older one apparently gave an interview on the 9th , to replicate whatever contacts Damascus has had since 1948 . Your former goverment forces will all end up in the Damascus State , which in Arabic doesn't sound that bad .

the Israeli professor naturally says the younger's fight with ISIL ran along the lines of Umeyyad in Sham and Abbasids in Iraq . While can be argued that it is relevant for ISIL to follow Abbasi language because of designs for global reach , the connection is nice preparation to claim Abbasids are bad , as much as the nomads that enpowered their initial uprising in Central Asia . Like nobody ever likes Turks ...

rome might be dead , in accordance with some thread currently active in Off Topic , but some of its competitors is very alive !
 
My initial comment was in line with the actors that have been deeply involved in Assad's Syria, yours wasn't.
Apparently no one can bring the obvious/fact checked Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia bad without you chiming in that one might be forgetting about Israel. Why?
Do the crimes of Israel make the the countries/terrorists organizations I just mentioned appear less evil/bad in your view? Why do you need to project the "hey but what about Israel" shtick?
I am very aware and I've repeated in this forum that Israel took 7/10 to justify an overkill war with serious crimes. Why do you need to rub in my face Israel is evil when I am addressing Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Russia?
Israel is the source of the bad. Colonial behavior writ large is the source of the bad. Muslim Arabs did not have this level of sectarianism until we(royal) brought it to them and drew lines reinforcing those divisions.

Assad is a symptom. We are the disease. (fwiw the US has been doing terrible things in Syria for decades and its only getting worse as far as I can tell)
 
Israel is the source of the bad. Colonial behavior writ large is the source of the bad. Muslim Arabs did not have this level of sectarianism until we(royal) brought it to them and drew lines reinforcing those divisions.

Assad is a symptom. We are the disease. (fwiw the US has been doing terrible things in Syria for decades and its only getting worse as far as I can tell)
It's ME
It was complex here since biblian times
 
Husband Loses Country; Wife Seeks Divorce. News at 11


The British wife of Syria’s deposed president Bashar al-Assad, Asma al-Assad, has filed for divorce after expressing dissatisfaction with her life in Moscow, Turkish and Arab media reported Sunday. She reportedly seeks to move to London.

Asma applied to the Russian court and requested special permission to leave Moscow. Her application is reportedly currently being evaluated by Russian authorities.

Asma is a dual British-Syrian national who was born and raised in London by Syrian parents, the BBC reported. Asma moved to Syria in 2000 and married Assad in the same year at the age of 25.
 
Leaving Moscow doesn't require court permission unless she is under investigation or something. She might apply to Russian court to get divorce though.
As far as I remember, she was getting cancer treatment in Moscow.
 
the very same sources used to claim her husband ran with 135 billion dollars . If lack of standart is going to be claimed ... She is not British . She is a Syrian Sunni with a British passport . She is a "threat" to "plurarity in the newly liberated Syria" . She goes to London ? Turned over to Damascus in a day .
 
Leaving Moscow doesn't require court permission unless she is under investigation or something.
For the average Russian, that seems reasonable. Assad isn't your average Russian. Security concerns (to protect him and his family), it's possible restrictions are in place or for other possible reasons as a condition for giving him safe haven in Russia. Not to say Russians are required to put such restrictions on him (and his family) or it's a common practice, but it's plausible.

As far as I remember, she was getting cancer treatment in Moscow.
That was 5-6 years ago.
She might apply to Russian court to get divorce though.
Her family says she isn't divorcing him. I put more weight into that denial than denial from the Russian government. Of course they could be lying for a variety of reasons, but I'll trust the family unless more evidence comes to light.
She is not British
She is a British citizen. Not welcome to return, apparently. They should just remove her citizenship if they are serious about it.
 
she looks Western . More Western at least , when compared to burkas and towels making a comeback . She is a danger to that . Simple terms and stuff when echo chambers want simple , easy to grasp bulletpoints to enforce . This specific attack ? No doubt already replaced by some other thing . Russians will discover they were cheated again anyhow .
 
Yes, im aware of those treatments, it was one of the reasons she allegedly wanted to leave Moscow for London (as she perceived she would get better treatment in London-i have no idea what is involved in those treatments, so have no idea if it would be better, and sometimes perceptions arent based in reality)
 
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