Minor requests and questions thread
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A Golden Dragon
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could be, and your explanation well, i understand if it was about removing souls and negative presences. But to actually remove the ruïnes, it seems unlogical to use life mana. so far lore wise.
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because razing a City gives + 1 to the Armargedon Coounter and Sanctivy is the way to remove this (At last as fare I know it).
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Exactly what Schwarzbart said. Razing a city adds 1 to the AC, sanctifying it drops the AC. Very good trick if you're at war....
KrugSmash
Warlord
Unfortunately with sanctify being the only way to remove them, my mechanos game was made a bit more difficult. I ended up just planting a unit on each one for the 60 turns it takes to change. In the hell-land surrounding bradeline's well on the sheaim's continent, this meant a lot of guys just sitting around doing nothing.
Also adding to the difficulty was this big patch of hell land constantly spawning demons. Instead of moving my powerful army along to the next nation, I had to leave a lot of my bigger units like grenadiers and steam tanks and gryphon knights spread out around this patch to kill off the demon beast masters and death knights that would keep spawning, for the 100 or so turns it took the hell land to recede.
Also adding to the difficulty was this big patch of hell land constantly spawning demons. Instead of moving my powerful army along to the next nation, I had to leave a lot of my bigger units like grenadiers and steam tanks and gryphon knights spread out around this patch to kill off the demon beast masters and death knights that would keep spawning, for the 100 or so turns it took the hell land to recede.
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
In FFPlus, I gave Adeptus/Techpriests access to a few more spells... And moved them all to require one of the four mana node techs. Makes them more useful, as you can get the likes of Spring and Sanctify from them.
KrugSmash
Warlord
That would be quite nice.
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A Golden Dragon
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Regenerate map seems to be included in the next FfH patch
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Opera
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Okay, so... I've been playing my first Mechanos game since a long time... Didn't get far for now but, according to the pedia, I've already built every unique building and I'm not even finished with mid-game.
As they don't use mana, I don't think they should get some from their palace. Replace Enchantment with +1 happy on each city of this continent (or globally if you want... I just think +1 just on the continent is enough). Earth mana passive effect will perfectly be replaced by Refined mana one. They will have to wait to get it, though... But they start with copper, so it's fine.
I say, give them an Alchemy Lab replacement; +25%
with power.
As we're talking about commerces modified by power, what about a Concert Hall replacing Theatre? +40%
with power? Among other bonuses, mainly those of bland theatres.
Of course, this would require actually creating the PowerCommerceModifiers
Still about power, I think a Power Plant should require a Factory. It feels really good to gain access to power but, I don't know, I feel like it should come more slowly: first a Factory, then a Power Plant.
Two other building ideas:
1) Steam Transportation Network, a sort of public transportation using steam-powered vehicles +1
, +1
(like in BTS), +10%
?
2) Nefport: an aeroport for zeppelins and such. Can Airlift X units per turn.
... And that's all for now!
As they don't use mana, I don't think they should get some from their palace. Replace Enchantment with +1 happy on each city of this continent (or globally if you want... I just think +1 just on the continent is enough). Earth mana passive effect will perfectly be replaced by Refined mana one. They will have to wait to get it, though... But they start with copper, so it's fine.
I say, give them an Alchemy Lab replacement; +25%
with power.As we're talking about commerces modified by power, what about a Concert Hall replacing Theatre? +40%
with power? Among other bonuses, mainly those of bland theatres.Of course, this would require actually creating the PowerCommerceModifiers
Still about power, I think a Power Plant should require a Factory. It feels really good to gain access to power but, I don't know, I feel like it should come more slowly: first a Factory, then a Power Plant.
Two other building ideas:
1) Steam Transportation Network, a sort of public transportation using steam-powered vehicles
+1, +1 (like in BTS), +10%?2) Nefport: an aeroport for zeppelins and such. Can Airlift X units per turn.
... And that's all for now!
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Just wanted to say... I love those ideas. 
KrugSmash
Warlord
As for the enchantment mana, why they get that may have something to do with the Caminus Aureus wonder(1mithril, weaponsmith in every city) requiring enchantment mana to build. I never would have guessed why they got that particular mana, but I'd traded it out early in the game and then had to wonder why I couldn't build that thing...
Of course rather than keeping that mana it may make more sense to alter and tone down that seriously powerful wonder.
Opera
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I still think Caminus Aureus shouldn't give Mithril
Anyway, I had some more ideas about the mechanos:
A new damage type, Power; it would have a chance to cause a Shocked promotion on units, making them unable to heal and lose 2
points.
Some Mechanos units would start with Power damage but mainly, it would be tied to a 'mithril replacement', needing a building to auto-apply a +2 Power damage prom to units built in the city, NOT replacing Iron Weapons;
(but no access to Mithril, as it's more magical than other metals)
I would also like it if there was a Train unit (national limit: 4) with 4 moves, 6 cargo and which would require railroad to move and Iron to be built. Would be necessary to teach the AI how to use it though.
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Also, ideas for a reworked affinity system: instead of just increasing strength, make it so affinity can give promotions; say, set it so promotion X needs a affinity to fire to 1 so be gained. 'Affinity to fire' would need another promo to be activated on the unit, or may be part of it. So you'd see something like Chalid, 2 fire affinity; it won't mean he will gain 2 strength for each fire mana you own. Instead, it will mean his affinity to fire will go up by 2 points for each fire mana you own; and the total of points will determine what 'affinity-promo' the unit will gain
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Had an idea about reworking the technology trading system...
Currently, once you know one certain tech, you can trade techs with other people (ie, with Writing). What I would like to is to set it so you'd need some specific techs before trading some others. For example, Education would allow trading of Arcane Lore... while Writing would only allow you to trade, say, KotE.
But the main idea would be to set a 'leak ratio' so that if you are in contact with another civ which know a certain tech, you will progressively gain beakers towards it even without researching it. This ratio would depend on the tech but also on how you interact with said civ. The more trade routes, the stronger the ratio; but war won't let you gain anything. Spying might also become handy to get techs...
(One idea could be to then remove tech trading completely)
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An idea linked to this would be to make Steam Power leak. It would like very slowly so that a non-Mechanos civ would pop it only during Renaissance or so.
I know, this may sound wrong as it is Mechanos' unique tech and that FFH has a tradition of preserving uniqueness as much as possible. But my idea here is to allow the FFH world to transition to a steampunk technology through the Renaissance, gaining access to trains, zeppelins and such in late game, a way to, maybe, spice things up.
Mechanos would still be unique enough because they would have it since a long time already and the other civs wouldn't have all the unique things of the Mechanos (like, no refined mana).
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And that's it for idea time!
Anyway, I had some more ideas about the mechanos:
A new damage type, Power; it would have a chance to cause a Shocked promotion on units, making them unable to heal and lose 2
points.Some Mechanos units would start with Power damage but mainly, it would be tied to a 'mithril replacement', needing a building to auto-apply a +2 Power damage prom to units built in the city, NOT replacing Iron Weapons;
(but no access to Mithril, as it's more magical than other metals)
I would also like it if there was a Train unit (national limit: 4) with 4 moves, 6 cargo and which would require railroad to move and Iron to be built. Would be necessary to teach the AI how to use it though.
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Also, ideas for a reworked affinity system: instead of just increasing strength, make it so affinity can give promotions; say, set it so promotion X needs a affinity to fire to 1 so be gained. 'Affinity to fire' would need another promo to be activated on the unit, or may be part of it. So you'd see something like Chalid, 2 fire affinity; it won't mean he will gain 2 strength for each fire mana you own. Instead, it will mean his affinity to fire will go up by 2 points for each fire mana you own; and the total of points will determine what 'affinity-promo' the unit will gain
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Had an idea about reworking the technology trading system...
Currently, once you know one certain tech, you can trade techs with other people (ie, with Writing). What I would like to is to set it so you'd need some specific techs before trading some others. For example, Education would allow trading of Arcane Lore... while Writing would only allow you to trade, say, KotE.
But the main idea would be to set a 'leak ratio' so that if you are in contact with another civ which know a certain tech, you will progressively gain beakers towards it even without researching it. This ratio would depend on the tech but also on how you interact with said civ. The more trade routes, the stronger the ratio; but war won't let you gain anything. Spying might also become handy to get techs...
(One idea could be to then remove tech trading completely)
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An idea linked to this would be to make Steam Power leak. It would like very slowly so that a non-Mechanos civ would pop it only during Renaissance or so.
I know, this may sound wrong as it is Mechanos' unique tech and that FFH has a tradition of preserving uniqueness as much as possible. But my idea here is to allow the FFH world to transition to a steampunk technology through the Renaissance, gaining access to trains, zeppelins and such in late game, a way to, maybe, spice things up.
Mechanos would still be unique enough because they would have it since a long time already and the other civs wouldn't have all the unique things of the Mechanos (like, no refined mana).
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And that's it for idea time!
Really nice ideas for Mechanos Opera but do you feel that they are underpowered? or are the ideas just for flavour? Personally, i can steam roll just about every other race (apart from the damn elves) with the Mechanos due to thier early access to Bronze and strong production. Giving them more military power might require a major rebalance....
