Minority Report (heads up, possible SPOILER)

[Genuis]

I just saw this movie... it's awesome. I normally don't listen to the reviewer in my local paper (Chris Hewitt, St Paul Pioneer Press) but this time he and I agreed - Minority Report is pretty sweet. Best movie to come out this year. Yes it is better than Star Wars even if all you want is pure entertainment.

A few things I don't get, if you've seen it:

Why didn't John Anderton/Tom Cruise go blind when he took off the bandage to let the spiders scan him? He still had 6 hours left on the timer unless I'm mistaken.

Was there any "minority report" for any of the murders? Like when the old man (I forgot his name, the bad guy) drowned Agatha's mother, the minority report was him drowning her dressed as the man who they arrested, so it was what actually happened..? I'm probably confusing you but if you know what I mean...

Well anyway see it if you haven't. And if you've read this far and you haven't seen it, I WARNED YOU!!!

 

[amadeus]

It's okay even if you did warn me. I hate Tom Cruise.

 

[Genuis]

He's actually good in this one.

BTW rmsharpe where in MN do you live? I'm in Stillwater.

 

[amadeus]

Cambridge.

 

[Xeven the God]

I saw the previews. Looks sweet ass. I'll probably see it in a couple of days.

Btw, I live in Minnesota too! Red Wing .

 

[amadeus]

Seems like we've got the most Minnesotans per capita...

Me, allan, Xeven, Genius...and I'm sure there's others.

Bow down before our awesome (future*) nation!

* there's actually a "terrorist" organization in Minnesota that believes we should be our own nation. As Dave Barry would say, I'm not making this up.

 

[Richard III]

Just got back home from seeing it a few minutes ago. Probably the best Spielberg has ever made. There's a forgivable flaw here and there, but otherwise very well paced, well acted, well produced, well shot...

Originally posted by Genuis
Why didn't John Anderton/Tom Cruise go blind when he took off the bandage to let the spiders scan him? He still had 6 hours left on the timer unless I'm mistaken.

Was there any "minority report" for any of the murders? Like when the old man (I forgot his name, the bad guy) drowned Agatha's mother, the minority report was him drowning her dressed as the man who they arrested, so it was what actually happened..? I'm probably confusing you but if you know what I mean...

As for (a) he only took it off of one eye.

As for (b), the second shot wasn't actually a minority report: as I understand it, the three of them all saw the second one take place, but it was set up to look like the first, and so was scrubbed instead of processed and given a little ball.

Other than a weak final minute, my only complaint was wondering if it was logistically possible to actually set up Anderton the way he was set up. Think that through, and you'll see what I mean, since Lamar had absolutely no guarantee that Anderton would ever meet the fellow in question...

Still, , and what's interesting is that the movie was engrossing enough that I didn't think of that minor complaint until a good hour after it was over.

R.III

 

[Thuloid]

I was born in Park Rapids.

 

[Genuis]

Lamar had absolutely no guarantee that Anderton would ever meet the fellow in question...

I see your point. It did seem like a lot of coincidences led to him meeting Crow or whatever, but in the end it didn't matter because the precogs' visions were not exactly right. But, hey, all great movies are based on unrealistic premises and hokey coincidences right? It's forgivable.

Bow down before our awesome (future*) nation!

Hail Minnesota!

 

[Apollo]

Originally posted by Genuis
Hail Minnesota!

and I hear you get a lot of snow there too

I thought the movie was okay, even if it did cost 25 cents more than a movie at the same time a week before (stupid inflation...). It wasn't that solid of a plot but it was entertaining, and some scenes made it worth seeing in the theater, like when he jumps on top of the car and then it goes over the edge.

 

[BlueMonday]

That was a great movie, probably the best yet this summer and the definitely the best sci-fiction movie made in years.

 

[Mechanical_Animal]

Lamar had absolutely no guarantee that Anderton would ever meet the fellow in question...

Anderton never needs to meet the man he is supposed to kill because with the system working correctly, he is arrested before he can kill him.

Since he escapes though, his knowledge of what the pre cogs saw and having one with him enables him to find the man . Anderton is supposed to believe that the man abducted his son and then kills him, which the pre cogs see and have him arrested for before he does it.

If anyone else can explain it better, go for it.

 

[Richard III]

Originally posted by Mechanical_Animal
Anderton is supposed to believe that the man abducted his son and then kills him, which the pre cogs see and have him arrested for before he does it.

Look, I still think it's a great movie, but if you think about what you just wrote, you'll see it's a lot like a classic Time Travel paradox.

Step 1) Lamar pays off the guy
Step 2) Pre-cogs see Anderton find/kill guy with precog there
Step 3) Anderton is indicted for premeditated premurder
Step 4) Anderton goes on the trail and finds fellow, kills him

Don't you see how the leap from 1 to 2 is a little, well, forced? For Lamar to set that up, remember, at some point Anderton has to meet the fellow and get into his apartment - it's a premeditated murder based on the setup. So all Lamar has to do to set that course of events in action is to just to put Crow up in the room and tell him to wait, and presume that somehow, in a city of a million people, that Anderton's just going to pop into his apartment someday?

Remember that the precogs don't just predict likely outcomes; they predict things that actually happen, exactly as predicted, exactly when predicted. Lamar would have had to have been beyond a genuis to have organized everything with that one step. All it would have needed was a step two - a phone call with the apartment number, for example - to make any sense.

But like I said, no big deal; it hasn't spoiled it at all.

R.III

 

[newfangle]

We don't have movie theaters in Canada, so I didn't see it.