MLDR006 Attack of the PC Crowd

[ThERat]

I saw ThERat's suggestion for the new city. However, I will not place it. That city claims ZERO new squares. All of the squares will be claimed after border expansion.

I did that to decrease unit cost, maybe I got used to close city placements in my recent SG's. different style of play

I start pulling the horses back

funny part was that Maya had a musket but no salt before I traded them. They must have gotten that from another source. I merely left the horses there for blocking and to monitor the amount of units passing.

 

[el_filet]

i can get it tonight, but won't be able to play. will probably have to wait until saturday. so if NP can play, suggest a swap.

 

[Northern Pike]

OK, I think I'll be able to play a round tomorrow.

 

[Northern Pike]

550 AD, end of turn

 

[Northern Pike]

450 (0): I switch San Francisco to building a worker, since it's stuck at size six with a full food box, then make the same change in Buffalo for the same reason.

Boston bank --> musketman, Avaris worker --> worker, Detroit temple --> marketplace.

The source of saltpetre under Hieraconpolis runs out. We have another, but it's committed to the Maya.


460 (1): SF worker --> marketplace, Buffalo worker --> aqueduct.

We get a palace expansion.


470 (2): The Japanese have Physics. We can't afford it, of course.


480 (3): Avaris worker --> worker.


490 (4): Washington musketman --> pikeman.

The Arabs complete Magellan.


500 (5): Boston musketman --> pikeman, Seattle temple --> marketplace.

The Arabs are building Adam Smith.


510 (6): The Arabs and the Japanese now both have Economics and Physics. I think I'll wait on any deals until we're eligible to re-sell our horses to the Arabs, though.

Washington pikeman --> pikeman.

The Maya complete Bach.


520 (7): Atlanta marketplace --> bank.


530 (8): Washington pikeman --> pikeman, Boston pikeman --> pikeman.

The Arabs complete Adam Smith.


540 (9): 87 gpt and horses (valued at 44 gpt) to the Arabs for Physics. Physics and 13gpt to the Babylonians for Economics, furs, and wines, so we renew our Babylonian luxuries for another twenty turns. Physics and Economics to the Maya for Metallurgy, 28 gpt, and 7 gold, so we're now getting more money from the Maya than before despite having reclaimed our saltpetre.

New Orleans temple --> marketplace, Avaris worker --> worker.

A jungle burn outside Philadelphia reveals BG.

The Japanese complete Shakespeare and Newton.


550 (10): The Japanese are in the Industrial Age.

 

[Northern Pike]

A couple of trade possibilities are still on the table. We could send the Greeks Physics for incense and chump change, although I'm not inclined to help them when we don't need the extra luxury. And we can afford to buy Military Tradition, if we don't mind the lack of a twofer. If we're incredibly lucky, the Greeks might get MT before Physics.

Avaris can produce a worker almost every third turn, even without a granary, provided the necessary fiddling is done.

The highest priority for our workers should be to clear the remaining jungles and marshes around Philadelphia, Seattle, and SF.

The Mayan-Greek war is still being fought, though the front hasn't moved.

 

[Northern Pike]

Slow development:

 

[LKendter]

The Mayan-Greek war is still being fought, though the front hasn't moved.

This is the type of AI war I love.
I was seeing the same thing during my turns. Stacks of longbows killing each other. All those shields down the drain while we quitely improve our position.


Signed up:
Meldor (currently playing)
ThERat (on deck)
LKendter
el_filet
Northern Pike

 

[meldor]

Turn order from Lee is incorrect, it should be...

Signed up:
Meldor (On Deck)
ThERat
LKendter
el_filet (currently playing)
Northern Pike (sawpped)

 

[LKendter]

Turn order from Lee is incorrect, it should be...

Well I tried to be helpful...

 

[meldor]

No problem, I didn't mark them as swapped...

 

[el_filet]

i got it
unexpected visitors came by, not sure i can play today

 

[el_filet]

550 AD (0):
hate to see a city like SF not growing, so rush a duct
switch detroit to court
we'll have to rely on conquest to dominate the world, with 1/5 the culture of most opps, less then 1/6 of mayas, the culture leader
our army is weak to everybody, but with the ongoing war, i will build some infra in most towns

IBT:
SF: duct->market

560 AD (1):
greeks got MT&physics, babs have both too. will wait for more civs to have ToG.

IBT:
spot AC on the island
hierancompolis: temple->harbor

570 AD (2):
embassy in kyoto: size 12, 16 spt building cav; 6 muskets, pike, archer, 2 cannons; salt, iron, horses, 4 lux; all buildings
in mecca: size 12, 30 gpt building musket; 7 reg muskets, 2 cav; same 3 rec+4 lux; all buildings except uni

IBT:
trade WM with arabs for 43g
they galley i moved out so i wont forget it is sunk by pirateer (japan)
washington: musket->musket
philly: bank->granary
quakertown: bank->musket
avaris: worker->worker

IBT:
greeks lose some knights on abydos
boston: musket->granary
detroit: court->duct

590 AD (4):
babs got ToG
embassy shows: size 10, 15spt for cath; 10 muskets (2 reg); the 3 strat+5 lux; all buildings
buy ToG from them for WM, 122gpt+18g
get MT from greeks for ToG, WM and 383g
upgrade to cavs

IBT:
rome&mayas sign peace

IBT:
NY: bank->musket
avaris: worker->worker

610 AD (6):
declare on greeks

IBT:
lose cav&warrior
washington: musket->musket

620 AD (7):
kill hoplite&cav
found Cincinnati->harbor
capture rhodes->temple
merge worker
retreat on elephantine

IBT:
babs&mayas sign peace
japan&greeks sign trade embargo
kill cav, lose warrior after retreatig knight

IBT:
lose musket
lose asyut because i thought marsh need 3 movement
washington riots due to WW, move forward
boston: granary->cav
philly: bank->musket
atlanta: bank->rax
avaris: worker->worker
buffalo: duct->granary

640 AD (9):
recapture asyut->temple
up lux to fight WW

IBT:
trade cavs
byblos: temple->court
baltimore riots

650 AD (10):
rush walls in asyut


notes:
upgraded some horses, disbanded conscript warriors
we should consider switching some towns to court and rush
2 slaves moving toward rhodes

 

[LKendter]

Not quite sure why we started a war with Greece. Last time I looked at the game our military was pretty pathetic.

 

[LKendter]

Now that I have loaded the game I really wonder why we started the Greek war. 6 cavalry, 1 knight and 1 horseman aren't exactly a quality attack force. Especially when we have so few defenders and no landing reserves. A lone warrior behind our lines could raze Washington!

Japan has at least 3 decent offensive units on the iron island. Can we please get a new galley build so that we can ship troops over there.

 

[meldor]

Looks like a major feast for me. I see it and it is in the queue...

Signed up:
Meldor (Playing)
ThERat (On Deck)
LKendter
el_filet
Northern Pike

 

[ThERat]

end the war asap I would suggest, we have no support for this. If the Greeks come swarming into our land, we are in trouble. if they sign others like Japan we are doomed.

Agree with LK, I would have not started it as well. maybe with 20+ Cavs, yes

 

[el_filet]

A lone warrior behind our lines could raze Washington!

muskets in core are finished soon, i don't see any danger here. i'm more concerned about the islands, as you pointed out too.

i didn't like to start this war, but rhodes was putting heavy pressure on our cities. my objectives were rhodes and elephantine. our army should be good enough to take this two. my failure to capture elephantine makes it look bad, but we can't say how long the war between mayas and greeks will go on, didn't want to miss the opportunity.

 

[meldor]

650 AD (0)
Swap Byblos to a Rax, it can build a court later. Swap Boston to a Caravel. Also swap New Orleans to a musket and Detriot to a Rax so I can upgrade the units on the island, we need one on the island. I rush the musket in New Orleans, I am too nervous about losing our iron. We still need it for rails. I wake up a Cav and kill off an injured Greek Cav.
(I) Our Cav gets killed by a Crusader. A greek galley turns up off the island. Interestingly, it is coming from the east. Asyut walls->Rax, Detriot Rax->Musket, New Orleans Musket->Market

660 AD (1)
Kill the offending Greek Crusader with elite horse, no luck. Upgrade the pike in Detriot to a musket and move the warrior from New Orleans to Detriot to upgrade.
(I) One Greek Cav appears. Washington and New York Musket->Musket, Atlanta Rax->Cav, Quakertown Musket->Temple, Avaris Worker->Worker.

670 AD (2)
Upgrade warrior to MDI on the island. I think the island is in better shape now. I can only jion in one Greek worker at this time, otherwise the city will starve and we can't have that at all. The second Greek worker is given vacation until such time as the city will except them. Kill the Greek CAv but I can't cover our Cav. This is a losing bet.
(I) We lose our Cav and more Greek units show up. They also land a sword and archer on the island, good thing I went military there. I am going to have to go heavy military at the wrong time. Boston Caravel->Cav.

680 AD (3)
We lose the MDI but the musket takes out the sword and promotes. We then lose a Cav but take out a Hopilite. The Greeks will now talk and we take peace straight up. We needed that. I swap Atlanta and Aysut to non-military builds. I will let the muskets complete so we have some in the front line cities.
(I) Avaris Worker->Worker, Baltimore Harbor->Temple. We get a palace expansion.

690 AD (4)
I join the last Greek worker into Rhodes as the resistance ends. I then rush the Temple.
(I)Philly Musket->Temple, San Fran Market->Bank, Rhodes Temple->Library

700 AD (5)
(I)Rome and Japan ally against Maya. Washington Musket->Harbor,

710 AD (6)
(I)Maya and Japan make happy. Arabia and Greece sign an MPP!!! Avaris Worker->Temple

720 AD (7)
(I) New York Musket->Library, Detriot Musket->Musket

730 AD (8)
(I) This isn't good, the Japanese move into our lands on the island. Buffalo Granary->Temple, Denver Temple->Courthouse,

750 AD (9)
To keep the Japanese honest, we buy Magnetism for 830g and 81gpt. It is cheap, but I sell Mag to Maya for 23gpt. We are only down Democracy (due in 10) and Nationalism.
(I)Japan demand 17g, will he really throw away 81gpt for 17g? Yes. We lose a musket, but they lose a longbow and the AC redlines.We lose our furs and wines. It costs us 21gpt for the furs but I refuse to pay 30gpt for wines. Boston Harbor->Cav, Byblos Rax->Market, Philly Temple->Library, Atlanta Colosseum->Cav. We get another palace expansion.

250 AD (10)
Start moving the fast units down towards the caravel to take the rest of the island.

When we finish Democracy, Steam is next up. I think we have a good shot at ToE.

The object for th eJapanese war should be to get the reast of the island. That should be doable and we got most of a tech for free.

 

[Northern Pike]

Nice play.

I think we have a good shot at ToE.

We can delay the revolt to democracy until we've gotten ToE, can't we?