[MOD] Fall from Heaven II

[JDexter]

In one of the next phases (shadow or ice) they announced an inventory and item system, as well as quests. So this is already planned albeit being a great idea.

 

[miracle]

may be it was already posted...

But when unit with 'Prophecy of Ragnarok' promotion is disbanded (not killed) armageddon counter does not drop down.
So it is easy way to have high armageddown counted without a way to drop it down...

EDIT: also it is not dropped down if Thane with it spread (or fail to spread) religion in enemy city...

 

[Broken Hawk]

I have the Holy Cities for RoK (state religion), FoL and the Order. I am able to build the Tablets of Bambur and the Code of Junil but not the Song of Autumn. When the screen for a Great Prophet pops up the ghosted out button for Song of Autumn does not appear. What is going on? Is there a tech I do not have access to because FoL is not my state religion? I searched the Pedia to no avail.

Thanks.

 

[Love]

I think that you need a great bard to build that, and a great sage to build infernal grimoure...

 

[x 77 x]

In one of the next phases (shadow or ice) they announced an inventory and item system, as well as quests. So this is already planned albeit being a great idea.

Does this mean more "magic weapons" like Orthus' Axe? It would be cool to have more magic weapons that are created when Heroes are built. Cool bonus for defeating diffferent Civ's Heroes.

Bow for the Elves gives first strike chances, Mithril Armor on a Dwarf Hero that gives bonus to defense, etc...

 

[thealien_83]

I think that you need a great bard to build that, and a great sage to build infernal grimoure...

Infernal Grimoire isn't one of the religion wonders though, it just gives you a free tech unless my memory is screwing with me or they changed it recently. Also used to spawn an angry Balor next to your city as I recall.

The Ashen Veil holy wonder is called.. What is it called? Stigmata of the Unborn or something?

Either way it requires a Great Sage, not a Great Prophet, yeah. Maybe a Great Engineer would be reasonable for the Tablets. What do I know. On the other hand might be a bit harsh since Engineers usually come into play a little later than the other types of GP's.

Anyhew, ramble ramble

 

[Kael]

Does this mean more "magic weapons" like Orthus' Axe? It would be cool to have more magic weapons that are created when Heroes are built. Cool bonus for defeating diffferent Civ's Heroes.

Bow for the Elves gives first strike chances, Mithril Armor on a Dwarf Hero that gives bonus to defense, etc...

We havent implemented it yet, so I dont know specifics. But at this point we are only considering adding "relics", powerful items with significant effects (like Orthus's Axe). We talked about adding mundane items (armor, bows, swords, etc) but I think that is just going to increase the complexity without any real benefit. It would also make the other relics seem less special if we had common items bouncing around too.

 

[x 77 x]

We havent implemented it yet, so I dont know specifics. But at this point we are only considering adding "relics", powerful items with significant effects (like Orthus's Axe). We talked about adding mundane items (armor, bows, swords, etc) but I think that is just going to increase the complexity without any real benefit. It would also make the other relics seem less special if we had common items bouncing around too.

Awesome! Yeah, I was talking about special one-of-a-kind artifacts, not profilic mundane items.

 

[Love]

Maybe great people can make some to...

 

[Great Oleander]

I got a problem (v.21c) playing as the sheaim (highlands, 18players, large map):
When I got the "Infernal pact"-tech I got an python error message:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/94207/Civ4ScreenShot0000.JPG

Could it be that it is not possible to summon hyborem with 18 players? should there be a free slot for him?

... problem solved, I tried a 16 player game (with lots of Great Sages and Great Prophets rushing for infernal pact) and it worked summonig hyborem.

sorry for that post

 

[Janos Antero]

I have the Holy Cities for RoK (state religion), FoL and the Order. I am able to build the Tablets of Bambur and the Code of Junil but not the Song of Autumn. When the screen for a Great Prophet pops up the ghosted out button for Song of Autumn does not appear. What is going on? Is there a tech I do not have access to because FoL is not my state religion? I searched the Pedia to no avail.

Thanks.

I've had the same error in two games as well, both with FoL.

 

[grumpylad]

I've had the same error in two games as well, both with FoL.

You can create using a Great Artist not a Prophet

 

[seamus75]

Hello,

I have a question regarding limited building and wonder creation based on your civilization. I understand that there are certain buildings only available to certain civs - ie: grigori tavern obviously only for grigori. But playing as a few other civs I was unble to build other non-specialized buildings.

Playing as Cassiel I was unable to build the Caminus blah blah blah (?) the one that grants a free weaponsmith.

As Os-Gabella I was unable to build training grounds & was basically stuck with Pyre Zombies as my most powerful unit.

There was also something I was unable to build as Thessa, but cannot recall what.

Conversely, I noticed that playing as the Doviello & the Clan I need not build a mage guild to create adepts.

I checked the pedia to see if there was a note saying that these buildings were "not available to your civ" respectively but there were none.

Perhaps it's a lacking resource, but I don't think so. Anyhow - any thoughts?

Thanks,
Seamus

 

[JDexter]

The Sheaim cannot build better melee units, they appear when you build a certain structure (forgot the name, something like dimensional gate, but that's the teleporting one I believe) and have other buildings (ie public baths, temple of AV...) that attract certain unit types. They don't need Training Grounds for anything/cannot build them since they are a magical civ, not a melee oriented.

There are more examples like that (Khazad can have no mages, evil civs no paladins & druids, etc.) which you can find in the patch notes/Fire preview post/FfH Wiki/FfH Civpedia when you look at the civs/buildings in concern.

 

[seamus75]

Hello,

thanks for the heads up about the wiki, patch notes, and preview post. As far as the civpedia is concerned they do not show up as unbuildable (the examples I gave atleast) - that was the point of the post.

Thanks,
Shannon

 

[miracle]

Conversely, I noticed that playing as the Doviello & the Clan I need not build a mage guild to create adepts.

It's just because they can't build libraries or Mage Guilds. So their adepts (shamans) does not require any building. But absent libraries are disadvantage, nevertheless

 

[miracle]

thanks for the heads up about the wiki, patch notes, and preview post. As far as the civpedia is concerned they do not show up as unbuildable (the examples I gave atleast) - that was the point of the post.

Yes, it is not always synchronized with code, so there can be differences between 'reality' and civilopedia...

 

[Anaztazioch]

seamus75 you remind me a thing i wanted to report few times allready.

Khazad can build Command post, and other civs like Sheiam, Doviello, Ljosfaltar, Carbim (vampires) cannot. I mean Khazad dont need great commander to build this one. I think Sabathiel can build command post, but Carpia cannot (or i forgot to resarch Mil. Strategy as Sabathiel).

And im a bit annoyed that i cannot build Mercurian Gate as Hyborem . Thing that annoys me is that AI usually build Mercurian Gate at its BEST city, whitch is next to capital usually.

Anyway, what i wanted to ask now, will there be a convertation to CIV4 XP2 that is meant to be release in July ?

 

[thealien_83]

seamus75 you remind me a thing i wanted to report few times allready.

Khazad can build Command post, and other civs like Sheiam, Doviello, Ljosfaltar, Carbim (vampires) cannot. I mean Khazad dont need great commander to build this one. I think Sabathiel can build command post, but Carpia cannot (or i forgot to resarch Mil. Strategy as Sabathiel).

And im a bit annoyed that i cannot build Mercurian Gate as Hyborem . Thing that annoys me is that AI usually build Mercurian Gate at its BEST city, whitch is next to capital usually.

Anyway, what i wanted to ask now, will there be a convertation to CIV4 XP2 that is meant to be release in July ?

Organized leaders (Valledia the Even [Amurites], Arturus Thorne [Khazad], Flauros [Calabim], Sabathiel [Bannor] among others) can build Command Posts without a Great Commander, others cannot. So both the Calabim and Khazad can, but not if you aren't using the "right" leader for it.

 

[Kael]

Anyway, what i wanted to ask now, will there be a convertation to CIV4 XP2 that is meant to be release in July ?

Yes, FfH2 will be converted to the BtS codeset.