Los Tirano said:
Hmmm. You can always rename it the 'British Empire' yourself before every game.
@Houman, since we have been talking about english longbowmen, id like to put forward the idea that they deserve a 10% bonus vs knights because of their historical victories.
Three reasons for this
1) The victory of longbowmen over mounted knights at the battle of Crécy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crécy,
and the battle of Agincourt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Agincourt. History proves they were a force to be reckoned with for knights.
2) It is only a minor addition, that will add flavour and not upset the game mechanics.
3) Those legions of players that complain about knight rushes will be able to play a side that has an extra little advantage. Especially if they want to fight a defensive war.
Hope you think its a good idea. Bye.
English Longowman arrow has 137 J if i remember correctly. And they were made of iron. At the end its efect against 3mm steel plate is nothing(at elast Polish Hussars had that armor thickness, avarage is 2mm or 2.5mm). The iron arrow "pike" was breking when meeting steal. Still unarmored horses were killed uber fast whith their rain of arrows makin heavy armored troops run all that distance - suicide.
Im In a brotherhood - we do scrims whith wooden weapons, or shows whith real sharpened weapons and thus we got paid. Some of us, the most skillfull and best equiped take place in recreation of historican battles, like we had battle under Grunevald in July. Some guys end whith small injuries as weapons do damage, even not sharpened swords. I some shows we also use ranged weapons - we used crossbow whith iron bolt vs steal brest plate, the belt will do no damage as its iron is too weak, and brest plate round shape makes it difficult to pirce. We also showed longbow whith steal "pike" (god hate forgetting words) vs steal Flat plate shooting from range of 40 meters(60 feet or something, not sure). Only pike pirced, the leather clothing knight have under plate is made to protect from that kind of thing. But remember it was FLAT plate, armor is not Flat. In other words, steel plate was perfect armor vs ranged combat. Only heavy crossbow whith steel bolt was able to pirce and wound/kill knight at range of 120 metres whitch like 26 seconds of charge whith Steel armor on foot and 4 seconds of mounted charge.
Must say we havent tried English longbow - but i dubt its any better. And as for full plate armor - its REALLY HEAVY. Im 170cm height and my armor(3mm breast plate, 2,5mm pauldrons, 2mm greaves and arm plates, 1,5mm gauntlets, 2mm boots) made of steel has 30+kg weight. Helmet it self(4mm skull, 3mm face) has weight of 6kg. So its really tireing to run whith it on, making me think that fullplate was used only for turnaments and mopunted cavallary, as hour of wearing this can makes me tired, not to mention hour of fighting and running.
Really, to know how weapons and armor works - use it not read about it. U will know that longsword will never cut or chop chain mail, will ony break ur ribs and other bones, but Thurst shall pirce and kill you, even daggers thurst. Plate was made to protect from bludging weapons such as clubs, quaterstaff, butthead attacks(Zidane's vs Materazzi), hammer, flail - flails are really hard to use in battle, they are not meant to hit, but to cain around enemy wirst and disarm, but if the iron ball hits - goodnight
And as for Gunevald battle in 1410ad - why non armored Poland, Litvians and Tatars defeated Teutonic order whith German heavy armor troops ? We camped for like 3 hours in forest in shadow. They camped on open field under sun for 5 hours in heavy armor to be prepared for our charge. This way they got weakaned by heat and by wearing armor. And we had qantity advantage like 7:2
Enought allready - too long post so much to say.