Modern Civilization Sustainable?

Well, there was also a conscious political strategy on the part of the local powers to multiply the population in many of those places, so…

It is indeed the eternal benefit of having “more” kids. Haven’t got wealth? Sovereignty? Industrial supply lines? Well, have more kids. They’ll pay off eventually - maybe. But the more you have, the better your chances.

No pensions.

Mire kids more opportunity for support less burden on ones family.

Grandparents were also live in babysitters as well or cooking.

Village, church/temple, family. Church doubled as social welfare as well. Was an issue with protestant reformation.
 
Fertility then takes on ethical dimensions. Bringing somebody into what may well be perceived as an abyss might be avoided. Or, one to continue the lineage, then call it a day.
Having kids should always have an ethical dimension. The number of people who have kids just cause they feel like it blows my mind.

Can’t produce economic value - value that consists of real human good delivered to real human people
Funny how an anti-capitalist's main metric for whether someone deserves to exist is economic value produced.
 
Having kids should always have an ethical dimension. The number of people who have kids just cause they feel like it blows my mind.
Well, I completely agree, really.
Funny how an anti-capitalist's main metric for whether someone deserves to exist is economic value produced.
You might call it a trauma response.
 
Is it time for more Ceausescu facts? Of course it is! Communist Romania outlawed abortion, not because of moral qualms (if you knew Ceausescu he had very few) but because he wanted Romania to be a bigger power on the world stage.
 
Well, yeah. My man was interested in winning. Many ways to get there.
 
You might call it a trauma response.
Some self awareness that's good.

May want to rethink dubbing large swaths of the population worthless because of their jobs tho if you want them to join your revolution.

I agree most jobs are not only useless but actively harmful but people gotta eat and in our automated & disconnected world finding ways to actually be useful isn't so easy. Gotta separate the human from their role.

Everyone in trauma response much, perhaps even most, of the time. Lot of people growing up more with tech than with actual attention and guidance, narcissists on a screen giving them more "attention" than their actual caregivers.
 
Some self awareness that's good.

May want to rethink dubbing large swaths of the population worthless because of their jobs tho if you want them to join your revolution.
I think many of them feel it, which is really the worst cut of all. But I agree it’s not a good look. I maybe should have said: in fact they are made to feel worthless being socialized in a system that trains them to feel like losers for not being successful. But maybe that begs a question like “who is feeling like a loser?” But honestly I think it’s something of a scar across the soul of the people who want to believe in the lawns, driveways and picket fences. They are, after all, real.
I agree most jobs are not only useless but actively harmful but people gotta eat and in our automated & disconnected world finding ways to actually be useful isn't so easy. Gotta separate the human from their role.
Well, really I’m more about analyzing what’s going to happen to which sections of society and why. In this case the useless classes are kind of given a blank check to do anything, right?
 
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