Modmodding Q&A Thread

Leoreth said:
Take a guess.
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I'd like a little more engagement than none. You made this thread ostensibly to answer questions on modding, so I think that obliges you to show up and not thumb your nose at people who take an interest. If you don't know, than just give me a bit of information as to why you don't know. What are those lines of code and what functions do they usually perform? I noticed before it crashed that Ethiopia had a score of 10,000, which definitely isn't right.
 
Leoreth said:
Read your logs.
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I've gone over every single log, including PythonDbg. The scary thing is that all of them are identical- all of them have the same BUG errors.
 
You have multiple PythonErr files? I'm referring to the one containing the exceptions from DoC, what do they say?
 
Leoreth said:
Why does that matter?
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You're welcome.
 
Leoreth said:
You have multiple PythonErr files? I'm referring to the one containing the exceptions from DoC, what do they say?
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The PythonErr file is empty. The PythonErr2 file for DoC or DoAH says:
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sys.path = ['..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\email', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\encodings', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\build', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\colourchooser', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\editor', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\floatcanvas', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\masked', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\mixins', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\ogl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py\\tests', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed\\src-images', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM']

sys.modules = {'zipimport': <module 'zipimport' (built-in)>, 'signal': <module 'signal' (built-in)>, '__builtin__': <module '__builtin__' (built-in)>, 'sys': <module 'sys' (built-in)>, '__main__': <module '__main__' (built-in)>, 'exceptions': <module 'exceptions' (built-in)>, 'CvPythonExtensions': <module 'CvPythonExtensions' (built-in)>}

sys.builtin_module_names = ('CvPythonExtensions', '__builtin__', '__main__', '_bisect', '_codecs', '_codecs_cn', '_codecs_hk', '_codecs_iso2022', '_codecs_jp', '_codecs_kr', '_codecs_tw', '_csv', '_heapq', '_hotshot', '_locale', '_multibytecodec', '_random', '_sre', '_subprocess', '_symtable', '_weakref', '_winreg', 'array', 'audioop', 'binascii', 'cPickle', 'cStringIO', 'cmath', 'collections', 'datetime', 'errno', 'exceptions', 'gc', 'imageop', 'imp', 'itertools', 'marshal', 'math', 'md5', 'mmap', 'msvcrt', 'nt', 'operator', 'parser', 'regex', 'rgbimg', 'sha', 'signal', 'strop', 'struct', 'sys', 'thread', 'time', 'xxsubtype', 'zipimport')
load_module CvEventInterface
load_module CvUtil
load_module traceback
load_module CvRFCEventManager
load_module CvEventManager
load_module CvScreensInterface
load_module CvMainInterface
load_module ScreenInput
load_module CvScreenEnums
load_module time
load_module Consts
load_module RFCUtils
load_module PyHelpers
load_module Popup
load_module StoredData
load_module cPickle
load_module BugDll
load_module BugOptions
load_module BugConfig
load_module BugCore
load_module BugUtil
load_module ColorUtil
load_module BugInit
load_module BugPath
load_module BugConfigTracker
load_module BugTypes
load_module xmllib
..\WARLORDS\ASSETS\PYTHON\SYSTEM\xmllib.py:9: DeprecationWarning: The xmllib module is obsolete.  Use xml.sax instead.
09:04:40 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering xml handler BugConfig.RootHandler
09:04:40 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering bug handler BugConfig.BugHandler
09:04:40 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering load handler BugConfig.LoadHandler
09:04:40 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering config handler BugConfig.ConfigHandler
09:04:40 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering arg handler BugConfig.ArgHandler
load_module configobj
load_module __future__
load_module codecs
load_module validate
validate import failed
load_module BugOptionsScreen
load_module BugErrorOptionsTab
load_module BugOptionsTab
load_module BugHelp
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Core
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod MainInterface
load_module CityUtil
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod NJAGC
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Scores
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod CityScreen
load_module ReligionUtil
load_module FontUtil
load_module MonkeyTools
load_module AStarTools
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod PLE
load_module UnitUtil
load_module PlayerUtil
load_module TradeUtil
load_module DiplomacyUtil
load_module AttitudeUtil
load_module GameUtil
load_module Scoreboard
load_module DealUtil
load_module BugUnitPlot
load_module ReminderEventManager
load_module SdToolKit
load_module BugData
load_module autolog
load_module CvModName
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Autolog
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Reminder
load_module CvAppInterface
load_module GGUtil
load_module GPUtil
load_module ProgressBarUtil
load_module PLE
load_module RawYields
load_module CvDomesticAdvisor
load_module CvTechChooser
load_module TechPrefs
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Advisors
load_module CvForeignAdvisor
load_module math
load_module CvExoticForeignAdvisor
load_module IconGrid_BUG
load_module DomPyHelpers
load_module TechTree
load_module FavoriteCivicDetector
load_module CvMilitaryAdvisor
load_module CvFinanceAdvisor
load_module CvReligionScreen
load_module CvCorporationScreen
load_module CvCivicsScreen
load_module CvVictoryScreen
load_module Victory
load_module heapq
load_module TechUtil
load_module GameSetUpCheck
load_module AutoSave
load_module MapFinder
load_module MapFinderStatusScreen
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod MapFinder
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod AutoSave
load_module Buffy
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod BUFFY
load_module CvEspionageAdvisor
load_module SpyUtil
load_module BugScreen
09:04:40 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod BetterEspionage
load_module CvOptionsScreen
load_module CvReplayScreen
load_module CvHallOfFameScreen
load_module CvDanQuayle
load_module CvGameUtils
load_module CvUnVictoryScreen
load_module CvDawnOfMan
load_module CvTechSplashScreen
load_module CvTopCivs
load_module random
load_module CvInfoScreen
load_module CvIntroMovieScreen
load_module CvVictoryMovieScreen
load_module CvWonderMovieScreen
load_module CvEraMovieScreen
load_module CvSpaceShipScreen
load_module SevoScreenEnums
load_module CvWorldBuilderScreen
load_module CvWorldBuilderDiplomacyScreen
load_module CvDebugTools
load_module CvDebugInfoScreen
load_module CvMapGeneratorUtil
load_module CvGFCScreen
load_module CvPopupInterface
load_module CvScreenUtilsInterface
load_module CvOverlayScreenUtils
load_module CvDotMapOverlayScreen
load_module CvStrategyOverlay
09:04:41 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod StrategyOverlay
09:04:41 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod CustDomAdv
09:04:41 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod TechWindow
load_module CityNameManager
load_module Congresses
init-ing world builder screen
load_module CvWBPopups
load_module CvCameraControls
load_module CvAdvisorUtils
load_module CvRFCEventHandler
load_module RiseAndFall
load_module CvTranslator
load_module DynamicCivs
load_module operator
load_module Stability
load_module Barbs
load_module Religions
load_module Resources
load_module UniquePowers
load_module AIWars
load_module Plague
load_module Communications
load_module Companies
load_module BugEventManager
load_module InputUtil
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugUtil - extending BugEventManager.preGameStart instead CvAppInterface
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PreGameStart'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'BeginActivePlayerTurn'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'SwitchHotSeatPlayer'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'LanguageChanged'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'ResolutionChanged'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PythonReloaded'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'unitUpgraded'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'unitCaptured'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatWithdrawal'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatRetreat'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatLogCollateral'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatLogFlanking'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'playerRevolution'
09:04:42 DEBUG: BugInit - game not fully initialized
PY:OnInit
 
That's weird, did you do anything with BUG mod? I can't think of any change to the mod itself that would cause such an error.
 
Nope. I could try and run WinMerge again just to check.
 
I don't remember what I initially had to do to include BUG. You can try renaming your mod to DoC again, maybe it's the mod name setting.
 
No, the same screen comes up if I rename it. I don't think that is the problem now. That means that either there is something in DoC that prevents the mod from flipping out on BUG, there is a C++ error, or there is a Python or XML error that is evading the Log.
 
Since something comes up in the interface message log at least, I would rule out XML and C++ completely. It's likely that BUG is somehow not configured correctly, or that Python chanegs have been made BUG is not expecting.
 
Leoreth said:
Since something comes up in the interface message log at least, I would rule out XML and C++ completely. It's likely that BUG is somehow not configured correctly, or that Python chanegs have been made BUG is not expecting.
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Do you know how to fix that, or should I ask somebody on the BUG forums?

Also, is there any way to set WinMerge to ignore indentation/spacing? There are a few files where our indentations are vastly different (in Python they are identical, oddly enough) and WinMerge flips out because of it, making it very hard for me to find the actual differences.
 
Yeah, the differences in whitespaces are also the bane of my existence whenever I have to merge a large number of files. As long as it's not Python code, they're meaningless though. So you can always copy from one side so at least the conflict is resolved.

I have no clue what this error means. Maybe the people in the BUG forum know more but I don't know if the developers are still active there.
 
No idea, if DoC doesn't have one, why should you suddenly need it?

Maybe it's a good idea to separately install BUG itself in case it needs to install something into your My Games directory.
 
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