Monarch Student^ V - Justinian

[Ignorant Teacher]

Immortal / Normal - 1838AD

Spoiler :

It's a nice map. I've been very peaceful until now, but that's about to change. It's even funny - the thing I didn't want to see happening again was being smashed by more advanced troops so I waited to go to war until I completed the Internet. Now I don't know if I have enough time to win.

Philosophy bulb:

Empire in 900AD:

Stealing techs to help in my Computers beeline:

As I was there...

Goddammit! WK has Computers too... Let's adjust our builds.

A Golden Age could help us complete it faster.

WK was starving Pyongyang to complete it in time.

But...

Which gave us

Current tech situation:

Empire:

Now I want to get Mechanized Infantries (and if possible Mobile Artilleries) because I don't have Aluminum so I'll only have my nice Jet Fighters after running over Korea. (I don't remember if Mobile Arties require Al, I'll check the civilopedia). I want to win Domination, Conquest or Diplomation. Lizzy is trying to have a culture win and has a DP with Asoka, who has a DP with Fred, who has a DP with me.

 

[NihilZero]

@IT:

Spoiler :

That was a nice haul from the internet, most techs I've got from it was nine. It was a close thing there, Wang nearly had it.

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

@IT:

Spoiler :

That was a nice haul from the internet, most techs I've got from it was nine. It was a close thing there, Wang nearly had it.

Spoiler :

Yeah, he almost got it. I had to revolt P'yongyang for 12 turns in a row. Good thing he was the only guy with Computers.

I don't know why, but I've been having trouble keeping up techwise on Immortal. Until the Renaissance it's not so difficult, but after that their era bonuses kick in and I fall behind. I'm trying to learn what the most effective empire set up would be, which improvements, techpath, buildings, etc.

 

[Meatbuster]

@IT:

Spoiler :

Looks like you downloaded a lot of tech. I wish I could do that in real life.

But now you have to stop someone's space launch and Liz's culture victory. Good luck!

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

@IT:

Spoiler :

Looks like you downloaded a lot of tech. I wish I could do that in real life.

But now you have to stop someone's space launch and Liz's culture victory. Good luck!

Spoiler :

Will the cunning leader of Byzantium be able to overcome better prepared AIs? Will there be time to stop three space attempts and one cultural victory? Is Ignorant Teacher eventually going to learn how to play on Immortal?

Learn all that and much more in the next round!

Coming up tonight at about 10pm GMT -3!

 

[Silu]

IT:

Spoiler :

Haha, I rofled when I saw that list of techs. You have some seriously advanced AIs in there. I'd strongly consider shutting all tech in favor of army rushbuy if you're going to go to war (especially since you don't have Aluminum - modern war seriously sucks without it cos of no MAs) since you'll get a ton of techs from Internet anyway.

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

IT:

Spoiler :

Haha, I rofled when I saw that list of techs. You have some seriously advanced AIs in there. I'd strongly consider shutting all tech in favor of army rushbuy if you're going to go to war (especially since you don't have Aluminum - modern war seriously sucks without it cos of no MAs) since you'll get a ton of techs from Internet anyway.

Spoiler :

I will. That's what the Internet is for. What I was thinking was more on the lines of building workshops and watermills everywhere and switch to Police State, Nationalism, State Property and Theocracy. (can't go to Caste because of the UN). I have Jails nearly everywhere and already have the MT. Rushmore. With that and the Hyppodromes, I can eat any War Weariness and defying resolution unhappiness they throw at me.

I only have to get to Robotics first because of the Mech Infantries. Regular Infs + Tanks won't cut it.

Do you think it can work? Or is rushbuy a better choice?

 

[Silu]

Spoiler :

I will. That's what the Internet is for. What I was thinking was more on the lines of building workshops and watermills everywhere and switch to Police State, Nationalism, State Property and Theocracy. (can't go to Caste because of the UN). I have Jails nearly everywhere and already have the MT. Rushmore. With that and the Hyppodromes, I can eat any War Weariness and defying resolution unhappiness they throw at me.

I only have to get to Robotics first because of the Mech Infantries. Regular Infs + Tanks won't cut it.

Do you think it can work? Or is rushbuy a better choice?

Spoiler :

I'd definitely go rushbuy as that's much faster to set up and that way you actually benefit from shutting tech + Internet. No caste is kind of a bummer for workshops, though I don't claim to know the math behind this all, even though I read Iranon's good recap in the US thread like 30 minutes ago Aluminum Co is one possibility btw if you end up having MAs staring at you from the other side of the border and can get the GP.

With Jail+Rushmore Police state isn't needed until MASSIVE WW, quite probably involving fighting a huge SoZ army on their own soil. If you get the ball rolling huge unhappiness doesn't even matter that much.

 

[Murky]

Monarch/Epic 1530 AD

Spoiler :

This game has been fun one. I decided to try a different approach, choosing a whole other tech path from the norm that gets to Guilds faster. By going there quicker you have more time to make good use of the UU before it's countered. Pikes are tough, but Rifles are killer. You want to gain as much land before Rifles as possible.

 

[Grashopa]

@Murky

Spoiler :

1120 guilds then roll I think you've won at this point hehe. You should have posted a screen of your statistics - thats a lot of cities to take without losing many units. Nice.

 

[Murky]

@Murky

Spoiler :

1120 guilds then roll I think you've won at this point hehe. You should have posted a screen of your statistics - thats a lot of cities to take without losing many units. Nice.

Spoiler :

I think the kill ratio for this game is something like 3-1; not counting barbs.

I don't know how to get the kills/lost stats to appear on one screen-shot but the save should be able to show it.

 

[Murky]

Monarch/Epic: 1782

Spoiler :

Another conquest victory via vassalage. The toughest was Gilgamesh. He killed a lot of my units, but I just kept sending in reinforcements. I only had a take 1 city each from Liz and Issy before they capitulated.

Score

The stats screen. Check the save if you want more details.

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

Immortal / Normal - 1918AD. Thank you very, very much Silu and Iranon!

Spoiler :

I had to take a break, but now I think the game is totally winnable. I stayed in US because of your suggestions and decided I had to get Aluminum.

Things started well. No nukes means it's all about tactics, which is what the AIs don't have.

I declared war on Wang Kon, but, during the war, something bad happened. I got a bit scared. Why did he change his capital? Are they actually that smart?

Time to sign a peace treaty (I didn't take the city, no point).

I took five cities, stopped when I got my Aluminum to build Modern Armors and my beloved Jets. If I haven't mentioned this yet, there we go: Air Superiority wars are my favorites!

Dealed with the emergency.

Victory Conditions now. Elizabeth was closer, but I payed Isabella to fight her when I started my war with Wang Kon and they're still at it.

Demographics (#1 in Production. Having the Internet, nothing else matters).

Power.

 

[Meatbuster]

@IT:

Spoiler :

Varnansi has crappy land. Did the AI really change the capital to there just to get a safer launch!? We may never know.

Good job beating up Wang and stopping the inevitable space victory.

 

[Slvynn]

Monarch/Epic 1530 AD

This game has been fun one. I decided to try a different approach, choosing a whole other tech path from the norm that gets to Guilds faster. By going there quicker you have more time to make good use of the UU before it's countered. Pikes are tough, but Rifles are killer. You want to gain as much land before Rifles as possible.

Thats the best way to use Byz UU. GJ

 

[Nothingontv]

I also tried this game, playing on monarch (my first time) and normal speed.

Spoiler :

I settled 1S and started on AG and then AH. It didn't take long to meet the other 3 civs on my continent (especially wang kon), so i decided to build 6 cities fast.

My warrior got some gold out of the first hut but when he got to the second they were hostile and killed him.
After getting a worker out i started on some warriors and one of them got a scout from a hut making it a bit easier to explore.

Nothing much happened after that and i got my 6 cities up and running. My scout however had wandered over to Asoka's capital, and i noticed he only had 2 cities and not much defense. It was a bit late but i decided to do a charriot rush. I left my scout in his capital to check if his defenses didn't get better (they didn't) an quickly build 15-20 chariots.

The moment my chariots left my territory everything went on strike but in the end i got 2 of his cities and razed a 3rd one.

After getting some economy techs i went for guilds and started building cataphracts. Wang Kon lost 3 of his cities before he capitulated.
When i attacked Frederick i already had cannons so he wasn't much of a problem.I took 3 of his cities (Wang Kon got one as well because i forgot to move one of my stacks) and he also capitulated.

In the meantime Gilgamesh had vassalized Elizabeth. They were backwards in tech on that continent so i decided to attack the biggest one (Gilgamesh). I shipped a lot of troops over and quickly took 2 of his cities. Then i suddenly became a member of the AP because of those 2 cities and they decided we needed 10 turns of piece (didn't matter much to me).
After shipping over more troops i took his capital and took 2 more cities before he capitulated. Elizabeth followed right after him.

After that it was just a matter of rebuilding some of Gilgamesh's former territory and shipping even more troops over. I attacked Isabella, took one of her cities, gave it to Elizabeth and was about to take another when she capitulated.

Btw how do i post screenshots in spoilers? I tried adding some but they just showed as small pictures.

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

Immortal / Normal - 1962AD. Lost interest and won't finish.

Spoiler :

After conquering India my production just got too big for the AIs to handle. The pics will tell it all.

 

[Meatbuster]

Sigh. Yeah, looks like you're just stopping one spaceship after another. You will win eventually the question is just when... and the score won't be so hot either.

@nothingontv:
the code is

We usually upload pics to imageshack or photobucket, get the direct links then put it in image tags as you see above. Try to make your pics not so big though, so it doesn't break the layout of CFC pages. That, or put big images in spoilers.

 

[roberteriksson]

Monarch 1000 BC:

Spoiler :

Settled 1SW after moving warrior NW unto a hut and popping a scout. Continued to luck out with the huts as I pop BOTH mining and bronze working the 2 huts after that.

Started spamming settlers and beelined alphabet, traded for all the techs. Gonna have to build a workboat and start exploring. Not sure where to go next, don't have any stone/marble, nor any copper. Started researching iron working hoping to pick up some iron in my wast empire.

Diplo is ok, have a big jungle separating us and plenty of room to expand so I think I will play peacefully for now. Getting some happiness resources hooked up and discovering the other AI should be the priorites for now I think.

 

[Grashopa]

@roberteriksson

Spoiler :

Why Nicara on the plains hill? If you do a quick count of food I think you have a max 7 hammers with a farm on the 1 flood plain. The city on the south coast I believe can work all its hills without the flood plain, so Nicara 1E grabbing both flood plains means the most hammers.

And counting off the hammers and seeing as I have horse. I'd be thinking of letting the other AIs clear the jungle for me

Also I'd have settled between the cows and wheat before settling Adrianople over there. Thats a lot of food to grow quickly and run cottages around the river. Faster return on investment.