Most Important Battle in History

[Dreadnought]

What do you think was the most important battle in history?

For example:

Stalingrad: If the Russians hadn't stopped the Germans, what would have happened?

Second choice: Tours: If the French hadn't stopped the Muslims, then Europe and the Americas would be all Islamic (!!!).

Bronze goes to: Midway: US destroyed much of the Japenese fleet there

 

[Vasileius]

Salamis ,Stalingrand,Poitiers ...

 

[storealex]

Battle of Evermore

 

[emzie]

Nothing from World War II. Though it was Kursk that signaled the end for Germany (not Stalingrad), Germany would have never been able to -- as we say now -- win the peace. In the end, Germany would have lost, even if Moscow had been captured.

For the Christian world, stopping the Muslim advances at: Tours (783) and Vienna (1683)

Considering the influence the UK has had on the world, Hastings (1066) should probally be thrown into the mix too.

 

[silver 2039]

The Battle of Kalinga for without it Bhuddisim would likely not have gone to China, Japan, Korea, and SEA. And it may not even exist as a religon today.

 

[Longasc]

I think such absolute measures for historical battles are worthless.

For the Aztecs:

1.) Subiugation of the Toltecs in 1370-1400
2.) The arrival of Cortez in 1502


I think they would have become a predominant superpower if the Spanish would not have stopped them. Europe might have become a South American colony.

Uh. Some think there were more important historical events? I must agree, and disagree at the same time...

Just wanted to question the sense of "the most, the best, the longest" threads in history forums.

 

[Longasc]

BTW, soon you can change history in Rome: Total War, I see you are already looking forward to it...^^

 

[Dreadnought]

@longasc: lol

anyway...what was the battle of evermore?

 

[Riesstiu IV]

I've heard of "Secret of Evermore"... it's some SNES RPG.

 

[JohnRM]

Pearl Harbor.

Without that battle, the United States does not enter World War II and Germany probably goes on to develop the first nuclear weapon.

 

[pawpaw]

led zepplin song

 

[PresidentMarcos]

The first battle ever...when an ambitious man from a West Asian hill town gathered his friends together and raided his neighbors, enslaving the men, and stealing the women and sheep. It started it all.

 

[Xen]

Not a specific battles, but a fll campaign; what is it?

the incursion sof the sea peoples in the med sea in the early iron/late bronze age

 

[Stefan Haertel]

Montsegur, Balaclava and Paschendale of course

 

[Adler17]

The more back in thistory the altering of a certain battle would change the world dramatically. So there is no ONE most important battle.

Adler

 

[Dreadnought]

Fine then. most important campaign or war or whatever

 

[Atlas14]

Battle of Lepanto and Hakata Bay. Lepanto because the defeat of the Turkish navy meant no Turkish control over the Mediterranean sea for the next couple of centuries or possibly even longer. The Europeans in the 15th and 16th Century had a mind-set that the Turks were close to being "unbeatable", but Lepanto showed their weakness. Not to mention the impact it had on the 'victory' for Christianity vs. Islam. The Papal support for this battle was a plus to Christian Rulers.

Hakata Bay because if the Mongolian force had successfully landed and taken advantage of the weak Japanese force at Hakata Bay, then Japan would have been controlled by the Mongols for quite a while. WWII could have had a different warfare style to it if the Mongols had won at Hakata Bay. The Japanese's 'Divine-Wind' or Kamikazee methods would not have been present in WWII (possibly) had the Mongols been successful at this particular battle.

 

[Bugfatty300]

The Japanese's 'Divine-Wind' or Kamikazee methods would not have been present in WWII (possibly) had the Mongols been successful at this particular battle.

The term "divine wind" was given to suicide attacks for propaganda effect. My point? The destruction the Mongolian fleet by a typhoon really didn't have anything to do with the Japanese idea to use suicide bombers. That’s just what they named the suicide attacks it after. The use of ‘Kamikazes’ would most certainly have been around, just under a different name.

 

[Atlas14]

The term "divine wind" was given to suicide attacks for propaganda effect. My point? The destruction the Mongolian fleet by a typhoon really didn't have anything to do with the Japanese idea to use suicide bombers. That’s just what they named the suicide attacks it after. The use of ‘Kamikazes’ would most certainly have been around, just under a different name.

You're right. I don't know what I was thinking.

 

[blindside]

Most important battle in history was the Battle of Ain Jalut where the Mongols suffered their first major defeat at the hands of another horse people. Actually, as it has been stated, one can not say that a particular battle was more significant than another but I find this battle fascinating anyway. Some say the battle was rather insignificant because the Mongols were already at their limits, others say the battle saved the Near East and Europe from the Mongols. Some historians believe that the Egyptian army (consisting of Mamelukes and Egyptians) was vastly greater than that of the Mongols but more recent findings suggest the size of both armies was almost even. The Mamelukes defeated the Mongols in an equal battle and pretty much ended the dominion of horse people throughout the world. Timur would rise up a few centuries later but his reign of terror was far too brief to be compared to what the Sycthians/Huns/Turks/Mongols had done in the previous centuries.