[GS] Most OP Civ for GS

[Siptah]

50-100 turns safety from no surprise war? Are you talking standard speed? We have been playing different games then. I get DOWed a formal war (joint war is a formal war) before that on epic in most of my games. I think that Firaxis wants Canada to be immune to attacks in single player for some time, so they won‘t program a specific AI behavior when facing Canada. However, something like builder/settler/settler is still not a sensible build order. I‘ll probably just start builder/slinger/slinger/slinger/warrior just as with any other civ. Only going to change if I have no barb camp nearby (which I won‘t know before the first slinger is out ).

As to the AI declaring formal wars alone early, they rarely do in my games. In the later game they use the colonial CB, however.

 

[Disgustipated]

Not sure where this 50 turns is coming from. In Potato's game he was denounced like 3 turns after meeting Hungary. Though they never attacked because he seemed to be getting positive modifiers from Hungary's second agenda (small army it appeared).

Though I will say the AI has a problem with formal wars and cassus beli in general, so Canada may indeed be safe. But that's only due to bad ai programming.

 

[MarigoldRan]

Exactly. So you're safe.

The only risk the AI ever poses is that early warrior rush. Once you get through that, it's clear sailing.

Builder settler builder settler is going to be my go to Canadian build. Just think: if you can get a second city out by the time most people will be spamming out slingers or warriors, that's a huge edge.

 

[Karmah]

Seeing as the bonus are diverse and special all in their own way ,I expect MP players to find all kind of cheezy/creative strats.

 

[Onii-chan]

I like how so many people are convinced that they've figured out the most OP civ based on a certain play style already. Not only has it always been hard to compare stuff like this head-to-head since different civs have completely different types of strengths, but more importantly... the game isn't even released yet so all of this is nothing but speculation

Also it depends a lot on how try-hard you like to play civ. It's not a secret that the "best" way to play the game is by just conquering as much as possible and snowball from there, but quite frankly I think that's a pretty boring way to play so I'm not going to automatically label all the warmongering civs as "best" just because of that. Civ is too complex of a game to look at that way. How strong a civ is depends on the map, the play style, if it's single or multi player, if they're consistently strong or just occasionally etc. Too many variables


But well to add something I guess, Maori sounds like they have the best bonuses in theory but they seem quite volatile since it probably depends a lot on what kind of start you get. Inca could be very strong but depends on how many mountains they get. Mali, Sweden and Phoenicia could all be very strong in theory but it's a bit hard to say exactly how good they are without trying them for real

 

[Ondolindë]

At the end, after reading all six pages, it all boils down to who is in the driver’s seat, it sound like. If one is skilled and experienced enough with the Civ, mechanics and city placement on the map, I guess that Civ becomes OP, even with Canada it seems as some of you have said. I played oh, poor Georgia on deity once and had a blast winning a religious victory. It was tough, but I certainly don’t think Georgia is bad anymore. I want to play them after GS is released again. The map helped me tons, so a bit of luck of the draw is always helpful too. So whichever Civ we choose first or after, it’s up to us to make it happen. That’s one reason why Multiplayer is starting to sound more appealing to me.

 

[Canadian Bluebeer]

I don't think thats how most people are going to play Canada

Canadians will.

BTW, the politicians up here don't keep their hands in their own pockets, they keep them in OURS.

We have 2 seasons as well. Winter (duh), and Construction.

The most OP depends on a lot of factors, have to see if the AI is still pretty much brain ded.
Another thing is game speed. default vs marathon. It DOES make a difference.

 

[BarbarianHunter]

...something like builder/settler/settler is still not a sensible build order.

I do that all the time and play mostly on deity. In fact, if I had to codify a standard operating procedure, that'd be it. I buy slingers while I can, then upgrade. Then again I also tend to DOW any AI I meet shortly after relieving them of all their gold so I may be able to purchase more slingers than not.

 

[Sostratus]

I like how so many people are convinced that they've figured out the most OP civ based on a certain play style already

Fascinating anthropology here- the subspecies H. Sapiens Fanaticus appear to be merely bioreactors that convert food+water into rampant speculation about Civ6