Yeeek
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What Navy outside France are equipped with Exocets?
Most powerful Navy's in the world today?
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The Exocet is currently in service with Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Cyprus, Ecuador, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Indonesia, Iraq, Turkey, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Peru, Pakistan, Qatar, South Africa, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay and Venezuela. It also served with the Royal Navy until the last Exocet armed surface vessel was decommissioned in 2002.
It's incredible how you can give the impression to be smart and knowledgable with some copy and paste from a random google search.
Yeeek
Seizing The Day
That many? O.o
Hugh, that's lots of "ship killer" around the globe.
Though, my point was, naval warfare has changed drastically since the use of missiles. WW2 naval battles were about dive bombers, torpedoes, lucky hits. Today, you could only need a single hit with a missile to sunk a warship.
Hugh, that's lots of "ship killer" around the globe.
Though, my point was, naval warfare has changed drastically since the use of missiles. WW2 naval battles were about dive bombers, torpedoes, lucky hits. Today, you could only need a single hit with a missile to sunk a warship.
Which law of physics comes into play here? Are you getting into some serious naval architecture and checking out planing speeds?
Anyway, I just thought I'd throw this in here:
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
Is that ship doing a handbrake turn?
Navys adapt. Today, a phalanx system can destroy the missile so your single hit is not so easy to get. While you cannot do much to stop a shell, except hope your armor is big enough
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
Wouldn't catch the Royal Navy carrying out reckless manouvres like that. What, What. We'd spill our tea.Probably checking to make sure everything is secured for sea.
Igloo, you were a former sailor, weren't you? I'm interested by your comments on the topic.
Did you give your opinion and I missed it because of the evil avatar switch?
Did you give your opinion and I missed it because of the evil avatar switch?
Naw, I've largely agreed with what most people have said.
That said, "most powerful navy" for what strategic mission? Denial of sea lines of communication, protection of them, or power projection? For the first (which the Soviets were concentrating on most, and the German strategy in WWII) you need a large number of submarines and ideally some long-range air power. For protection/use of the sea lanes (which implicitly includes denying it to the enemy), you need large numbers of utilitarian escorts with solid ASW/AAW capabilities. For power projection missions you need significant amphibious capability and offshore airpower. The US is first (to varying degrees) on all three of these sure, but (for example) the Russians are probably second on sealane denial, Japanese are probably second on SLOC defense, the French or British take second in power projection.
Let me expand on what I said earlier... Japan, and China are IMHO really a toss-up. Japan's navy is larger, and more modern, but China has the new Kilo class submarines which could tear up virtually any naval force pretty badly. When we look at submarine forces the picture clears up even more
USA-50~Los Angelas class, 3 Sea Wolf, and several new Virginia class.
Russia-10~Vanguard class, 4~Sierra class, 10-15 Akula class, 5-10 Oscar II class, and a bunch of Kilo class.
France, and the UK would come in rather far behind these two, but still far ahead of China which has like 7 Han class, 8 Kilo class, 10+ Song class, and 1-2 SSN92 class.
While the new American subs are better than Russian ones Russias numerical, superiorit would certainly outclass both France, and the UK. Remember submarines can easily knock out things like carriers.
USA-50~Los Angelas class, 3 Sea Wolf, and several new Virginia class.
Russia-10~Vanguard class, 4~Sierra class, 10-15 Akula class, 5-10 Oscar II class, and a bunch of Kilo class.
France, and the UK would come in rather far behind these two, but still far ahead of China which has like 7 Han class, 8 Kilo class, 10+ Song class, and 1-2 SSN92 class.
While the new American subs are better than Russian ones Russias numerical, superiorit would certainly outclass both France, and the UK. Remember submarines can easily knock out things like carriers.
"Easily"? No.
Carriers (when supported by escorts) are far more vulnerable to submarines than to anything else, but they're not meat on the table for submarines, either.
Desmond Hawkins
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I absolutely said nothing of the sort. I said that it wouldn't necessarily occur at maximum range. This doesn't imply that it will occur at minimum range. And I certainly never said that long-range missiles were irrelevant. In fact, I said you had a valid point!
I was disregarding the Chinese fighters from the 50s and 60s, and I also was doubting that China could bring every one of its fighters to fore in an offensive operation against Japan, while I bet the Japanese could bring them all to defend.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
I think within the next 10-20 years the UK may very well move up to 2nd in that list.
With a new generation of nuclear subs mooted and also a vast overhall in surface ships including a couple of 'super carriers' With a proposed specification of 65,000 tonnes displacement each, these will probably be the most modern in the world (if not the largest, a bit smaller than USA super carriers)...
Nope, the current Nimitz class are 100K tons. The Queen Elizabeth will still be smaller, around the size of a Forrestal class.
steveedster
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catch u on the flip scythe
I think I heard (from Stephen Fry, on QI) that the fourth largest navy in the world is owned by Disney. 
Fleet, maybe, but that is not the same thing.
I personally watched the Swiss Navy in action. I have to say I doubt there is any other Navy on this earth that could touch them.
MobBoss
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Its because of their fancy watches and pocket knives....darn them!
