MRA throws entitled hissy fit, commits mass murder

[Kyriakos]

Perhaps he had a Histrionic personality disorder?

You know, the above text maybe reeds a bit 'too insane' to be that genuine (?).

I mean that is the first time i heard of a killer/psychopath etc claim that he thought he would win a ticket cause the winner was from the same state of 38 million people. Ok, insanity is one thing, but i now am more wary of this story cause it seems a bit fishy.

Other stuff seem at least crudely constructed-like, eg "i had a tantrum" (???).

 

[gay_Aleks]

You know, the above text maybe reeds a bit 'too insane' to be that genuine (?).

I mean that is the first time i heard of a killer/psychopath etc claim that he thought he would win a ticket cause the winner was from the same state of 38 million people. Ok, insanity is one thing, but i now am more wary of this story cause it seems a bit fishy.

So these 5 dead people are actually actors put up by the NSA to see just how gullible we are? And that there was something really wrong about the towers falling down during 9/11?

Come on, there are 7 billion people out there, the chances there to be someone absolutely insane are equal to going to the grocery store. In fact, they're higher.

 

[Kyriakos]

So these 5 dead people are actually actors put up by the NSA to see just how gullible we are? And that there was something really wrong about the towers falling down during 9/11?

Come on, there are 7 billion people out there, the chances there to be someone absolutely insane are equal to going to the grocery store. In fact, they're higher.

Uh not sure where you got the above, but i am commenting on the words attributed to this killer. They seem fake/suspect.
Maybe he was just thinking that way, but the above text seemed very peculiar. It is one thing to be a murderer and traumatised/mad etc, and another to have entirely non-logical thinking on basic stuff like a lottery ticket and a 1/38 million chance. The first does not really make the second that likely by itself.

 

[Oruc]

You know, the above text maybe reeds a bit 'too insane' to be that genuine (?).

I mean that is the first time i heard of a killer/psychopath etc claim that he thought he would win a ticket cause the winner was from the same state of 38 million people. Ok, insanity is one thing, but i now am more wary of this story cause it seems a bit fishy.

Other stuff seem at least crudely constructed-like, eg "i had a tantrum" (???).

there's 140 pages of this crap, it sprung up pretty fast if it's made up. Some of the excerpts people keep posting match up (I'm not reading the whole thing), like him being questioned by the police after his parents contacted them about his youtube videos.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Kyriakos, if you aren't aware, there's plenty of insane people. You think that this might be fake, because it seems too insane. Which seems ridiculous, and the proof can be easily seen by a broad walk among Youtube.

EDIT: Finally understood what you mean - you're thinking it's manufactured by the media to make attention or something. Considering the issue is already hot, that seems unnecessary.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

You know, the above text maybe reeds a bit 'too insane' to be that genuine (?).

I mean that is the first time i heard of a killer/psychopath etc claim that he thought he would win a ticket cause the winner was from the same state of 38 million people. Ok, insanity is one thing, but i now am more wary of this story cause it seems a bit fishy.

Other stuff seem at least crudely constructed-like, eg "i had a tantrum" (???).

Children have an extremely self-centered view of reality. The world is about them and they deserve what they want. Logic and fairness between him and other people might not be an issue for him and given that he had a diagnose, he might have had some other psychiatric issues. I'm not sure why you expect it to be a author quality text, though?

 

[timtofly]

Maybe it is the 1% club who are lashing out, because their money does not do for them what they think it should?

 

[shadowplay]

The man was clearly delusional. In his video (I watched all of them from his youTube channel - very disturbing stuff) he rails against spoiled rich kids whilst sitting the driver's seat of his own BMW, completely oblivious to the fact that he is one himself.

Also, because he had asperger's syndrome does not mean he wasn't mentally ill - while you're correct that autism isn't a mental illness, the two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Anyone who's diagnosed for Aspenger's is also a rich entitled kid. Statistics shows this.

 

[NovaKart]

You know, the above text maybe reeds a bit 'too insane' to be that genuine (?).

I mean that is the first time i heard of a killer/psychopath etc claim that he thought he would win a ticket cause the winner was from the same state of 38 million people. Ok, insanity is one thing, but i now am more wary of this story cause it seems a bit fishy.

Other stuff seem at least crudely constructed-like, eg "i had a tantrum" (???).

A couple things I find strange from that quote, though I don't doubt it's genuine -

1. He got that drunk off of one bottle of wine? I guess if he's not a habitual drinker it's not that unlikely, but still...

2. Is it really that hard to find someone? Maybe I'm just lucky being gay but still....

I always say the key to more sex is to lower your standards.

 

[timtofly]

Anyone who's diagnosed for Aspenger's is also a rich entitled kid. Statistics shows this.

Statistics does not rule out that it is just a rich and entitled kid who is diagnosed, but they may be the only one's with the means or fortitude to check. Unless a parent is in the medical profession, it may not even be noticed or dealt with even by professionals in a public school setting.

 

[classical_hero]

What's your point? Is it related to this mass murder?

Communism and mass murder go hand in hand.

The perp. is guilty of very confused thinking, imo. How did he imagine that killing people would help him with his sexual frustration?

Or with anything else, come to that.

Another thing, just because we don't agree with your analysis of this horrific murder doesn't mean we are trivializing it.

I think you should be ashamed that you're using six murders to support a political point. Disgusting.

These three above posts are excellent. What happened was a tragedy and the first thing the OP says it totally political for the sake of making a soapbox statement

 

[Gori the Grey]

I suspect the passage Oruc cited is a parody, mocking the kind of entitlement thinking that this killer exhibited, rather than a quotation from his diary/manifesto.

 

[Oruc]

I suspect the passage Oruc cited is a parody, mocking the kind of entitlement thinking that this killer exhibited, rather than a quotation from his diary/manifesto.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/226015726/Elliot-Rodger-Manifesto

Well I skimmed it and found which page that quote was taken from 108.
I suppose the whole thing could be faked but 140 pages seems like a awful lot of trouble to go too and put it all together pretty quick.

 

[Gori the Grey]

No, if that's where you found it, then I suspect it's real. I didn't think the whole thing was up yet.

 

[Kyriakos]

Children have an extremely self-centered view of reality. The world is about them and they deserve what they want. Logic and fairness between him and other people might not be an issue for him and given that he had a diagnose, he might have had some other psychiatric issues. I'm not sure why you expect it to be a author quality text, though?

Fair enough, i suppose some may indeed be "too insane" anyway, and the autism parameter would help that, although i thought the premise of this thread was that autism is not a mental illness anyway and MRA makes people kill



(in other words: maybe he did indeed write all that stuff, i don't know. It just sounded way too much like what someone would just make up to "sound insane". I do agree that sometimes X is just X and that is all, but i am sure we will learn more of the texts/story in the following days)..

 

[Oruc]

It's a shame the counsellors didn't pick up on his mental state? I can only assume it's quite difficult of course.

 

[Kyriakos]

^I read before that his father is the 'deputy director' of that hunger games movie(s).

 

[Borachio]

It's because of the possibility of this kind disappointment that I never buy lottery tickets.

I've promised myself that one day I will buy one. When, if ever, I feel lucky enough to win.

And if I don't win I shall feel cheated and most definitely will demand my money back.

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

The essence of the boy's premeditation is the classic [insert ideology] sentimentality: he thinks of himself as supremely virtuous and kind, and is outraged that [insert outcome #1] did not happen, but rather [insert outcome #2] happened instead. The word used is "injustice." Because of this, he has never had [insert outcome #1], and he blames this on [insert group].

Following this template, let us generalize and trivialize every ideology based on the misdeeds of its outliers.

And I'd also acknowledge other's opinion that mental illness and AS/Autism are not mutually exclusive. They can occur concurrently.

You're certainly allowed to argue a point or disagree with others, I'm just not sure what it is exactly you're wishing to discuss, and am seeking to find out what that is. It seems as if the responses you've received are not what you were looking for, but then I'm confused as to what you are looking for.

My impression is that he wants people to agree with him.