Multiple leaders confirmed? [Source: Reddit] [Hoax]

[DeutschDachs]

Really hope it's true, it would be great to keep hope alive for Louis XIV or Nzinga for Kongo

 

[Aukhenaten]

What if the Aztecs aren't a pre-order bonus... but Monty is? I'd say the chances are slim, but it would make some sense as far as pre-order funny business goes. Reveal Monty as an initiative to pre-order, get people to assume that's the only way to get the Aztecs, then end up bundling them into the base game anyway but with a different leader.

 

[DeutschDachs]

What if the Aztecs aren't a pre-order bonus... but Monty is? I'd say the chances are slim, but it would make some sense as far as pre-order funny business goes. Reveal Monty as an initiative to pre-order, get people to assume that's the only way to get the Aztecs, then end up bundling them into the base game anyway but with a different leader.

Ummm no. They already listed off the bonuses that come in the pack and it includes the Aztecs

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

What if the Aztecs aren't a pre-order bonus... but Monty is? I'd say the chances are slim, but it would make some sense as far as pre-order funny business goes. Reveal Monty as an initiative to pre-order, get people to assume that's the only way to get the Aztecs, then end up bundling them into the base game anyway but with a different leader.

Who else would lead Aztecs?

And I'm pretty sure the pre-order comes with Aztecs, Montezuma, All Montezuma's UU and UB as well as the Wonder.

 

[retrocity5]

They did for 2 and 4, so it's not unbelievable they'd do it for 6 as well.

That is true, Civ II had a male and female. Meanwhile Civ IV had up to three per nation and could be male or female.

 

[DJ_Tanner]

What if the Aztecs aren't a pre-order bonus... but Monty is? I'd say the chances are slim, but it would make some sense as far as pre-order funny business goes. Reveal Monty as an initiative to pre-order, get people to assume that's the only way to get the Aztecs, then end up bundling them into the base game anyway but with a different leader.

They technically aren't a preorder bonus and they ARE in the base game. They are just unlocked at day 1 if you preorder, otherwise they unlock on day 90. But they are still a part of every base game.

 

[Aukhenaten]

Ummm no. They already listed off the bonuses that come in the pack and it includes the Aztecs

But because multiple leaders are not confirmed, I argue that it may be intentional deception which implies the only way you'll get the Aztecs on day one is if you pre-order, even if that's not true. It's still a valid point against my little hypothesis, but forgive me for not trusting what game devs say up front when we don't have all the answers.

Who else would lead Aztecs?

Nezahualpilli or Acamapichtli would be interesting choices.

They technically aren't a preorder bonus and they ARE in the base game. They are just unlocked at day 1 if you preorder, otherwise they unlock on day 90. But they are still a part of every base game.

I should clarify what I mean. Yes, the Aztecs are technically in the base game from the start, just locked, but I'm not sure if that counts as being one of the 18 base game civs. I would find it odd if they said that the base game was going to have 18 civilizations and then lock one away for three months. It would look bad on their part, so I postulate that the Aztecs are the 19th civ in the game, so if you pre-order, you'd get 18+1. This is assuming that we don't get an Aztec leader aside from Montezuma I in that 18 civ list.

 

[Growth]

So the question is, if indeed they plan on multiple leaders, when do you guys think they'll just have to tell us?

 

[ehecatzin]

Nezahualpilli or Acamapichtli would be interesting choices.

I'd rather they go with Nezahualpilli's old man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nezahualcoyotl

I'm willing to believe it's real. To me it makes more sense to leave the development of full fledged civs for expansions and then sell extra leaders as DLC (probably along with a scenario or map pack). That way they are also entirely optional.

 

[Ryika]

But because multiple leaders are not confirmed, I argue that it may be intentional deception which implies the only way you'll get the Aztecs on day one is if you pre-order, even if that's not true. It's still a valid point against my little hypothesis, but forgive me for not trusting what game devs say up front when we don't have all the answers.

I highly doubt Firaxis would be that silly - that'd basically be a middle-finger to those who actually pre-ordered because of the Aztecs.

And completely unnecessarily, too - they could instead have put all Aztec Leaders into the Pre-Order pack and bundled the reveal of the pre-order bonus with the reveal that the game comes with multiple leaders per Civ for additional hype.

 

[w.s.burroughs]

Propably a hoax.

The image is framed and cropped so we can't see the face of the leader (I wonder why...). We know very little about a source of the leak (mysterious friend from Germany). I will not believe it untill I'll see a full picture.

 

[AriochIV]

So the question is, if indeed they plan on multiple leaders, when do you guys think they'll just have to tell us?

This is, I think, the chief argument against it being real: I have a hard time imagining why they would have kept such a key (and oft-requested) feature a secret.

 

[Psychotronics]

This is, I think, the chief argument against it being real: I have a hard time imagining why they would have kept such a key (and oft-requested) feature a secret.

At the very latest, they would reveal this after revealing every civ, for maximum hype. I agree this sounds weird, though.

 

[ehecatzin]

This is, I think, the chief argument against it being real: I have a hard time imagining why they would have kept such a key (and oft-requested) feature a secret.

Not if extra leaders are DLC and not part of the base game. Imagine how everybody would react to them showcasing DLC leaders before they even show all of the vanilla civs. People are already mad and confused at the Aztec thingy imagine the extra leaders.

I think it would also explain why they have been extra silent about what's on the deluxe edition.

My guess is that they are going to keep on showcasing all of the vanilla civs, after that they'll drop the bomb on whatever the deluxe edition has, and Henry VIII will be there as an extra leader.

And after launch we'll get more DLC's focusing on extra leaders as opposed to new civs.

but that's my guess.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

I think it would also explain why they have been extra silent about what's on the deluxe edition.

Yes, you have something here

 

[Aukhenaten]

This is, I think, the chief argument against it being real: I have a hard time imagining why they would have kept such a key (and oft-requested) feature a secret.

The only reason I can think of is if they don't have the multiple leaders at launch. There's a stigma against announcing DLC before a game even releases and they might end up with a horde of people protesting the game due to the perceived slight.

I'm still on the fence about Henry VIII being real, though. It's one of those strange leaks which gives way more questions than answers.

 

[ehecatzin]

Yes, you have something here

It would also be a win/win situation for Firaxis TBH, Alexander is not the leader of Greece? ooh but with this "Conquer Persia" scenario you can play as Alexander... Napoleon not the French leader? look what I have here, a Napoleonic Wars DLC.

Prepare your wallets people.

 

[Neirai]

It would also be a win/win situation for Firaxis TBH, Alexander is not the leader of Greece? ooh but with this "Conquer Persia" scenario you can play as Alexander... Napoleon not the French leader? look what I have here, a Napoleonic Wars DLC.

Prepare your wallets people.

Either way, we all win (if we have money.)

 

[DeutschDachs]

It would also be a win/win situation for Firaxis TBH, Alexander is not the leader of Greece? ooh but with this "Conquer Persia" scenario you can play as Alexander... Napoleon not the French leader? look what I have here, a Napoleonic Wars DLC.

Prepare your wallets people.

They've got me hooked

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Maybe they are already making a "wars of religion scenario" with Sweden as a dlc civ and Henry VIII as an dlc leader. Maybe one of the delux edition dlc.